husky20
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Was wondering witch one of these lights candle power forums users would rather own.I am considering both and would apprieciate some feedback.
AE XENIDE 25 WATT OR MICROFIRE K3500?
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husky20
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I just want to have a really awesome flashlight that can blind someone from far off if need be.Allready have the fenix p3d rebel and the rebel lod and really like them both have the lod on my key chain blows my photon away!love fenix i think they are really good quality lights cant wait until they come out with a 500 lumen model im there!
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Ok, well..no light will really blind someone a long ways off, but an HID with a nice, smooth reflector will certainly annoy somebody and make them turn their head away.
If you're just looking for an awesome light I'd have to recommend the Xenide out of your two choices. The K3500 is a decent light and it's bright but it doesn't throw quite as far as the Xenide, mostly because the reflector isn't as good as the Xenide's. The Xenide has the feeling of being built better, has a better charging system, a better battery system, better electronics and the switch is in a better place imo. The K3500 has a small focus adjustment range which is actually kinda nice for flood purposes while walking. The K3500's beam is very blue compared to the Xenide. Overall the Xenide is a finer light and the 1500 lumens is true output with good color. I'd say that the K3500 would be a nice 2nd or 3rd HID if you decide that you'd like to own more in the future.
If you're just looking for an awesome light I'd have to recommend the Xenide out of your two choices. The K3500 is a decent light and it's bright but it doesn't throw quite as far as the Xenide, mostly because the reflector isn't as good as the Xenide's. The Xenide has the feeling of being built better, has a better charging system, a better battery system, better electronics and the switch is in a better place imo. The K3500 has a small focus adjustment range which is actually kinda nice for flood purposes while walking. The K3500's beam is very blue compared to the Xenide. Overall the Xenide is a finer light and the 1500 lumens is true output with good color. I'd say that the K3500 would be a nice 2nd or 3rd HID if you decide that you'd like to own more in the future.
husky20
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Thanx for your info that settels it im going for the AE :thumbsup:
HIDSGT
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What is the application? It's kinda hard to understand from ur post? There are few HID's with over 1000 lumens that can be looked at directly so blinding someone is a relatively easy task with any HID today.
The bulb color of the MF3500 is not as white as the Xenide but I would say they are close in lumens output with the MF3500 slightly brighter. I would say the Xenide is slightly brighter then my PL24. My PL24 is noticably less bright then my MF3500 so I cant really see the Xenide being a brighter light by any means. Even if the MF lumens are overated (which they are). The 3500 lumen rating is still brighter then the Xenide's 1500 lumens (which is probably pretty close to a true rating). I find it hard to belive that the MF's lumen rating is off by 2000 lumens.
You could probably fit (2) MF3500's in a one Xenide. The MF3500 weights about a pound and feels it. The Xenide is quite a large item. It's 13.5 inches vs. 10 inches for the MF3500 and weighs almost twice as much and is much thicker around the handle. Personally I would get the MF3500 over the Xenide in a heartbeat! And not because I own a MF but because I own an AE as well. I do like the on/off button better on the Xenide tho.
But lets face it, it doesn't come with a "Shoulder Strap" as a standard feauture because it is a small light....:thinking: A spare MF battery could be carried in ones pocket and still hike up a mountain. A spare Xenide battery will need some type of backsac of some sort. Ur certainly not fitting that in ur back pocket. Just my $.02.... Two each his own.
The bulb color of the MF3500 is not as white as the Xenide but I would say they are close in lumens output with the MF3500 slightly brighter. I would say the Xenide is slightly brighter then my PL24. My PL24 is noticably less bright then my MF3500 so I cant really see the Xenide being a brighter light by any means. Even if the MF lumens are overated (which they are). The 3500 lumen rating is still brighter then the Xenide's 1500 lumens (which is probably pretty close to a true rating). I find it hard to belive that the MF's lumen rating is off by 2000 lumens.
You could probably fit (2) MF3500's in a one Xenide. The MF3500 weights about a pound and feels it. The Xenide is quite a large item. It's 13.5 inches vs. 10 inches for the MF3500 and weighs almost twice as much and is much thicker around the handle. Personally I would get the MF3500 over the Xenide in a heartbeat! And not because I own a MF but because I own an AE as well. I do like the on/off button better on the Xenide tho.
But lets face it, it doesn't come with a "Shoulder Strap" as a standard feauture because it is a small light....:thinking: A spare MF battery could be carried in ones pocket and still hike up a mountain. A spare Xenide battery will need some type of backsac of some sort. Ur certainly not fitting that in ur back pocket. Just my $.02.... Two each his own.
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dwminer
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I like my K3500 use it all the time, but long term support will always be a question. Need a lens, reflector, or a battery or all three in a hurry, good luck. I think there are only two dealers in the U.S and extra parts are limited. Please correct me on this if I'm wrong. With the Xenide or AE no problem.
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husky20
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I just want a awesome flashlite to beat all lights.incase some crooks or tweakers are sneaking around my two acres in the middle of the night would be nice to stop them like a deer in the headlights!
im thinking amondotech n30 might be the ticket for me.Im just wanting the next version of that sweet little light.I think there making improvements on it.Like water resistant and lithion ion or something.at least i hope they are?:thinking:
im thinking amondotech n30 might be the ticket for me.Im just wanting the next version of that sweet little light.I think there making improvements on it.Like water resistant and lithion ion or something.at least i hope they are?:thinking:I just want a awesome flashlite to beat all lights.incase some crooks or tweakers are sneaking around my two acres in the middle of the night would be nice to stop them like a deer in the headlights!
My suggestion for the scenario that you described is to get an inexpensive rechargeable Vector spotlight. If you need a smaller form factor then maybe a MagCharger, Ultra-Stinger, Surefire M3, M4, M6, or any other bright incandescent light that will still be reliable.
The the awesome light to beat all lights, at least in the HID realm, will cost you a couple of thousand dollars and still will not be ideal for your the purpose that you described.
If your looking for a security type of light, keep in mind that HIDs take some time to reach their maximum output level. They take anywhere from 6-7 seconds all the way to 25-35 seconds to reach full brightness depending on the light.
If you're looking for an instant "shock effect" to deter people sneaking around where they shouldn't be, a bright incandescent light will turn on instantly and will be much brighter at first....until the HID catches up, as it warms.
The N30 is a great light at a great price but you may have to adjust your tactics a little bit with HID in the scenario that you described. You might have to point the light at the floor or against the wall and let it warm for 10 seconds before opening a door or window to shine it at people sneaking around. You increase the possibility of partially blinding yourself with the reflection when sweeping a HID beam around but that's because they aren't ideal for "tactical" situations whereas bright incans and LEDs are.
I say get both the N30 to use and enjoy for searching you property but also get a bright "1million" CP, rechargeable spotlight for those "bumb in the yard at night" situations.
husky20
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Allready have a couple of those one million candle power rechargables.They are cool i was allready thinking about the situation i described and planed on a short against the wall warm up first.Just wish all the hid's had polarion start up briliance polarions are amazing but also amazingly expensive to.powerfull lazer could work with the lite.
husky20
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No i have not got the AE yet? thinking about the amondotech n30! hope your not wanting to sell me the one you talked about dropping several times:naughty:
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If he offers it for a good price you should jump on it. A couple of bumps aren't going to hurt that light.
I think the N30 is a nice design unless you do lots of walking with it, then it's a bit wide.
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Whatever.
Nope, mine's a keeper. There's no way I'm letting this one go!:rock:
I am selling a battery though, if you're interested drop me a line.
Dudemar
Then you said:
Whatever.
Nope, mine's a keeper. There's no way I'm letting this one go!:rock:
I am selling a battery though, if you're interested drop me a line.
Dudemar
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husky20
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What do you guys think about the wolf eyes boxer 24 watt HID.as good as microfire or AE? i saw some awesome pics from some guy on here and the beam shots were amazing! flood and spot wow!
wonder how the start up time is on that bad boy!
wonder how the start up time is on that bad boy!
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husky20
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I wonder what polarion use's for there instant strike hid's must be a costly option though. Wish they all fired like the polarion helio's!even if they reached full bore in a few seconds that would be good. But 20 30 seconds i don't like that.:candle:thats why im hoping for a thousand plus lumen LED now that would be sweet! not to large and excellent throw and maybe strobe or something.
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Husky, I think that we need to point out that all of these HIDs that we're discussing produce well over 500 lumens within a couple of seconds. So don't let the 20 second warm-up time bum you out. The warm-up and lumen output isn't an linear curve. For example: Half of the maximum output might be attained during the first 5 or 6 seconds, while the remaining output is attained during the next 15 seconds. Does that make sense....
With regards to 1000+ lumen, multi-led lights, they already exist in the form of mag-modded customs and a couple of factory flashlights. One of them is the WiseLED 1500 and is one of my favorite lights. I don't remember what your price range was, but these high output, multi-LED lights are all fairly expensive....$500 on up.
