Acro A3100 and Streamlight Lightbox HID(s) Quick Review with outdoor beamshots

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Acro A3100 and Streamlight Lightbox HID(s) Quick Review // new pics 8/16/08

I would like this considered for the reviews section if possible... Thanks!
8/16/08 new pics added several reply's down
Hi,
Yesterday I received 2 35 watt H.I.D. lights from Brightguy. http://www.brightguy.com I must say that they are one of my favorite places to order from... they are always happy to answer my questions... and have given me great customer service over the years. Anyway... I have been looking for a HID and wanted the Acro, but Greg included the Lightbox so I would have a choice.

First the Lightbox. This is a BIG light. It feels incredibly solid and not at all fragile. (although I would never want to drop any HID light...bulbs are expensive) Here are its dimensions:
Length: 14.9 in. (38 cm)
Body Width: 5.1 in. (13 cm)
Overall Height: 8.8 in. (23 cm)
Head Diameter: 7.7 in. (20cm)
Weight with battery: 10.1 lbs (4.6 kg)
Battery is a sealed lead acid type It gives up to 1 hour and 45 minutes of use...it takes 8-10 hours to charge and is designed to always rest on its charger when not in use... so you always have a charged light when you need it.
There is a short video of the HID lightbox on Streamlight's site. Here is a link: http://www.streamlight.com/HID_movie2.html
This is not the light I would want to take on a 8 mile hike through the woods, but It would be a great choice for a fireman, on a boat, or where its articulating head can be of use. Here are a few pictures of the light.
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Here it is next to the Acro Notice each light comes with a diffuser lens!
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The Lightbox's movable head
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Size comparison Light on bottom is SF E2DL
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The lightbox is activated by a up/down toggle switch with up turning on the light, and down turning on the 2 5mm leds in the front of the light. Middle position is off. This light is over I would guess 800+ lumens within a second or two of being turned on. It also has a nice color temp beam.... not to cool (blue) The diffuser lens fits into a grove in the rubber bezel bumper. It should be put in so the rows of prisms (?) should be horizontal, because it has a wide rectangle brighter section of light in the diffused beam. This again, is a very solid feeling light. I would not be afraid to take it into any kind of storm at all.

Next the Acro.

The Acro is a much smaller and lighter light. It uses a lithium battery pack that charges out of the light. This is nice, because you could buy an extra battery pack and have an extra 90 minutes of runtime. With its battery, the Acro weighs a little over 4 pounds. It is 11" long, 4" wide at the base, 2&2/3" at the body, 4&1/2 at the head. It reminds me somewhat of my old UK lightcannon 10Watt HID. (until I turn it on) The Acro also turns on and becomes very bright very quickly. Possibly slightly behind the lightbox...but not much. So if you decide you need either light, but worry about their spool up times.... don't.

Here is a picture of the Acro It comes with a hard plastic case.
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Here is a picture of the Acro's battery and charger
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I will post beamshots of both lights below. My overall impressions from one night of use are very favorable for both lights. The Streamlight feels like it is ready for anything.... fires, floods, whatever. It will light up things (light them up...not just put a small spot on them like most of my led throw lights) for up to a mile. I do like that it comes with a diffuser lens, because I am mainly using it in town...and blinding people on I25 by by work, would most likely not be appreciated. The Acro just seems way too small and light to put out the kind of light that it does. I also like how easily its diffuser snaps on and off. This light will also throw very well with the diffuser off, illuminating things several hundred yards away.

I will post beamshots in a few minutes. Thanks for reading!
 
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Man, that sure is a BIGG light. I'm anxious to see the beam and spot/corona shots. Thanks for reviewing both of these.
 
Re: Acro A3100 and Streamlight Lightbox HID(s) Quick Review // new pics 8/16/08

OK, Now for some beamshots. The first ones are from 30 yards away on to the wall of my store. (sorry not out in the desert, but I am working every night until July)
(exposure is 1 sec at f/2.8 Iso 64 daylight balance...wall is light brown)
First, my Surefire E2DL (120+lumens)
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Next a Black and Decker "2 million cp" spotlight
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The Acro
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The Lightbox
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Acro and Lightbox
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Now, the Acro Diffused
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The lightbox diffused
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For what I am using the lights for...and that the interstate is only a few hundred yards away, the diffuser lenses make these lights for me.

Electrical pole lattice 125 yards away (2 sec exposure)

Surefire E2DL
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"2million cp" spotlight"
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Acro
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Lightbox
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Acro, the advantages of having a diffuser
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Diffused
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Another diffused shot... sorry slightly blurry
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So there are the beamshots I have taken for now. I look forward to taking more when I can get a night off. I am really impressed with both lights. The Acro for its small size and big output. The Lightbox for its incredible solidness, and its ability to throw for a really long way (sorry I could not test that better here) Either light is a winner in my book.
 
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Great pics and review summery. I've been wondering about the Acro for months. I love the diffused beam too.

The Acro/RL-11 reminds me of the X990 on focused to spot.

The Lightbox seems a bit large but I'm really liking the Acro. That cord/plug connection caught my attention as well. Does in always stick out like that?


Thanks for the review.
 
The cord is only used for running the light off a dc source. I thought it would bother me too, but it is really unoticable in actual use. It apears well sealed against water untrusion. I just used the Acro again tonight. As a mainly led guy, its hard for me to believe how incredibly bright this thing is.
 
Nice review.

The LiteBox had the most throw out of all the HIDs at the Shot Show 2008 Shoot Out.

It is huge though.

Wow! Thanks for the link. I left the lightbox at home tonight and have been playing with the Acro. It is ever so much more of a practical light for me, than the lightbox. Yet, I just can't stop thinking about the stupid thing. It is So Huge! It really feels like something out of a video game.... like when you get the "Redeemer" (huge portable missle launcher that kills everybody on the screen) in Unreal Tournament. Everytime I pick it up (and it really is not that heavy) I cannot help grinning ear to ear like a little kid getting to shoot his first 20 guage instead after only shooting .22's.

Part of me really believes that is the light I will end up keeping. For no ligical reason other than the fact it is built like a tank.... and it just cracks me up carrying it around. My only other way to compare the draw it has on me, is to compare it to my favorite gun I have ever had... a 6lb single shot 10 guage. It kicked like a freakin horse and it was not nearly as practical as a 12 guage. But I grinned every time I picked one of its monster shells out of the box.... and got done cussing each time I shot it. It was just more fun than any of the many guns I have owned.

If I were 6'5" and weighed 265lbs, the light box would make much more sense to me. But the fact that I am 5'6" makes it even more comical. Plus I can't wait to take a picture of my buddies 3 year old son holding it. Again, the Acro makes much more sense for me to buy, and is an incredible light. But I just can't get the stupid lightbox out of my head, and my most fun toys rarely make much sense.

I will bring the lightbox to work tomorrow night, and see if I can talk some sense into myself and keeping the Acro, but something tells me....
 
Have you decided which to keep yet? How would you compare the build quality of each diffuser? It one thicker or more robustly built than the other? Do they both attach securely?

I notice that the Lightbox Diffuser is more diffused than the Acro.
 
Have you decided which to keep yet? How would you compare the build quality of each diffuser? It one thicker or more robustly built than the other? Do they both attach securely?

I told Greg I would decide tonight. I still don't know. The Acro is so small and light, and I like its diffused beam better. But, every time I look at the 2008 shot show shootout, the Lightbox amazes me, and it ramps up to 80% full power almost instantly. Both diffusers are secure, but the Acro's is faster to put on. Build quality is very good on both, but the Lightbox is made out of "fireman" type plastic that is textured and feels really thick. I will decide tonight. Although, I am pretty close to the Mexico border...
 
Buying both would be nice, but I am kind of a minimalist. I have bought a lot of lights... but when I buy new I usually sell my old. I have decided to keep the Acro. Its small size and light weight, combined with its great diffuser as well as spot beams won me over. I also like the ability to buy a second battery if I start to need longer runtimes.

I do highly recommend the lightbox to someone who needs a rugged, fast start hid that can throw a really long distance. It is also a great light.

The main thing that frustrates me is that I did not buy an hid before now. After selling my 10watt a couple of years ago, I have bought every "new and just a little brighter" led light out there. Always looking for just a few more lumens and a little more throw and spill. Had I bought a 20watt+ hid a while back, I would have saved myself several hundred (+) dollars in leds. I could be very happy with the Acro and a Olight T20 as my only lights. Oh well, live and learn, but if you are like me, and always spending $100+ on the latest and greatest led light... just to get a little more oomph... buy a hid. No matter if it is a Xenide, N30, Acro, Lightbox, Barnburner or whatever, it will put illumination into a whole new perspective for you. Just don't catch the hid bug.... that sounds REALLY expensive. As for me, I finally have the level of light I have been searching for.
 
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Forgive my newbiness...........just got this light and I have a few questions:

1. HOW do you get the battery out?
2. I assume this can't be powered with a home outlet, since all that is supplied is a car lighter cord?
3. Do I need to recharg this after every use, which means unscrewing the back cover? The manual isn't very helpful.

Thanks in advance
 
Forgive my newbiness...........just got this light and I have a few questions:

1. HOW do you get the battery out?
2. I assume this can't be powered with a home outlet, since all that is supplied is a car lighter cord?
3. Do I need to recharg this after every use, which means unscrewing the back cover? The manual isn't very helpful.

Thanks in advance


1) unscrew the tailcap and pull the battery rewards
2) It can be recharged by a home outlet with supplied AC charger but not powered by home AC outlet. It can be continuously powered by either 12V or 24V power supply.
3) No, li-ion batteries do not "have" to be recharged after every use or partial use. You can also top-off charge them as frequently as you want. li-ion batteries don't have the memory issues that other types have.
3A) Yes, you have to unscrew the back cover (tailcap) to charge according to the description on Brightguy's website.

Additional help links:
http://magnalight.com/pc-316-30-rechargeable-hid-handheld-light--rl-11.aspx
http://www.brightguy.com/products/Acro_A3100_HID_Rescue_Light.php
 
Thanks Patriot! Tonyny, check the top part of your Acro case. Mine (from Brightguy) came with bot a car cord and a home charger. The home charger cord is hidden in the top part of the case.

The home charger is not meant to power the light, only charge the battery. It plugs into the converter box that plugs into the battery.
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The car cord can power the light without draining the lights battery when it plugs into the dc cord at the back of the light (by the diffuser)
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Now I understand the advantages of having a separate dc cord at the back of the light. (the light's tail:) ) at first, I did not like this, but now seeing how it works.... that you can use the light as a spotlight off your car or boat's battery, and just pull the dc (to cigarette lighter plug) cord out of the jack at the back of the light.... and the light is now mobile without it ever shutting off.
 
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Now I understand the advantages of having a separate dc cord at the back of the light. (the light's tail:) ) at first, I did not like this, but now seeing how it works.... that you can use the light as a spotlight off your car or boat's battery, and just pull the dc (to cigarette lighter plug) cord out of the jack at the back of the light.... and the light is now mobile without it ever shutting off.

It is a nice feature though in my opinion the rediculous part is you have a cable hanging there instead of a regular connector type socket.

Mac
 
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