Best 1AAA EDC flashlight

nzbazza

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Over the years I have been only interested in headlamps because that's what I needed for my interests in the outdoors. Now that I have far too many headlamps to fit on my head, it's time to look at other things. Such as some bling on the keyring.

I'm looking for the best 1AAA flashlight so I can EDC it on the keyring. I had considered CR2 lights but preferred AAA because they are far more commonly available and I have some spare eneloops looking for a home.

Two options I am looking at are the L0D-RB80 or Arc AAA-P. The L0D appeals with its multi-levels and high output, while the Arc AAA-P due to its "bombproof" construction. The torch will used every day and I'm likely to keep it for a long while. Cost isn't a huge factor in the decision.

Please help me decide and/or suggest something better.
 
Over the years I have been only interested in headlamps because that's what I needed for my interests in the outdoors. Now that I have far too many headlamps to fit on my head, it's time to look at other things. Such as some bling on the keyring.

I'm looking for the best 1AAA flashlight so I can EDC it on the keyring. I had considered CR2 lights but preferred AAA because they are far more commonly available and I have some spare eneloops looking for a home.

Two options I am looking at are the L0D-RB80 or Arc AAA-P. The L0D appeals with its multi-levels and high output, while the Arc AAA-P due to its "bombproof" construction. The torch will used every day and I'm likely to keep it for a long while. Cost isn't a huge factor in the decision.

Please help me decide and/or suggest something better.

I find the Arc lights to be very disappointing on both output and beam tint given their price (at least I thought so, others do like them).

The L0D-RB80 would be ok, but I would wait for the L0D-RB100.

The L0D costs over 45 dollars and uses a Rebel-80, when a Rebel-100 emitter costs only $4.40 (less than 10% of the final sale price). In the past some companies paid up to 25% or 30% of the final retail cost of thier lights just for the emitter, but for some STUPID reason, Fenix decided to CHEAP OUT and screw every one of their L0D-R80 customers out of the extra 25% output which they would be getting with the higher output Rebel-100 device (just to shave an extra few bucks off, when the cost of high power LED's is already at it's lowest point in history).

This is an absolute outrage, which I expect to be corrected soon, so I would plan to go with the L0D, but wait for the higher output Rebel-100 version (probably at the same price), because buying the L0D-RB80 at this time is a suckers bet.
 
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Hi nzbazza,
I have never owned an arc but I do know they are much loved here on cpf. I was, however, able to snag a couple of LOD rebel 100 naturals as gifts for my family. They are great lights and it was difficult to give them away. But as I love my LOD Q2, and because the performance was very close on e2 primaries, I waved goodby to them. Of course, being a flashaholic, lust got the better of me and I was able to negotiate an exchange of the Q2 for the reb100. It rides in my pocket and if there is no reason to use it I find a reason, daily. It has a beautiful bright beam and always elicits oohs and aahs from the darkness challenged. I have to say that the 100's are worth every penny of the $60 plus shipping I laid out for each.
Hi Luminescent - I know that Fenix's decision to produce LOD reb 80's instead of LOD 100's really twists your knickers, and I have to agree it is disappointing. I have to think there is a significant business reason for not doing so. Maybe Fenix invested heavily in 80's. I don't really know. But I agree with you that the 100's should be produced asap. As Toney the Tiger said, they'rrrrre Grrrrrrrrate!
 
Hi Luminescent - I know that Fenix's decision to produce LOD reb 80's instead of LOD 100's really twists your knickers, and I have to agree it is disappointing. I have to think there is a significant business reason for not doing so.

Hi Shakey,

Glad to hear that you are still pleased with your L0D Rebel 100 purchase, I rember well our original RB80 vs. RB100 converstations, so I would like to think you are happy with your decision, you were one of very few to get in on them.
(wish I had talked myself into one of the L0D-RB100s before the supply dried up) :sigh:

As to Fenix's strategy . . .

No mystery.

'significant business reason' = more $$$$ 4 Fenix and less PERFORMANCE 4 you.

Another way they insure more $$$$ for Fenix is to play stupid 'planned obsolescence' games. That's why you can't currently get a Rebel-100 even if you have the bucks in your hand and ARE willing to be RIPPED OFF by paying a 'premium' price to buy a light with a LED emitter that actually costs Fenix LESS money than they used to have to pay for lower performance parts a few years back.

I got the idea that Dave wasn't happy at all about that little deal you got from the dealer in Japan.

http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=173150&page=3

How dare that this guy in Japan buck the system, didn't he know that we are supposed to move at a snail's pace, making them buy the same light over and over and over again, to get only TINY TINY TINY improvements.

How dare he jump right straight to the Rebel-100!!!

Not that I am implying that Dave is happy with this game either, but I did get the distinct impression that he felt a little miffed that he had to deal with it, and this other store in Japan, 'cuts the line' and jumps ahead straight to the L0D Rebel-100.

You see, first you get the standard Luxeon version, then you get the CREE P4 edtion, then you get the Q2, then the Rebel-80, then maybe, just maybe, [if your lucky and beg enough], maybe we roll out the Rebel-100.

As an engineer, I like to design and build the BEST product that is possible given the budget available, and the Rebel-100 was possible and economical for Fenix to produce from DAY-1 when the parts first became available.

So it really pisses me off that Fenix has put playing these kinds of silly games ahead of just producing the best possible product that they can.

The one consolation I have is knowing that now that the word is out, Fenix will get their just deserts, because the WORST possible situation to be in, is having your customers know that a BETTER product is just around the corner, because your sales will dry up overnight as customers hunker down and wait for the next version.

So to my fellow CPF members I can only say, DON'T BUY ANY OF THE FENIX REBEL-80 VERSIONS THEY ARE DELIBERATELY CRIPPLED RIPP-OFFS, and to my friends at Fenix I would say, hope you enjoy watching the L0D-RB80 and other RB80 version sales drop to near zero now that the word is out (until you fix this), and shame on you for even trying such a silly scam. :tsk:

The path open to Fenix to recover some credibility is simple; replace the RB80 models with RB100 models at the same price, and offer adjustments to anyone who did buy a RB80 model.
 
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What about the LiteFlux LF2, best buy IMO small 1xAAA user programmable flashlight like no other, just ordered one, I think it is the best keychain light these days.

You can use unprotected 10440 rechargebles and programm it with over discharge protection.
 
I've been EDCing a Dorcy 1xAAA for a couple years. I picked it up at Wal-Mart for about $6 after taxes, battery included, but I've used Energizer NiMH since the original batt bit the dust.

Mine is Gen II where the LED is visible through the lens. AFAIK, current Gen III lights use a lens along the lines of the old-style Inova X1 AA lights where the light coming out the business end is round with no usable side spill IMHO.

Pros:
1. very cheap
2. Surefire-like activation (twist tailcap for constant on or push for momentary light – I unscrew the tailcap a little to prevent inadvertent activation in pocket. I also use teflon tape on the threads to prevent galling and to give some resistance to twisting)
3. a minimag AAA pocket clip works great to make the light an ersatz headlamp when fastened to the brim of a ball cap
4. can be comfortably held in teeth to do a quick hands-free project (but don't drool because the momentary button is not waterproof)
5. doesn't hurt the budget for stocking stuffers, loaners, or giveaways

Cons:
1. current version uses moonbeam lens
2. it just "feels" a little flimsy (but has held up for years with no ill effects aside from scratches in the finish, remember it does live in my pocket next to my keys)
3. key ring attachment is a thin wire that feels flimsy and is really tiny; I don't use it (I don't like any light attached to my keys, including Photon-sized lights)

I like this light because my intended uses are to illuminate an area ahead of me at night if I make a quick trip to the shed (where the freezer keeps the ice cream cold) or search under my desk for the pen I dropped; I don't demand that a 1xAAA light have outrageous amounts of light/throw. I'm also cost conscious; why spend an outrageous amount of money on a relatively disposable tool?! If you can find a Gen II version or want to play around customizing a Gen III lens (the head unscrews very easy on my Gen II) it's a great value for a handy light.

blessings
-OB (oldblazer)
 
I'm currently EDCing the Jet-u on e2 lithium. Despite it's lower runtimes compared to the L0DCE, and inability to handle 10440 on Hi, I find I really like the flood beam. The finish is also more to my tastes as well, more "Arc"-like.

Here's my comparative review to the LOD:
Jetbeam Jet-u and Fenix L0D-CE 1AAA shootout: RUNTIMES, BEAMSHOTS, and TEMPERATURES

I don't have the Jet-u but I have an OEM which is exactly like the Jet-u(same UI, same led, same everything. Claim to be from the same factory). Love the floody beam, also use the e2 lithium and always set to on at low.

Sean
 
.... The torch will used every day and I'm likely to keep it for a long while. Cost isn't a huge factor in the decision.
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For this usage, I recommend the Arc AAA-P. It is built well enough so you will be able to use it daily for along time. I have a couple and carry one or both of them daily.
 
What about the LiteFlux LF2, best buy IMO small 1xAAA user programmable flashlight like no other, just ordered one, I think it is the best keychain light these days.

Ordered one as well and I'm eating my nails atm waiting for it to arrive (seems like the Finnish post office is going to double the delivery time, package appeared in their tracking system yesterday, by today it had moved about 10km in 23h).

Anyway, the reasons why I chose LF2 over the competition:
- No flicker at lower light levels (my eyes just pick this kind of stuff too easily, can't stand DLP projectors for example)
- 10440 over-discharge protection (it's going to be spending a lot of time in my pocket, sooner or later it will turn on without me knowing it)
 
I'd consider the Liteflux LF2. Highly configureable and good output.
While the Arc is respected, it's old and not up to date anymore. If you're in need of more light, you can't have it. Also the runtime isn't that long compared to other lights anymore.
 
Thanks guys for all the advice.

It looks like I will now have to choose between the L0D RB80 or the Liteflux LF3 (that I wasn't aware of previously).

I'll let you know how I go. Maybe by the time that happens the L0D will be up to the Rebel 120 so it becomes a no-brainer!!!
 
I've been using the Fenix EO for about a year, worn around the neck (always). Don't even know it's there until I need it, which is often. I tape the barrel, hold it in my mouth, have both hands free, plenty of light in most situations for close work, stands up for candle mode, 10-11 hours runtime, always works, twenty bucks, let's see, what else....
 
I ordered a LF2 SSC for this task myself just yesterday. It's cheaper than the L0D, and more versatile. The Jet-u isn't sold anymore, so I didn't even consider it.
 
If you can find one, the Fenix Lo-Ti is wonderful. Made from solid titanium it's the best built AAA you'll ever find. Kinda pricey at $100-$150 used and only 250 made total but one nice light.
 
With the newest Nicha DS out now, the latest ARC AAA-P DS is a no brainer (It's about 30% brighter than the CS).
 
+1 for the Arc AAA-P. It is small, extremely rugged and a simple, there when you need it flashlight. With the new DS model at 9 lumens, it is ample light for most tasks that a keychain light would be used for.
 
I went with arc because durability and being waterproof to 100feet where more important to me than brightness. Although my new DS is plenty bright
 
I'm not sure if I can hold out on the arc AAA-P DS much longer! I said I wouldn't get another since the lumens just went from 5.5 to 9.5 but I was playin around with my older aaa-p and thought...... years on keychain and brightness is still good, I haven't been able to break it yet either. Now I want a new arc p ds especially since now I hear it's not nearly as blue tinted! ** **** ****
 
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