Help me find daylight compact CFL's

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What are the best compact CFL bulbs out there and where would you buy them? I've checked out Wal-Mart and Home Depot here.

Wal-mart carries the color I want *daylight, 5000-6500K* but they are expensive at about $7 per 2 pack. Home Depot doesn't have any daylight bulbs at all here.

I'll have to check out K-Mart and Ace hardware, but beyond that, are there any brands online that are high quality?
 
What are the best compact CFL bulbs out there and where would you buy them? I've checked out Wal-Mart and Home Depot here.

Wal-mart carries the color I want *daylight, 5000-6500K* but they are expensive at about $7 per 2 pack. Home Depot doesn't have any daylight bulbs at all here.

I'll have to check out K-Mart and Ace hardware, but beyond that, are there any brands online that are high quality?

I've been buying 5000K CFL bulbs from these folks. Their prices seem pretty good, and they have a good selection. I have no affiliation with them. They are just cheap Chinese-made bulbs, but the few dozen I've tried so far have been reliable. I have tried a large range from 4W to 55W, all in 5000K color.

I prefer 5000K to 6500K, as to my eyes, 6500 degree light has an unpleasant bluish cast to it, while 5000 seems a very pure white. I wonder why 6500K seems to be the first CFL color temp. available in most stores besides the typical 2700-3000K "incandescent simulating" CFLs that have been common for years.
 
The Daylight lamps at my home depot are the N:Vision brand. They come in a blue package.

I have one in a desk lamp where I work.
 
I've been buying 5000K CFL bulbs from these folks. Their prices seem pretty good, and they have a good selection. I have no affiliation with them. They are just cheap Chinese-made bulbs, but the few dozen I've tried so far have been reliable. I have tried a large range from 4W to 55W, all in 5000K color.
I'll second that. I have had good results with this model in particular. I ordered some a little over a year ago for my apartment, and was very happy with them. They come on quick and at full brightness, have a nice color to them, and seem to be pretty good quality at a reasonable price. They are all still going strong today.
I recently got a new house, and ordered a new batch of 30 to replace all the bulbs in this house. I was pleasantly surprised to find that apparently the model has been updated. The originals I had were model FE-IIS-13W, and the new ones are FE-IISB-13W. The specs (13W, 820 lumens, 5000k) are the same, it just seems they changed the mfg process a bit. The picture shown on the site looks like the older revision. The differences with the new one are a thinner, tighter coil, which makes the overall size smaller than before(the whole bulb is in fact a little smaller than a standard 60W incandescent). The thin coil just looks a lot nicer, kinda hard to explain, less goopy. The color seems a little bit cooler than the older ones also. It looks more natural to my eyes. Very pleased once again. :)
 
You might try Bog Lots! - that's where I have found Lights of America CFLs for $2.00 or $3.00 each. These are great bulbs... looking at one of them I have here, it says it is 6500 Kelvin.

I have had some of these installed in my light fixtures for almost a year - no issues.

Good Luck,

James
 
The Home Depot here carries just one wattage of the soft white bulbs, K-Mart has a couple different ones at about $6-7 each, so I went with Wal-Mart since they had a fairly wide selection of wattages and color. Only somewhat bad thing is the 6500K color, but I like it much more than soft white, too bad they don't carry 5000K.
 
Only somewhat bad thing is the 6500K color, but I like it much more than soft white, too bad they don't carry 5000K.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer the 6500K bulbs. They are nearly white - or perhaps a bluish tint.

When I went looking for CFLs for my aunt, all I seemed to find was the harsh reddish hue, or orange hue CFLs. This type of light hurts the eyes. It strains my eyes to be in this type of light very long. (I finally found some blue-ish tint CFLs for her.)

I tend to relax - and so do my eyes - when the lighting has a more blue - or white - tint to it.

Regards,

James Jackson
 
You might try Bog Lots! - that's where I have found Lights of America CFLs for $2.00 or $3.00 each. These are great bulbs... looking at one of them I have here, it says it is 6500 Kelvin.

I have had some of these installed in my light fixtures for almost a year - no issues.

Good Luck,

James

Lights of America must have greatly improved their product because I have been using CFL's for more than 5 years and the first ones I bought were Lights of America (clearance at Wal-Mart for $1-1.50 each). The ballasts burned out after only a few days use. My local BL closed down for lack of customers. I probably will never buy that brand again especially since I can get GE 14/60w daily for $1.50 each.
 
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The Daylight lamps at my home depot are the N:Vision brand. They come in a blue package.

I have one in a desk lamp where I work.

I have seen those at HD but I just can't justify or plug the trigger for one bulb at that price. My local HD at one time carried the daylights in 4 pks but they apparently discontinued them for lagging sales. If I could find a 4 or 6 pak at $2 each (including shipping), I would try a pack.
 
IMHO, daylight looks best at higher intensities, although it's pretty good at VERY low intensities as well, but I agree, not for mood lighting, most atmospheric restaurants, etc, unless used for localized effect.

Note: All CFLs listed are Edison base unless noted, with the exception of some of the very largest, which are mogul, some of which are ballasted by the fixture, not the tube package. 277 Volt units are available in some of the larger sizes, and from TCP.

I agree with many of these posts. AFAIK, N:Vision are still made by Technical Consumer Products for HD. However, the apparently-exact-same 14W A-lamp CFL that TCP sells, is also available from Philips and Sylvania!!! There goes TCP originality that I thought it had. However, TCP is still a good brand; they tend to last their rated life or so if you don't abuse them (high ambient temps, etc).

TCP product can be ordered online from a variety of sites; google it. You often have to buy a case (12 or 24). There's even a 2W model available, in a couple form factors!! And 5100K, 4100K, 3500K, 3100K, and 2700K to boot! They also have a full spectrum model that actually is, CRI~90 or 92 (can't remember.) And some colored ones. (Feit has colored ones also.) (Feit also makes a 13w BLB spiral blacklight! Some other BLB CFLs at Spencer's and Nolico as well.)

I really seem to especially like the COLOR of the GE 6500K lamps from Wal-Mart and Target (pricier). They seem to be more neutral Daylight (on the Planckian, or near to it) than the TCP, which can often warm up to a greenish cast in the higher wattages.

Wal-Mart has a 10 W, 6500K very nice, neurtal Daylight 2-U tube Edison base CFL for aquariums. Hidden in the aquarium section. Made by LOA; very reliable.

Walgreens has several Feit Electric models in the 5800(?)K range, reasonably priced. Feit Daylights are also available from Nolico, inc. last I checked, and were 6,250K.

6400K PL-type lamps are commonly found. Wal Mart may still stock a model, in their novelty lighting section in Furniture.

8,800K, 10,000K, and 12,000K PL lamps are readily available online for reef aquarium use, but produce a very nice, pure white, cloudy-sky-like color, if you like that, which I do. Don't even have a reef aquarium! They're called "power compacts", and come up to 96 W! Actinic 03 available also in these. A violet, peak=420nm if good brand. Put a Rosco 349 Fischer Fuchsia gel in front and you cut out almost all the non-420nm light, while leaving 420 largely unscathed. You can see the "eye fish" swimming in your eyes. Probably blood. Even 445nm Royal Blue LED works for this. Some imposter Power Compact Actinic 03s are just regular blue.

Large Daylights are available as well, for High Bay lighting. Lots of 55, 65, 105, and etc. Watt, 5000K CFLs online. (pretty large in size.) and outdoor floodlighting, many of which are LOA, and I have had a few of these die. I don't install the large LOA units anymore (though they could have improved, for all I know.) Also, they run MUCH better with the cover OFF. 1.5X light output (yes, 1.5X!) and the light is neutral, rather than very greenish with the cover on. Draws more power from the ballast this way, but the ballast is cooled better as well. Put the cover back on if the temp falls much below 45 F or so, or output and efficiency suffer.

Lowe's has a Sylvania model at 5000K and now 6500K, but they're fairly pricey.

HD may get in the 14W four-packs again. I've found they have this little trick of doing a second rollout of certain product some months later. Note that the HD ones are TCP and 5500K.

LOA indeed HAS improved their quality over the years. 10 to 5 years ago, they were garbage. About half of them died long before their rated life. But their new 7W, 11W, and etc. available at Bog Lots does seem to be a good product, and the thin coils slightly increase the efficiency. If their lumen numbers are to be believed, they are probably the most efficient 7- and 11-watt sized Daylight CFLs out there. I have taken lux measurements and power readings of their inputs compared to other brands of similar size, and they are, indeed slightly more efficient than most, though you'd never notice it.

About 5 years ago, Bog Lots had a ~4100K lamp in various sizes made by "Sunbeam" (a cheap Chinese import.) They were complete garbage, esp. the larger sizes- ballasts died in months.

Gettin' L8. Gotta finish this up. :ironic: Cheers!
 
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I see Lowes home improvement stores carry a Sylvania daylight 6500K in the twist style CFL. If I had extra money, I would have bought one. I've not seen that color temp in CFL before. I think it was under $5
 
Ditto on the 1000bulbs.com. I have used them for about 6 years and it is the only place I buy CFL's from for the most part. Initially, they were the only place you could get 2 watt units from. I used those in lamps around the house controlled by X-10 for night lighting (kids and especially wife's grandma that lived with us). I used the 6500K ones because they just lit up the place better than the warmer ones. Or let's just say the higher color temp made it seem brighter than the other bulbs.

Let me add my two cents on the "cheap" lights. Everyone of the bulbs I originally got a Home Depot I think in 2000 failed by melting and blackening some part of the base. The reason you knew one finally blew was it would smell like an electrical appliance was overheating or burning up. You then went around the house smelling lighting fixtures!!

I now buy Litetronic's MicroBrites from 1000bulbs.com whenever possible mainly because of projected 25,000 hour life. I got tired of the cheap lights and am trying these MicroBrites out. So far the two I have running as night lights (5pm-8am) have not had any issues and I believe I am on year 4 on them.

Bob E.
 
Since you said "the best" CFL bulbs I want to put some good info in this thread for the right person searching for "best".

This is a pricey way to go... but it's the real answer for the word "best".

Sunalux makes some very nice 5600k bulbs. BlueMax used to make some great 5500k bulbs... but they changed suppliers and now the bulbs they sell 'aint so great... and that pretty much leaves us with Sunalux.

One of the major issues of light quality is CRI... CRI is color rendering index. This means how "accurate" is the light? Much like a song can sound totally different on various sound systems... or be altered with an equalizer that pumps or dumps certain frequencies... light bulbs each have a similar signature on the lighting spectrum.

Daylight is 100... which means that if you want to know what color(s) something really is... you can take it outside and see "perfection". Cheap lights have a CRI in the high 70's to very low 80's. Check the CRI on those "daylight" bulbs from Walmart, etc. In terms of "best" they 'aint that great. A low 90's to mid-90's CRI bulb will cost you at least $12 each... but they will last a LONG time... (I find the cheap Walmart bulbs to not live up to their rated life.)... and the high CRI bulbs will do what you want. They will actually look like daylight in the home.

5500-5600k is "real" daylight. Above 6000k and you will have a cold, blue cast... below 4500k and you will begin to see a pink-ish cast. 5600k is the bullseye.

I don't expect people to be excited about paying $12+ per bulb... but somebody will find this thread who is genuinely looking for the best daylight CFL... and I wanted them to have an answer.:)
 
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