Anyone tried the UNIQ Coninuously Variable Tail Cap ?

Was just over at LightHound browsing around, and came across this new (at least to me) tail cap.
http://www.lighthound.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3514&HS=1

Sounds very interesting, was just wondering if anyone had tried it out.
I have a MilkySpit M375 that I would love to use it on.
But I am just wondering if it will only work properly on the simpler LED drop-ins.

~John


yes. using it on a SF 6P-GM (gunmetal color) with a UNIQ 145lumen drop-in (actually tested using an integrating sphere by a CPF member).

the color of the UNIQ tailcap doesn't match the GM color of the 6P, but it's a "somewhat" close natural anodized color. hence, it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb, like it would on a black SolarForce L2 or other black host.

i tried the UNIQ tail-cap (still on the 6P-GM) with a SolarForce R2 drop-in. it had an interesting, perhaps desirable, side-effect (side-effect *NOT* present when used with the Uniq 145lm drop-in) . with the UNIQ tail-cap fully tightened, meaning NOT locked-out (i.e., partially loosened/unscrewed just as one would do with a 6P, G2, L5, L1, etc.) the R2 was CONSTANTLY ON in a moon-glow mode (significantly lower than the INITIAL TURN-ON low mode). yet, in this moon-glow mode it still provides enough light for navigating around a darkened basement. probably burns for a gazillion hours on this setting. if this feature is desired, it is a simple matter to slightly loosen the Uniq tail-cap to get the light to turn fully OFF, as long as one doesn't mind that they now, in effect, have converted in behavior a clickie tail-cap , into a hybrid clickie-SF tactical tail-cap (sorta like a SF E-series tailcap) - the best of both worlds IMO.

since i only have one UNIQ tail-cap, i can't compare this constant moon-glow mode with the lowest low that the UNIQ tail-cap produces when used in that same 6P-GM with the UNIQ 145lumen drop-in. you see, something else i discovered is that the supposed lowest low turn-on mode (IIRC the Lighthound.com write-up), while very low, is NOT the lowest low. if one turns the light (6P-GM+Uniq 145lm drop-in+Uniq tail-cap), it comes on quite low, but if one starts to dim the light further by holding depressed the Uniq tailcap button, the light WILL STEP DOWN EVEN LOWER. the moon-glow mode and absolute manually adjusted lowest low, might(???) be the exact same o.p. level - don't know.


other nice features:

the time it takes the light to respond to a tailcap press+hold is much faster than my Gladius and Typhoon II lights. i really appreciate this fact.

it step up and down at a pretty decent rate, i.e. NOT too fast or too slow.

since it employs a TRUE "hunting" scheme, it is easy to correct for an overshoot in light output by releasing and repressing the tailcap button. the light then adjusts in the opposite direction (i.e., if brightening, it now dims, and vice versa).

since it employes TRUE "hunting", you can change direction in mid-stream, i.e. you DON'T have to wait until the BRIGHTEST or DIMMEST output level is reached in order to change direction.

this tailcap, together with the Uniq 145lm drop-in (which is plenty bright on MAX o.p.) has transformed an otherwise, sorta' vanilla (in terms of features), 6P into a very flexible light.

it is permanently carried in my Safari/Travel/Photographer's vest with a lanyard attached to a D-ring. since i can be found almost always wearing the vest, the Uniq 6P-GM is also almost always with me.


i'll probably be gettin' myself another Uniq tail-cap very soon.

hope this info helps. if anything in it was confusing or i failed to address a question that you had, please Post back and i'll attempt to clarify or answer as the case may be.
 
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Wow thanks alot for the detailed reply.
Sounds like a nice tailcap, I have always thought that adding multiple levels to a light makes it MUCH more useful.
My main concern is how it will act with the regulated M375 head.
I know that in the past, some simple resistor two stage switches have caused issues with some lights.

The M375 is really the only light I have to use with one of these,
so I am a bit worried about getting one, and it now working properly with it.

~John
 
Wow thanks alot for the detailed reply.
Sounds like a nice tailcap, I have always thought that adding multiple levels to a light makes it MUCH more useful.
My main concern is how it will act with the regulated M375 head.
I know that in the past, some simple resistor two stage switches have caused issues with some lights.

The M375 is really the only light I have to use with one of these,
so I am a bit worried about getting one, and it now working properly with it.

~John


sorry, i don't know anything about the M375 head.

also, John, i see by your avatar that you are in LE, as such, please remember that it will ALWAYS turn-on at a very LOW level. it is *NOT* tactical by any means. there is NO MEMORY function which remembers the last used o.p. level.
 
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Interesting. I have one on order - actually it has probably arrived - but due to my travel schedule it will be a few weeks before I get to play with it. I will let you know if mine behaves the same way.

-- Bob (also a LEO but not planning to use this piece for tactical purposes.)
 
Nope, not in LE, I dont think they would want me after taking a closer look at my avatar ;)
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Thanks for the info,
~John
 
Nope, not in LE, I dont think they would want me after taking a closer look at my avatar ;)
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Thanks for the info,
~John

sorry, my mistake. still can't make out what that avatar is. i thought the avatar combined with the alias which i mis-supposed was short for "justice" equaled LEO. just shows the dangers of drawing conclusions without sufficient data (so, it must be "John Tice").
 
Not hard to find out what my real name is, just visit my site lol

heh, that "light" in the back there was a maglite I hacked up on the lathe one day, it was gutted, and didnt work anymore.

~John
 
would this work on any LED drop in? I sure would like to see a review of this tailcap with the Malkoff M60.
 
Stitch and others,

I finally got mine, which i am using with a Leef 2 x18500 body and Malkoff M60. Firstly, I did get the "moonglow" effect reported above with a DX 11836 drop-in, but not with the Malkoff. This leads me to assume that it is an unintended side-effect that occurs with some drop-ins, but as one who kind of likes SF twisty/lockout tailcaps, I wouldn't find this too objectionable.

I am not sure whether the output is a tiny bit less than with a regular tailcap. If it is, it's a very small difference, on the edge of noticeability. I will experiment again tonight when it gets good and dark and report back.

In operation it works pretty well. Anodizing is very nearly the same as SF's HA-III natural; close enough to be a very acceptable match. I don't know if the UNIQ is HA-III or not; ask me in a month. :) It is also quite a bit longer and a tiny bit wider than the standard SF tailcaps, so you may have holster-fit issues with the UNIQ.

It is absolutely not suited for tactical use. But for a home or bike light I like it a lot.

Lastly, if anybody is contemplating using a Malkoff M60-series drop-in with the Leef body, it works fine, but you'll need an outer spring to get it to make contact. I used the one which came with my DX 11836 and it works fine.

-- Bob
 
Torch Boy:

OK, I have played with the M60/Uniq combo a little more, compared with stock SF tailcaps. If there is any drop in output at the highest setting with the Uniq I can't detect it, at least not with the naked eye.
 
I bought one based on the previous posts here. I find that it works better with higher voltage, with higher current draw lamps that are brigher than low, and I get the moon glow mode, but can still turn it off with the switch.

It works much better running 8 plus volts from 3 CR123's or rechargeables or 2 17500's than on a pair of primaries making 6V. I have used it on various LED modules. I have seen it get stuck in high mode when running my Malkoff M60 or M60F, but a quick click turns it off and it comes back on low. I have seen it go to that lower than low moon glow mode and it won't click off from there, but if I raise up the power again first and then click it off, it goes off. At 6V it just seems to get stuck in modes and not change or turn off all the time without having to ramp up to high more often.

I have watched the change in current directly on an ammeter in series using a set of jumper wires and it linearly ramps the current up and down.

Standby current using the 2 17500 batteries making more than 8V is 1.0 milliamp. Quarter turn of the tail cap makes that go away as now it is an open circuit.

I have tested a couple different lights in the integration sphere at full power using the CV tailcap and the regular on/off tailcap and saw no change in total lumens out.

My only complaint is that its is wider than both the SureFire 6P and the Solarforce L2 tubes, not the same diameter. Why they did this I don't know. But since it works great and I do get variable brightness levels I will use it. It makes the M60F work like a house light with a dimmer switch. Its a keeper. :thumbsup:
 
So it sounds like the UNIQ at full on is allowing the M60 circuit to function properly? Is the UNIQ using PWM?

Bill
 
I haven't looked at its output on an O'scope, just a digital current meter. I can't say how it works inside, yet I can here it buzz. When I have more time to play with it I may put voltage probe across it and see if the output is pulse width modulated, and if I can't tell that way I will put a current probe that goes to the O'scope i series with it and look at the current as I run it up and down. But its going to be a while, very busy at work.
 
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