I hope this guy get's a lot of money

[markdi]

I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

I hope these cop's loose their job's and shirts.

I was beat up by 2 cop's who thought I was some one else
and I did not resist at all.

I wish I had been older and smarter I should have sued them.

police are a nessasry evil in my opinion.

I have 2 friends who are cop's.

the stories they tell me.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002422837_webcopscase05.html]web page[/url]

I also think the tv show cops should be banned

cops are paid to do their jobs - not ham it up for the camera and be tv stars.



producer at Santa Monica, Calif.-based Langley Productions Inc., which created "Cops," said he could not confirm whether the episode ever aired, but Lakewood Police Lt. Bret Farrar said he had seen it on television. He declined to comment on the arrest.

The lawsuit seeks damages as well as an injunction prohibiting the police agencies from associating with "Cops" or similar TV programs again.

 

[dano]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

I've seen that episode.

The guy in the sleeping bag started a decent fight w/the two Deputies, after they ID'd themselves, etc. The K9 chews on his ankle for a few minutes, and the guy continues to fight.

From what I saw, it was an entirely lawful detention and appropriate use-of-force.

The individual will be paid the standard nuisance lawsuit payoff, which is usually 30-60 thousand.

-dan

 

[turbodog]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

I'd be curious to know if the "perp" was properly engaged to begin with though.

I mean, how many people would hide (asleep) in plain view in a sleeping bag?

How good of a look at his face did they get before they decided to pummel him?

Why was a dog used when apparently the guy was contained in a sleeping bag? I would think a dog's primary use would be to stop a fleeing person.

 

[dano]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

They hide everywhere, and it's irrelevent to the situation.

He wasn't pummeled, at all. It was more of a wrestling match, with the suspect kicking and flailing at the two Deputies.

-dan

 

[Wolfen]

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[raggie33]

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id be a lousy cop from watching the show cops i would of shot a lot of them idiots.come after me with a knife i shot you.man there is no way i would have the paintace to be a cop to many idiots out there

 

[Sigman]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

It certainly takes a special person to be a police officer! It seems that human nature would make it easy to "slip", start stereotyping, and treat some folks the wrong way.

One has to be sharp witted and able to analyze a "situation or person" pretty quickly. No doubt a very dangerous profession! I'm not sure I could do it!

I respect those who deserve it!!

 

[Lightraven]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

How to get the job done with a minimum of force requires some street psychology and the proper mindset. Even if you do use force, the way you handle the arrestee before and after can determine his desire to make allegations or simply shake your hand and thank you. Calm professionalism makes a world of difference and gains you a lot of respect. Punching a guy who is handcuffed and doing what he is told (as a coworker of mine did) is a quick trip to a desk job.

 

[wmpwi]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

I will grant that in any job, there will be some individuals that would be better suited elsewhere, but I think it might be best left that you recognize that cops are necessary rather than "a necessary evil."

 

[FlashlightOCD]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

I think there is a significant amount of psych screening done these days to help prevent power trip seeking individuals from getting into the force, but I'm sure some slip through.

But I still wonder why anyone would want to do this as a profession, my conclusion [after power trip screening]:

1) They genuinely want to help society.
2) They are purely adrenalin driven.
3) Both of the above.

In any case I am thankful they are there, but as in any profession there are a few bad apples.

The TV show "Cops" is entertainment and does not show a typical day in a real officers life. I was stuck behind a traffic accident involving an overturned semi truck for half an hour, the three motorcylcle cops bored out of their minds sitting there in the 95 degree FL sunshine did not seem like they were "TV COPS" material.

 

[markdi]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

Cops trick lad with Downs Syndrome

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005360285,00.html


sex on duty

http://www.hdonline.com/2005/August/04/LNtop1.htm

 

[greenlight]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

too many apostrophes

 

[Former_Mag_User]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

The guy sleeping would not show the officers his hands therefore, I do NOT think the officers could have resolved the situation with less force AND properly protect themselves from a potentially dangerous situation.

I am not aware of any agency who (1) Teaches cops how to read minds of suspects to disover their mind set and intentions and, (2) Cops are not issued crystal balls to casually gaze into the future to be one step ahead of the suspect.

markdi, you seem to have a problem with all Police Officers. When the only Officers you should be angry at are the ones you say assaulted you.

There are 9,000 officers here in Los Angeles. I have great respect for each and every one of them. I have met a large number of them in person and they have all been intelligent, rational men and women.

Just because you had a bad experince with a couple of cops does not mean you should bash all of the Great Officers out there.

All of the bad stuff is on the news. Does the news report when the police do postive things, no. Why? Because it doesn't sell newspapers...

 

[Robocop]

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The biggest thing most people do not realize is that it is not the show "COPS" that makes things go badly as all officers are usually on their best behavior when being filmed. I mean think about it for a moment...if you know you are being watched would you intentionally abuse a suspect?

As far as abuse goes I will honestly say that I have never experienced any officers I work with simply beating up someone for the heck of it. There are often many uses of force and every time it is the suspect who causes it. It may not be obvious to the typical person watching however most cops have reasons for the level of force used.

It takes one split second of hesitation for an officer to lose their life and personally that is not a chance I am willing to take. I have had friends killed and assaulted while on duty. In some cases it was simply due to the officer not reacting swiftly to certain danger signs.

I will tell anyone who asks that in a dangerous situation such as a search for an armed and dangerous man that anyone I come across may be a suspect. I can not afford to ask myself if this may be the man I am searching for all I know is that he is in the area and may harm me if I let him.
Now having said that I will say that if at any time the suspect does not do exactly what I ask then I will consider this a sign of aggression. This will be dealt with harshly and swiftly as I truly wish to go home each night alive.
I may be speaking with an innocent man who is in the wrong place at the wrong time however I truly do not care at this point. My first need is to secure his hands and then sort out all the remaining details.

I recently had a situation where a man was arrested on some misdemeanor charge of Disorderly Conduct. This happened in front of a large crowd of people. I calmly asked the man to place his hands behind his back. He refused and I then grabbed his arm in an arm lock and applied pressure. I then observed the suspect make a fist with his other free hand and slowly bring it up towards my chest. This was viewed by myself as a real danger and I now forced the suspect to the ground very quicky and his body made a very loud "thud" on impact.
To all the people there it must have looked like I "slammed" this guy for no reason. I heard all kinds of comments in the background like "that officer did not have to do that" and "police are always hurting folks"
To this I will say what am I to do then...wait until this guy starts swinging? I for one will not hesitate to hurt someone at the first sign that they may hurt me. To all the others who think otherwise I say do not judge until you have been on this side. Most people have no idea of an officers job. We are always under a microscope with so many cowards thinking we should do our jobs different. How many other people have had co-workers shot in the face because they let their guard down for a moment. If you see enough of this each day you too would react harshly when a suspect does not show his hands when asked to do so.

The way I understand this story was that the suspect was inside a sleeping bag. I do believe that a person could hide all sorts of weapons inside a large sleeping bag. To most people it would seem he was not dangerous if inside this bag...to an officer he is very dangerous as he may have an assault rifle tucked inside. Once again I have seen officers shot and killed by a little old man laying under a blanket on a bed. If you do not see the hands you are in danger and if you have to react then you react and worry about the rest later.

To sum it all up the name of the game in police work is to go home each night to your family. Many will try to deny an officer that liberty and yes even take their life. If a few people get their feelings hurt as a result of an officer trying to go home alive....well then to them I would say get over it or go do the job yourself and quit whining.

I hope to not offend anyone here with this however it is a sore place with me at times. I have been to far too many funerals of these heros I work with and hope to never attend another. Even after the death of 3 of my Co-workers recently I still heard comments from citizens talking about their death. Many people were heard to say things like "well those cops must have been bad ones to get ambushed like that" or "well if they would not have been harassing those drug dealers that would not have happened"
Long story short many have died in my line of work and at times their deaths seem to be for nothing more than some comments from people who know nothing of their work nor of the men they were.
I know some cops are low down or even just wrong at times however I will always give the benefit of the doubt and never judge what I think I see or hear on the news.

I feel much better now.....just got off from work so I was maybe a little stressed...hehe

 

[Robocop]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

And I also want to say thanks to you Former Mag User for those good comments above. The crystal ball thing was a good way to relate this situation. It does me well to know some are like yourself and have some positive thoughts for police officers...thanks again

 

[Lightraven]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

The other day, I'm standing in line in Starbucks, on duty, when a woman pulls me away to help her find her lost daughter. The woman is frantic and difficult to talk to. After talking to various bystanders, I learn that the little girl has been "collected" by mall management or security. I escort the mother to the management office where she sees her daughter and husband and is relieved. I leave to get back to work, skipping Starbucks.

Today, I had to use pepper spray in an attempt to arrest a guy who was resisting. He had to be slammed to the ground by my supervisor when the pepper spray had no effect.

I spoke to the guy respectfully after that (although I used some choice phrases during the foot chase /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif) and he wasn't a problem and didn't want to file any complaints. I had to fill out a report justifying my use of pepper spray.

I've also learned that yet another one of my former "colleagues" is corrupt and was imprisoned.

 

[Empath]

Re: I hope this guy get\'s a lot of money

The apparent start of this thread was to point out a particular event, along with Mark's opinion that they ham it up for the TV camera. While that opinion may or may not be defensible, his follow-up posting was made up of links to indicate corruption in general. Even though a link to bizarre news type tabloids needs to be viewed tongue-in-cheek, it's inclusion makes clear the intent to lead this thread into a need for our LEO members to defend their integrity.

We don't intend to push our respected LEO members into unnecessarily defending their service, nor their personal and profession's integrity.

Thread closed.