Germans hoarding Incands

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This made my day. Especially this quote regarding the upcoming EU ban on incans.

"It's unbelievable what is happening," says Werner Wiesner, the head of Megaman, a manufacturer of energy-saving bulbs. Wiesner recounts a story of how one of his field representatives recently saw a man in a hardware store with a shopping cart full of light bulbs of all types worth more than €200 ($285). "That's enough for the next 20 years."

I got enough to last 40 years...quite a few months back....probably filled 2 shopping carts at Home Despot. I told the lady I was having a party and needed all the bulbs.

In fact, in creating this legislation, the EU failed to address consumer preferences and the reservations of a number of other groups. For example, many have complained that the light emitted by a CFL bulb is colder and weaker and that its high-frequency flickering can cause headaches. Then there are complaints about the mercury the CFL bulbs contain, how there is no system for disposing of them in a convenient and environmentally friendly way, and how they allegedly result in exposure to radiation levels higher than allowed under international guidelines.

For some, the issue is also one of broken promises. For example, manufacturers of CFL bulbs justify their higher prices by claiming that they last much longer than traditional bulbs. But a recent test by the environmentally-oriented consumer-protection magazine Öko Test found that 16 of the 32 bulb types tested gave up the ghost after 6,000 hours of use -- or much earlier than their manufacturers had promised.

And then, of course, there's the issue of the light the bulbs emit. Many complain that the lights are just not bright enough and that they falsify colors. The Hamburger Kunsthalle, for example, recently made a bulk order for 600 incandescent light bulbs to make sure that it can keep illuminating the works it displays in the time-honored way.

Some smart Germans.
 
Haha...the ban backfiring!

The $5 tax on the bulbs is a much better way. That way it would actually force people to rethink their strategy rather than fight it.
 
Yeah, it's really stupid what is happening in this country. Just ban all standard-bulbs, no matter how often you use them. If you only have a bulb in a lumber-room, which is running maybe 10 Hours/Year, it's really worth to buy a energy-saving one for that...that's germany...
 
Wow...glad I live in the USA...we're not banning them...yet (fingers crossed). i bought the CSL bulbs for my house. Saw no real energy savings, and they're all burnt out now....:candle:
 
If you want fresh Australian incan bulbs just give me a buzz :devil:. I feel sorry for you guys. Are these still okay in Europe?
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They are halogen and a third more efficient.
 
If you want fresh Australian incan bulbs just give me a buzz :devil:. I feel sorry for you guys. Are these still okay in Europe?
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They are halogen and a third more efficient.

Haven't seen these here yet, looks nice...But i think that the voltage doesn't fit, we got 230V here...
 
Haven't seen these here yet, looks nice...But i think that the voltage doesn't fit, we got 230V here...

In AU we have 240V.........time to check out my local "light" store to see the latest in "Incan" bulbs is all about......and then get the credit card out......again.
 
@fichtenelch

You can get these bulbs here in every good shop they are from Osram called Energy Saver. They are ok, i use them for myself.
 
I don't blame them for wanting to stock up. I recently bought a pack of neutral temp CFLs and tried them in one room...they were returned the next day. :shakehead The just don't feel comfortable and the colors definitely seemed off.

If they ever ban them here in the US, I too am stocking up!

-Robert
 
@fichtenelch

You can get these bulbs here in every good shop they are from Osram called Energy Saver. They are ok, i use them for myself.

Haven't had a look for these, because i only got halogen in my appartment, all over...But since my brother is working @ Osram, it might be not too difficult to get these ;)
 
I'll do the same in the next days. No one tells me not to use incan bulbs if I want to. :mad:

Not that I use a lot of them anyway, but I really hate stupid crap like this. Count me in for the hoarding :D
 
While I use CFLs, there are problems not yet solved. Incans still make better sense for some uses.

1) Most of mine break way before they grow old. Incans cost only 25 cents to replace.

2) Obtaining a CFL with good color, lack of flicker, quick starting, low cost, durable construction, and long life, all together, is difficult. Buying a good incan is simple.

3) With the incredibly complex circuitry in CFLs, I've got to wonder about their real cradle to grave greenness.
 
In addition to incan hording, I think Germans ought to establish a yearly mercury festival in which local communities go toss their burned out CFL's into the middle of the street. They could then crunch the broken glass beneath their shoes as they dance to music and drink beer.....




now I'm in trouble :tinfoil:
 
this is so funny.

i can imagine some burgular breaking in someone's home and stealing the incan light bulbs along with the tv :p

i like the cfl for lightings that i never shut off in rooms. but for doing something(eating at the dining table, working at the office desk, cooking in the kitchen) i can only use the regular ican or halogens. cfl's definitely are no where the same and seem to loose contrast and i find it hard to focus. almost seems to glare objects.
plus i have digital dimmers switches in multiple locations and they are not compatible with cfl's(even the so called dimmable ones). i would hate to not be able to adjust my output.

i would go all incan but i did notice a huge drop in electricity by switching certain lights to cfl's. they have their purpose but should not be the only choice.
 
This is not only in Germany, all countries of the European Union are affected...
I live in the Netherlands and I just bought about TEN big cartons full of clear incandescent lamps of all kinds and Wattages.

I think a total of more than 500 candle-style lamps, more than 100 in 15W, more than 300 in 25W and about 100 in 40W to feed my chandeliers, a few ordinary ones (maybe 150 or so) and more than 10 of those enormous globes (120mm) to have in the lamp in the kitchen, above the table I eat at. Then all kinds of specialties like those ones with a silver "cap" on it (don't know how they are called in English) and some of those very long and slender 25W lamps by Osram, meant to light up paintings.
Oh, and 40 of those Osram "energy saving" halogen candles are also included. And many, many more... as I said, about 10 large boxes crammed full of incan bulbs. This supply may live longer than I do :)


Timmo.
 
In addition to incan hording, I think Germans ought to establish a yearly mercury festival in which local communities go toss their burned out CFL's into the middle of the street. They could then crunch the broken glass beneath their shoes as they dance to music and drink beer.....




now I'm in trouble :tinfoil:



???? I dont know this, sorry
 
CFLs are horrible. Poor life, color rendition and efficiency.

Warm 90 CRI T8 fluorescent bulbs on the other hand are way better.

Just use the tubes in places where the lights are going to be on for a long time and halogens everywhere else. :grin2:
 

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