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IMA SOL MAN

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I have said this before the dumbest people I have met are the ones who think there so very intelligent lol.
The more I study and learn, the more convinced I become of how ignorant I am of things. There is simply an infinity of knowledge that is out there. We are fortunate that a portion of it is available at our fingertips with the internet--no need to pay out huge sums of money to go to some fancy college. IMO, brick and mortar schools are largely obsolete now.
 

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Some of them, it is not their fault--they were born stupid. Too many pregnant women smoking, drinking, taking drugs, not getting proper nutrition--it all has consequences. Now others, it can be self-inflicted, but you have to question their intelligence for actions that reduce their brain cells on purpose.
Foetal Alcohol Syndrome manifests in many different ways for many unfortunate newborns, it's a life sentence of difficulties 😒
 

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YEP, i agree, people are dumb, an individual may be smart but people as a collective are stupid. Facts of life, girls always fall for wrong guy no matter what. people keep voting for the same people, even thou they see and experience a chaos and destruction these people cause, over and over again.
 
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With regard to grandpa's fourth grade education, vis-a-vis a contemporary high school curriculum, I have several textbooks from my grandparents' elementary and high school years (early 1900's), and one textbook dated 1888, used by my great grandfather during his eighth grade year (his final year of formal classroom education). They are orders of magnitude more comprehensive and complex than today's educational Pablum, and the degree of understanding and sophistication in reasoning that students in the 1880's through early 1900's were expected to demonstrate is on a par with college and grad school reasoning today. There may not have been as many facts that students of that era were expected to learn (biology and chemistry were pretty basic actually), but the subtlety in logical and moral reasoning that was expected of them in other subjects, as evidenced by the exercises and test questions posed in those old textbooks, is astonishing to me. All of these folks are gone now, but they still have my respect.
 

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It's amazing to think what generations before knew that we don't, and what they saw the advent of.

And now kids have the world at their fingertips, but their fingertips are searching tik tok or youtube while they walk around oblivious to everything with their head in their phone.

"Every facet, every department of your mind, is to be programmed by you. And unless you assume your rightful responsibility, and begin to program your own mind, the world will program it for you." - Jack Kornfield
 

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I think people are putting way too much thought into cursive no longer being taught in schools anymore. Why would it be, it's just not needed anymore. Think about how all of our ancestors ages ago wrote. I guarantee none of us could write like they did and they'd probably think that's a big deal while we won't. As far as not being able to read my Grandparents' writing, well both of my Grandfathers were engineers and wrote in all caps. No matter how sloppy their handwriting became, it was still legible by anyone. Hmm....

While I myself don't have kids, my 7 year old nephew and 11 year old niece wouldn't be able to read their Grandparents' cursive letters from they wrote each other, they certainly can teach their Grandparents' a thing or two (or three) about computers. That's the world we live in now. Things have evolved. The things these kids do on their phones and computers at a very young age are so much more advanced than the stuff that took weeks for me to learn in computer classes throughout my school days. So no, they may not be smart in all the ways older people may think is still important, but they're smart as hell in ways that are currently important.
 

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Like so many tasks, it is a matter of priorities. True we keep piling paperwork (computer forms actually) and requirements on educators. Decisions have to be made how instructional time is spent. I have been supporting teachers in class for more than 20 years, mostly special education.

The sneer crowd will squawk at how some time in school is spent on Social Emotional Learning (SEL) but the fact is, depression, breakdown in healthy social skills, and self destructive behaviors are real. Leadership is trying to do something about it.

The latest push I have seen is wanting educators to spend time bringing up the idea that kids need to think about what career they might want to pursue, with the emphasis on actively exploring that field in more detail.

For quite a while now there has been the idea that students need to be shown how to learn; how to access and discern information and draw inferences.

Also there has been sustained movement to present assignments much like a business would face an objective, with a focus on group cooperation with an extended (days or weeks) project. (Project Based Learning-PBL)

The reality is, priorities like fundamental basics need to be handled as well as 'grade level' curriculum which has increased in content over the years. Kindergarten in the nineteen sixties was a lot more carefree than it is today, for the most part.

One can find sophisticated examples of turn of the 19th Century written skills but it is guaranteed the vast majority did not master them; there was a lot of rote exercises. And similar to today, training kids to sit still and behave themselves.

Cursive instruction can easily be taught at home by those who value that skill. As much as I pressed for that ability in school in the past, there are much more critical concepts and skills required by the education machine, and today's world. One opinion.
 

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I think people are putting way too much thought into cursive no longer being taught in schools anymore. Why would it be, it's just not needed anymore. Think about how all of our ancestors ages ago wrote. I guarantee none of us could write like they did and they'd probably think that's a big deal while we won't. As far as not being able to read my Grandparents' writing, well both of my Grandfathers were engineers and wrote in all caps. No matter how sloppy their handwriting became, it was still legible by anyone. Hmm....

While I myself don't have kids, my 7 year old nephew and 11 year old niece wouldn't be able to read their Grandparents' cursive letters from they wrote each other, they certainly can teach their Grandparents' a thing or two (or three) about computers. That's the world we live in now. Things have evolved. The things these kids do on their phones and computers at a very young age are so much more advanced than the stuff that took weeks for me to learn in computer classes throughout my school days. So no, they may not be smart in all the ways older people may think is still important, but they're smart as hell in ways that are currently important.
I wouldn't say things have evolved, but they have changed, drastically changed, and some of it for the worse, not the better.

I kind of think US society peaked in the 1950's, and has been sliding downhill ever since. Your opinion may vary. But if you look at how folks behaved, the morals and customs have changed for the worse, I think. Folks used to go to church on Sunday, or whatever their faith's holy day was, and learned how to think right, and do right. People would smile, and say "How do you do?" and shake hands when they met. They would hold a door for each other, stand when a woman came into the room, and offer her a chair. They would open the car door for her, and help her in and out of the car. They would watch their language around women and children, takes their hats off when inside, tip their hat to a lady, and put the hat over their heart for the National Anthem, Pledge of Allegiance, or the passing of a funeral procession.

It grieves me, what has happened to my nation. It has gone to hell. Everything is upside down and backward and inside out, now. What was right before is now wrong, and what was wrong before is now right. Our national heroes are now evil villains, and our founding fathers are despicable racists whose memory must be expunged from our history.

If we don't change things soon, this nation is going away forever, and that would be unthinkable to me.
 

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I wouldn't say things have evolved, but they have changed, drastically changed, and some of it for the worse, not the better.

I kind of think US society peaked in the 1950's, and has been sliding downhill ever since. Your opinion may vary. But if you look at how folks behaved, the morals and customs have changed for the worse, I think. Folks used to go to church on Sunday, or whatever their faith's holy day was, and learned how to think right, and do right. People would smile, and say "How do you do?" and shake hands when they met. They would hold a door for each other, stand when a woman came into the room, and offer her a chair. They would open the car door for her, and help her in and out of the car. They would watch their language around women and children, takes their hats off when inside, tip their hat to a lady, and put the hat over their heart for the National Anthem, Pledge of Allegiance, or the passing of a funeral procession.

It grieves me, what has happened to my nation. It has gone to hell. Everything is upside down and backward and inside out, now. What was right before is now wrong, and what was wrong before is now right. Our national heroes are now evil villains, and our founding fathers are despicable racists whose memory must be expunged from our history.

If we don't change things soon, this nation is going away forever, and that would be unthinkable to me.

A lot of that stuff is superficial nonsense. A lot of the other stuff I still see people doing. So people don't say "how do you do" anymore. People don't need to be so formal all the time. I still see people greeting each other with waves or head nods and a "hello", "hey", "how's it going" or even a "sup". Handshakes are still around, but after covid they've lost some popularity to the fist bump. The notion is still the same. People still hold doors. Men for women, women for men, men for men, women for women, children for adults and adults for children. Yeah, I still witness people of all ages at the raceway standing for The National Anthem with their hands/hats over their hearts.

Sounds to me like you need to be living in a better place.
 
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