mattchase
Newly Enlightened
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Updated 11-12-08: I have re-run all of the tests to double check accuracy. Once again, at almost the exact same time, the logging program crashed. However this time I had been making screen captures of it so I still have a mostly complete graph to post.
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Testing was done with 2AA Eneloops with the light at 1 meter.
This is the last screenshot I took before the program crashed, the flashlight was still putting out about 80 lumens but was dropping at a steady rate (the output started at about 1000 lux (corrected!)).
Direct Meter Readings
1802 lux peak (spot) @ 1m
746 lux peak (wide) @ 1m
Lightbox Readings (QUPS): I have done this test more times than I can count, with 3 sets of batteries (eneloops and alkalines) and I am getting two different sets of numbers from just a fraction of an inch difference in light position. I believe I am holding the light straight up and down and in the center of the milk carton light box, but it seems the smallest twitch changes the peak recording by about 35%. I have even tried attaching the light to a tripod center post, pointing straight down, to make sure the light is not tilted towards or away from the center of the light box. In that position I am getting the lower numbers similar to my initial testing. I need to make a new light box to tighter tolerances for small flashlights, I have tested some big lights with this one and the hole on the top is a bit large for smaller lights like this leaving room for error, which I think is what I'm experiencing now. So I present to you both sets of numbers that I am able to repeat, I'm not sure which are more accurate so don't hold me to them. If / when I get a new milk carton light box I will test again.
3711 lux peak (spot)
3994 lux peak (wide)
5960 lux peak (spot)
6008 lux peak (wide)
In the field experience: I took a bike ride last night with a Coleman Cree on one handlebar and a Duracell Daylight on my other handlebar. With them pointed equally at about 8 - 10 feet ahead of me I prefered the Duracell. Even though it is not as bright overall as the Coleman and has very little spill, the center bright spot on the Duracell is larger so covers more area with more light compared to a small bright spot with a large but dim spill.
Beamshots (at about 2' from wall):
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Wide (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Wide (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Wide (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Spot (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Spot (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Spot (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
As for build quality it is neither bad nor great. Time will tell how well it will hold up to actual use, though in my case it is probably going to end up on my bike so won't be getting dropped or handled very often. The beam has rings in it at the spot setting which are noticable on walls but not really a problem in real world use, and at the wide setting the beam is pretty smooth all the way around. There is a noticable difference in the center spot size and brightness from the spot setting to the wide setting, though not as big as the meter readings above might make you think. In doing some medium distance testing (about 25') I can see that on spot there is a better concentration of light and it is a bit brighter than on the wide setting. At about 60' the light still does an ok job but is starting to struggle. Pointing it at the side of a building about 90' away I really couldn't tell if there was any more light on the building, maybe just a bit with the light set to spot. There is some ambient city light around me affecting this result, out in the wilds this light would likely be more effective at such distances. But don't buy this light expecting a lot of throw, as it just isn't there.
But that's ok with me...it works great on my bike and looks pretty cool too.
Updated 11-12-08: I have re-run all of the tests to double check accuracy. Once again, at almost the exact same time, the logging program crashed. However this time I had been making screen captures of it so I still have a mostly complete graph to post.
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Testing was done with 2AA Eneloops with the light at 1 meter.
This is the last screenshot I took before the program crashed, the flashlight was still putting out about 80 lumens but was dropping at a steady rate (the output started at about 1000 lux (corrected!)).
Direct Meter Readings
1802 lux peak (spot) @ 1m
746 lux peak (wide) @ 1m
Lightbox Readings (QUPS): I have done this test more times than I can count, with 3 sets of batteries (eneloops and alkalines) and I am getting two different sets of numbers from just a fraction of an inch difference in light position. I believe I am holding the light straight up and down and in the center of the milk carton light box, but it seems the smallest twitch changes the peak recording by about 35%. I have even tried attaching the light to a tripod center post, pointing straight down, to make sure the light is not tilted towards or away from the center of the light box. In that position I am getting the lower numbers similar to my initial testing. I need to make a new light box to tighter tolerances for small flashlights, I have tested some big lights with this one and the hole on the top is a bit large for smaller lights like this leaving room for error, which I think is what I'm experiencing now. So I present to you both sets of numbers that I am able to repeat, I'm not sure which are more accurate so don't hold me to them. If / when I get a new milk carton light box I will test again.
3711 lux peak (spot)
3994 lux peak (wide)
5960 lux peak (spot)
6008 lux peak (wide)
In the field experience: I took a bike ride last night with a Coleman Cree on one handlebar and a Duracell Daylight on my other handlebar. With them pointed equally at about 8 - 10 feet ahead of me I prefered the Duracell. Even though it is not as bright overall as the Coleman and has very little spill, the center bright spot on the Duracell is larger so covers more area with more light compared to a small bright spot with a large but dim spill.
Beamshots (at about 2' from wall):
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Wide (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Wide (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Wide (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Spot (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Spot (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
Fenix P1 (rcr123) - Duracell 2AA Spot (eneloop) - Coleman 2AA Cree (eneloop)
As for build quality it is neither bad nor great. Time will tell how well it will hold up to actual use, though in my case it is probably going to end up on my bike so won't be getting dropped or handled very often. The beam has rings in it at the spot setting which are noticable on walls but not really a problem in real world use, and at the wide setting the beam is pretty smooth all the way around. There is a noticable difference in the center spot size and brightness from the spot setting to the wide setting, though not as big as the meter readings above might make you think. In doing some medium distance testing (about 25') I can see that on spot there is a better concentration of light and it is a bit brighter than on the wide setting. At about 60' the light still does an ok job but is starting to struggle. Pointing it at the side of a building about 90' away I really couldn't tell if there was any more light on the building, maybe just a bit with the light set to spot. There is some ambient city light around me affecting this result, out in the wilds this light would likely be more effective at such distances. But don't buy this light expecting a lot of throw, as it just isn't there.
But that's ok with me...it works great on my bike and looks pretty cool too.
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