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Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

OK you want the bad news or the good news.
Here is both.
The majority 60% of the "C" cell units were sized to the OLD maglight.
It will be a few weeks before we get the NEW size.
So Those of you how have older "C" cell mags can go crazy modding them.
Sorry about the delay. BTW tis applies to those of you who have just been shipped "C" Cell O-Sinks. You have just received the wrong size.
Please contact me via PM and we will make arrangements to sort it out.
Yaesumofo
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

NEW update. I will be having the overstock of the old C size re-turned to the correct size.
This is good news. we will have all sizes. OLD "C" new "C" and D all in stock in large quantities.
Yaesumofo
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

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Since it is a turning (lathe) operation and not a milling operation I may have it (or enough to go on with) as early as teusday. I monday is pre-slated to be a
dental nightmare day for me, so not much will be done by me after that.
I will be taking parts down tommorow. I will report back when I know more.
Yaesumofo
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

OK fellas. All previous orders for all sizes of O-Sinks have gone out.
Some of you may have received O-Sinks that were the wrong size. Just let me know and we will sort it out at top speed.
Flashlightlens.com should by wednesday have all three sizes in stock and ready to ship in his so very speedy way.
Have no fear. All is well.
This latest batch of O-sinks are very well refined design wise subtle changes have been made that I think improve your ability to install and wire your emitters and then install the actual Sink into the unit.
Let us know how it goes guys.
Yaesumofo
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

It think everyone is so busy building they haven't had time to post. We've all been waiting for so time now. I've been seeing o-sinks selling for $15-$16 on some threads due to the shortage.

I just received my new "C" size o-sinks yesterday and finished two 3C M@g DD TWOJs last night. I promised these to co-workers some time ago. The o-sinks worked great - as usual. These are quite a bargain considering Hotlips sell for $14 each and don't have a self-centering ring.

Thank you Mr. Bulk for tipping me off to Yaesumofo's wonderful o-sink. Thank you Yaesumofo for your ingenuity and perseverance. Thank you Flashlight Lens for being the new and official distributor of the o-sink.

I'm going to go order some more now....
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

I just put one in a 2C mag with a nflex driver and a UX1K Lux III. I like it!!!
Chris
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Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

I just got an Old C sink from Flashlightlens. Came in 3 days. I haven't had a chance to install it yet. It sure looks good and seem to fit the light nicely.
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

Glad to hear of all the success out there. Having FlashlightLens be the sole retail channel for these things really benefits all of us. That was a no brainer. Takes a load off of my plate and really speeds up the shipping process to you guys. Don't forget to get a UCL while you are at it there is nothing like a nice piece of glass in front of a great LED. The O-Sink has had many subtle design changes over the past year or so that we have been making them. All for the better.
The choice to have Flashlightlens be the sole retail point of contact would not have been possible 6 months ago due to higher costs of manufacturing. I have it worked out now so the whole enterprise is self supporting. As modders we all benefit.

O-Sinks aren't what I would call a high profit item. As the cost manufacturing these stays low because I pay cash for them. I also, at least in the last run, have increased the number of units made. The O-Sink project is designed to maintain itself. I am not trying to make a living on these things( I would have to sell a lot more than I do). In terms of the price. The price is set to be competitive. I don't mind applying a bit of pricing pressure on the market. You may have noticed the benifits of this to all Mag modders recently with various special offers becomming available. $10.50 is the price because it is expensive to have this work done. I would like to charge $5.00 for these but if I did the system would collapse. Then we wouldn't have any O-Sinks.
In wouldn't surprise me if in the not so distant future we saw some packages available. I like the idea of getting everything I need at a fair price from one place delivered at the same time. We can always hope.
Yaesumofo
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

Just ordered a D O-Sink from flashlightlens.com - thought that the price was very reasonable and can't wait to get my hands on it! Thanks!
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

Thanks. Enjoy. I am sure that you will have a great result if past indicators maen anything. There are a bunch of mag mods based on these O-Sink heatsinks.
I am sure there wil be more to come.
BTW Anybody else looking forwared to the new K2 emitters as much as I am. Fianially somthing new to work with. I have said this before. I beleive we are at the tail end of pushing LUXIII's as far as they will go. Now we get to start all over with the K2.
Yaesumofo
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

yeasumofo: no, I think it's just you who is looking forward to the K2... I don't think anyone else cares... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

I'm waiting to see how it will stack up vs the typical LuxIII. If it's brighter at the same drive current, etc. In theory it should because of the improved die-slug interface keeping it cooler, thus more light..
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

not sure if Isaac is just kidding on that line.. there are definitely people looking forward to the K2 with great interest.. I can run three emitters for the exact power cost of 2 Lux3s.. and using the same source of specs (lumileds data sheet) to compare the 'nominal flux'.. my output will go from 160 lumen to between 225 and 300 lumen at the exact same power.

The true genius of the K2 is not a 'biggie' for a one at a time modder... but they will definitely reap the benefits.. one major one being that the combination of having a better thermal path AND a lower brightness to temp coefficient... looks like less than 1/2 the brightness loss associated with temperature.. where with the lux 3 de-rating to 'real world' means 80% of the output they claim.. but with the K2, the datasheet indicates that will be more like 90% if you only heat-sink on PCB.. but maybe more like 93% or more if you use a real heat sink. \

The average of lux 1, 3, V is about 20 lumen/watt, no matter if the drive current is high or low.. and while driven at max drive levels the K2 is rated just a little higher.. at lower drive levels it outputs over twice the nominal flux..

Oh. the other big deal with the K2.. alignment pins and machine solderable..and placeable.. means that designers of million quantities can choose Lumileds for their source... if they can keep up with demand, this should drive the price low... 'quantity discount'. Time will show on that one... CDs were supposed to do the same thing.. they started at $15-$20 20 yrs ago and they are the same price to the consumer even though production cost is now pennies.

-awr
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

Despite the pending arrival of the K2, I believe we'll be seeing Lux I, III, and V mods for several years to come. They all have a niche and a support base (like your o-sink). Additionally, I don't think Lumileds is finished with the Lux V. I expect to see them pumping out X, Y, and Z flux binned Lux Vs at the same rate as 26,000 mcds very soon. In fact, I'm very surprised we haven't seen more of the X bins already. Considering they first appeared almost two years ago, they're still very rare - and certainly not keeping up with the CPU market.

I recently built a custom heat sink for a 3AA Brinkman Legend. It was a stepped aluminum tube about 1/4" long that slid snuggly down the battery tube and fit flush on top (I should have taken a picture) so that when the head was tightened down all the way, the reflector was perfectly focused and you couldn't crush the emitter because it wouldn't tighten any further. When I finished, I thought to myself, "this would be much easier with a AA-sized o-sink - for AA MiniM@ags and AA Brinkmans. Whaddya think?
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

I agree that Lux3s aren't going to 'disappear'.. I think it would be good to have a single design that works with both the K2 and Lux3 though, that's what i would do for sure.. my design i'm working on has alignment pin holes for the K2 but it's backward compatible and works with L3/LV also

-awr
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

I will produce O-Sinks as long as the market supports the O-Sink. I will be adding to the O-Sink line a heat sink called the HEX sink which is designed for the K2 emitter. One product doesnt replace the other.

BTW I do not agree with the idea that the LUX III Emitter will continue to be produced by Lumileds. When wholesale channels are done with these, Lumileds will be done. Most companies do not spend the time and money to r and d, re-tool, and manufacture a new more efficient less expensive new product, only to continue to produce the old stuff. Nope the days of the lux I and III and probably the LUX V are most likely numbed. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see the LUX III manufacturing technology licensed to other companies to make LUX III like products.
Progress is a good thing.
Like I said have no fear the O-Sink and Hex sinks will be manufactured as long as the market supports them when you guys stop using them I'll stop making them. Yaesumofo
 
Re: C & D O-Sink unified thread

oh... lux3s won't be made anymore once K2s are in production.. but L3s will still be 'around'.. I also think that the 'cloned' L3s will make their way into the 'low cost' lights from china, so the K2 will be a good way to distance themselves (lumileds) from that, and have a distinct way to 'stand out'..

I was saying that it looks like you could just transition to making the new heat sink that would work with K3 and L3 so you won't have to make both.. just the way I'd do it.

-=awr
 

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