Novatac 120P XP-G - now with outdoor beamshots!

[boznet]

Just received some XP-G R5 and i wanted to try in my favorite EDC light.
it's my first mod it was not very easy to fit the XP-G inside but thanks to my dremel and a little work, it fit.
the tint is a little warmer, the spot is bigger, i'm not disappointed by the P4 swap.
some pics :

 

[nanotech17]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

nice work,did you enlarge the stock Novatac heatsink as well?
If you add some glow powder around the xpg it will show up even nicer

 

[Ajay]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

That red thing is the stock heatsink???!!!

Nice work Boznet done like a pro....the thread and the swap:thumbsup:

 

[toby_pra]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

That red thing is the stock heatsink???!!!

Nice work Boznet done like a pro....the thread and the swap:thumbsup:

Yes stock heatsink...nice, right? :thumbsup:

Very nice mod, how about some outdoor beamshots?:twothumbs

 

[IMSabbel]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

That red thing is the stock heatsink???!!!

Nice work Boznet done like a pro....the thread and the swap:thumbsup:

Does not seem to have any thermal grease around it, so i would rather qualify it as heat buffer than as sink... that would be the casing tube, with which the red block doesnt seem to have a lot of contact.

 

[leukos]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

So you probably have a Novatac 200P now? :thumbsup:

 

[boznet]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

nice work,did you enlarge the stock Novatac heatsink as well?
If you add some glow powder around the xpg it will show up even nicer

:thanks:, i did not enlarge the stock heatsink, i have only trimed the 10mm board to fit the 8mm hole on the heatsink, and the glow powder is a good idea, i just order some

That red thing is the stock heatsink???!!!

Nice work Boznet done like a pro....the thread and the swap:thumbsup:

:thanks:, not like a pro but for a first time, i think that not so bad

Yes stock heatsink...nice, right? :thumbsup:

Very nice mod, how about some outdoor beamshots?:twothumbs

:thanks: , but it's gonna be difficult to find a place without ligths to take some outdoor pics (i'm in paris), will try to find a place without light polution

Does not seem to have any thermal grease around it, so i would rather qualify it as heat buffer than as sink... that would be the casing tube, with which the red block doesnt seem to have a lot of contact.

yes, i did put some artic ceramique thermal compound in the hole of the heatsink before i put the led and i have also put some around the heatsink before i replaced the element inside the head

So you probably have a Novatac 200P now? :thumbsup:

:thanks:, i think more 150P

 

[Cuso]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

Hmmm ingteresting how the SSC reflector seems to work fine with the XP-G. Nice job.

 

[DaFABRICATA]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

Nice Mod!
The beam looks great!:twothumbs

Hmmm ingteresting how the SSC reflector seems to work fine with the XP-G. Nice job.

You are correct in that the XP-G has worked perfectly with every SSC compatible reflector I have tried....and I've tried a lot!

 

[John_Galt]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

Wow, that's pretty interesting...

But what's even more interesting is that you've had 9 post since Feb. 07. If this is the kind of stuff you can do, you need to post more often! poke Nice job!!!

**EDIT** Hey, a question... The hotspot appears much larger than stock. Is it floodier now? I ask, because there have been many comments by people here that the Novatac is much too floody stock, and is much more usable with a K2 TFFC swap, as it focuses better, and throws further.

 

[boznet]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

Wow, that's pretty interesting...

But what's even more interesting is that you've had 9 post since Feb. 07. If this is the kind of stuff you can do, you need to post more often! poke Nice job!!!

**EDIT** Hey, a question... The hotspot appears much larger than stock. Is it floodier now? I ask, because there have been many comments by people here that the Novatac is much too floody stock, and is much more usable with a K2 TFFC swap, as it focuses better, and throws further.

Yes the hotspot is larger but it's not floodier to me than the stock lamp it's just a little bit brigther, i don't have a K2 to compare i just saw some pics and the K2 appears to have more throw than the XP-G

 

[kz1000s1]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

Good work! Did you have to shim the board to get the focus right? Was the board easy to trim with the dremel?

I have some XPG's arriving in a few days and one is going in my HDS EDC. The hope is that it'll be driven a little harder than it would in a Novatac.

 

[boznet]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

sorry my english is not so good what is "shim"?
the focus was good with the stock reflector i did not mod anything.
trimming the board was long because of the dremel the board is gettin very hot immediatly and it was hard holding it, turning and trimming at the same time

Good work! Did you have to shim the board to get the focus right? Was the board easy to trim with the dremel?

I have some XPG's arriving in a few days and one is going in my HDS EDC. The hope is that it'll be driven a little harder than it would in a Novatac.

 

[boznet]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

here's some outdoor beamshots :

control pic

stock 120P

XPG

control pic

stock 120P

XPG

control pic

stock 120P

XPG

control pic

stock 120P

XPG

control pic

stock 120P

XPG

:thumbsup:

 

[DM51]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

Very good work, and nice beamshots!

That is a very noticeable difference from the stock 120 beam. If the stock is a genuine 120, that must be ~200 lm, by the look of it. Great mod!

 

[kz1000s1]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

sorry my english is not so good what is "shim"?
the focus was good with the stock reflector i did not mod anything.
trimming the board was long because of the dremel the board is gettin very hot immediatly and it was hard holding it, turning and trimming at the same time

Actually your English is good. I have no problem understanding you.
A shim is a thin piece of material (metal like copper or aluminum in this case) placed under the LED to move it up farther into the reflector.

I was thinking that it would be difficult to trim a board that's so small.

Thanks!

Nice beamshots! I agree with a 200 lumen estimate. It could even be more. When you have such a big increase in spill beam brightness that
is a lot of extra lumens. Try doing a ceiling bounce test in a small room comparing it with the stock 120P.
I can't wait for my XPG's!

 

[KDOG3]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

Watching this thread very closely. I'm about to order a Ra light and want to keep up with the best mod for it...

 

[kz1000s1]

Re: Novatac 120P XP-G

I completed my HDS XP-G. Now from comparisons with other lights I still stand by my 200 lumen estimate. My Quark has a slightly brighter hotspot, but doesn't put out as much light.

Results Here: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/247460

I had also been thinking about getting an RA Clicky instead of the HDS for this mod. A tough choice. The mod shouldn't be too hard.
Here's a thread I found about Ra upgrading: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/214748

 

[ionizedsky]

Could you please elaborate how the head came a part in detail. I am getting ready to do similar mod.

 

[boznet]

Just take out the retaining ring and the pill will follow,
very easy if the retaining ring is not glued with red loctite.
i used i little piece that i've cut from a small saw.

good mod, cheers
boz

Could you please elaborate how the head came a part in detail. I am getting ready to do similar mod.