HID mag (mac need help plz)

[65535]

So I have decided my funds are going towards taking my 4D mag and making it a 10 watt HID similar to macs customs but in a 4D body for super runtime on 12AA's and medium weight (obviously slightly lighter than a set of 4 D's this should give my batteries about 31 watts so imagine 3 hours or rechargability in 10 watt hid about 500 bulb lumens. So maybe this is a good question for mac,

whats a good reflector for the Solarc lamp? and am i missing anything

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3 1d-4aa battery carriers (I can charge up to 10 batteries in a set with my high current charger no more)

12 2500mah AA batteries via cheap battery packs

modifidy springs and cut down switch assembly

new switch I assume thei ballast is the best what do you put in your mni HID?

 

[65535]

Just had a though shoudl this be moved to customs?

 

[cmacclel]

First off with 12 cells you will need the higher voltage ballast than what we normally use. Ballast B10N003 is for 14.1-14.5v operation.

The reflector to use depends on what type of beam your going after. For all all throw use a smooth reflector for a more floody beam a light stipple is best. Also the reflector has to be opened up to at least .525 to fit the lamp.

Mac

 

[btruong]

This may be a stupid question but can you wire two 10 watt ballasts - assuming each had a supply sufficient to sustain the required input voltage - in parallel?

Assuming the supply batteries for each ballast had an ability to deliver X volts at Y current for 1 hour, I think of a ballast as something that would convert the supply's X volts at Y amps to X*4 volts at Y/4 amps for 1 hour. Is that remotely correct?

And if you wired two of those ballasts together in parallel (again, assuming each had a sufficient supply), would you get X*4 volts at Y/2 amps for 1 hour? And therefore be able to power a HID lightbulb at twice the wattage? ~20W in this case?

Would one ballast muck with the other one and interfere with operations? Do ballasts normally require a certain load impedence to make sure maximum power is delivered?

Thanks.

 

[65535]

Well they sell a 19watt ballast but the 10 watt ballast and bulb are mating so the ballast acts as a socket the 19 watt is just a module without a bulb holder.

Mac I want a throw beam but not at the cost of a smooth beam I think that this bulb would prudce a nice white solid artifact free beam is that the case?

 

[Ra]

BTRUONG,

I think that is not quite a wise plan:

These are stand-alone electronics that want to 'feel' a HID-bulb attached (non-conducting) They definitely do not want to feel another ballast that tries to pump in a mere 6 kilovolts of ignition pulse !!!

But..... I could be wrong....

And: There are 21watt solutions aviable..

And: If your goal is to overdrive a 10watt HID with 20watts of power, your bulb will definitely not survive this !!


Regards,

Ra.

 

[wulfgang]

This may be a stupid question but can you wire two 10 watt ballasts - assuming each had a supply sufficient to sustain the required input voltage - in parallel?

NO! The only way to get a parallel setup is to drive both output stages from the same controller. Since each ballast has its own controller, you'll inevitably end up shorting the supply rail, which will melt a FET.

It may be possible to overdrive the ballast to 20W, but since I am not familiar with the Welch Allyn specs, I do not know if that is a sane idea.

 

[65535]

I think the best option is a 10 watt round ballast base with a copper or aluminum ring with thin insulation to prevent shorting screwed into the mag body, then use the standard 10 watt bulb, they sell 21 watt bulbs and 25 or 19 watt ballasts but the ballasts are stand alone no bulb fixture. and the bulbs are about 3 time mor emoney. Question still pending for mac.

 

[cmacclel]

Well they sell a 19watt ballast but the 10 watt ballast and bulb are mating so the ballast acts as a socket the 19 watt is just a module without a bulb holder.

Mac I want a throw beam but not at the cost of a smooth beam I think that this bulb would prudce a nice white solid artifact free beam is that the case?

If you want an artifact free beem you would need medium stipple. This cuts the throw in half.

Mac

 

[65535]

I think I will take my throw over artifact free at this time. Probably buy a different one when they come out. Updated first thread for 3D with 4 cell carrier I won't need to have it quadbored will I?

 

[cmacclel]

I think I will take my throw over artifact free at this time. Probably buy a different one when they come out. Updated first thread for 3D with 4 cell carrier I won't need to have it quadbored will I?

Yes it will beed to be bored or quad bored if you plan on using bigger than 1800Mah cells.

Mac

 

[65535]

No chance of fitting 4AA's in a holder? O well i can make my own small custom packs no biggy. Cheaper I suppose. Well 4 2500mah's wont fit like you said so can you bore me out a mag 3D if I send you a battery pack (custom made by myself) that will fit nice and tight but slides freely? I don't know if you could also throw it onto a platter for HA ing. But for now how much would it cost me for you to bore it to fit a supplied 4 AA battery pack or square it with rounded corners the battery packs will be square. All I need is it to be bored. And you like to uby the light and machine it then send the finished product not me send you a light correct?

 

[65535]

Ok so it is going to have to be a bored out body and a bored out top in order to fit the ballast. Mac can you do it if I send you so specs. I also need a couple retention rings made, which will have 3 sec screws wih hard points that ar ehorizontal to brace the ballast. Can you do this kidn of stuff for me mac?

 

[65535]

Hmm I had a breakthrough Idea Use a tribored 2D mag to accept a total of 6 18650 cells (3s2p) This should yield a 6 hour runtime on LG? 2600 mah cells. Hope either mac (also will have a nice duracaot finish) or Mirage man (no duracoat ) can do the boring and small part making. That idea didn't work But I am currently using Google SKetchup to make a scale model of my perposed flashlight. using 6 2600 mah lithium ion cells (chances are this will stay a sketch until someone is willing to pay for it to be machined and made for themselves it will be a custom one-off type of deal.

 

[ryball]

Where are you guys getting the ballasts?

 

[65535]

walamps.com both bulb and ballast.