Looking for small H.I.D. with serious throw!

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I currently own a Wolf Eyes 10W 123X H.I.D. I like the smaller compact size of this light, but need more throw. Can anyone suggest a small H.I.D. with super throw?
 
Microfire and Wolfeyes still seem make the smallest HID lights but they all have OP reflectors. To get more throw you'll either need to get a light with more power, a light with a smoother reflector, or both. When you increase power it normally means a larger battery and therefore a larger light. There's no free ride. The question is, what size light is still going to be acceptable?

A couple of suggestions:

The AE lights all have very good reflectors and narrow beams. The Xe20W is still relatively compact but will produce more light and throw farther than what you're currently using.

If you absolutely have to keep it tiny, then I'd suggest the Mac's mini or mini-mini HID. They're small but will have great throw due to the high quality electrical components and more obviously,the excellent reflector.

The other small light pick would be the Jil Eznite 10W hid. These also have many of the features that a custom has including the best electrical components and the best reflector available. The light body has some awesome machining and the beam can be collimated by the user of optimum throw.

Of these lights the 20W will provide the most impressive output and throw will the other two will still be a big upgrade from what you're using now.

Good luck.
 
Microfire and Wolfeyes still seem make the smallest HID lights but they all have OP reflectors. To get more throw you'll either need to get a light with more power, a light with a smoother reflector, or both. When you increase power it normally means a larger battery and therefore a larger light. There's no free ride. The question is, what size light is still going to be acceptable?

A couple of suggestions:

The AE lights all have very good reflectors and narrow beams. The Xe20W is still relatively compact but will produce more light and throw farther than what you're currently using.

If you absolutely have to keep it tiny, then I'd suggest the Mac's mini or mini-mini HID. They're small but will have great throw due to the high quality electrical components and more obviously,the excellent reflector.

The other small light pick would be the Jil Eznite 10W hid. These also have many of the features that a custom has including the best electrical components and the best reflector available. The light body has some awesome machining and the beam can be collimated by the user of optimum throw.

Of these lights the 20W will provide the most impressive output and throw will the other two will still be a big upgrade from what you're using now.

Good luck.


I would like the H.I.D. to be smaller than my Wolf Eyes 10W 123X. I saw the Mac's Mini, which looks quite nice, but i'm not sure if this unit is still available. Do you have any other suggestions on mini H.I.D.'s preferably with a smooth reflector?
 
I would like the H.I.D. to be smaller than my Wolf Eyes 10W 123X. I saw the Mac's Mini, which looks quite nice, but i'm not sure if this unit is still available. Do you have any other suggestions on mini H.I.D.'s preferably with a smooth reflector?


Yes, the Jil Eznite was the other one. The poster after me also mentioned it and provided a link. Because of the size of light and requirement for a smooth reflector you've pretty much limited yourself to one of these two lights, which is fine because they're the best.

Microfire makes a series of smaller 10W HID's called the Terminator series, https://www.fenix-store.com/index.php?cPath=63

but they're not up to the quality standards of a Mac's mini or the Jil Eznite. Unfortunately the both of these lights are a little difficult to get a hold of. You'd have to watch the CPF Market Place and keep an eye on the Customs and Mods forum to find one. You might also send CPF member BVH a PM and see if he is still interested in selling his Eznite. He made mention of it a while back.
 
I'd like to see more compact sized HID's. Unfortunately, it seems like right now the money is in crappy little LED lights with their pathetic blue output and not in R&D for handheld HID's. I'd love a mini with 4200K output, but at this point it seems like we're lucky to see any at all. :sick2:
 
Well, there are many warm LEDs now and many of them are less blue than the Solarc or even my AE lights....but I get your point that you'd like to see more Compact HID light choices. I would also :)
 
Andy, if BVH isn't interested in selling his EZnite, I think I may have found another. Just PM me or post here.








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I'm interested in selling but was waiting for the replacement collimating screws to arrive. PM sent to Andy.
 
I'd like to see more compact sized HID's. Unfortunately, it seems like right now the money is in crappy little LED lights with their pathetic blue output and not in R&D for handheld HID's. I'd love a mini with 4200K output, but at this point it seems like we're lucky to see any at all. :sick2:

I dont think LED is crappy at all and not necessary blue. Nichia has an extreme CRI LED, i read about it at CPF somewhere...
 
I wont argue against the throwing power of HID-lights.

But look at a hid spectrum, and seriously argue against the colour rendition of leds afterwards...
 
EDIT. post removed after seeing the color temp of the new Cree.
 
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Thanks guys for all your help! I'm reading up on the Mac's mini and Jil Eznite, as these seem to be my best options. I'm leaning towards the Mac's mini as i understand that the head of the Eznite is fragile.
 
Fragile head? Yup, if you drop it. I'm going to get back on my project and get a bumper up front that'll solve the fragility issue. I just try to make sure I don't drop any light---more than I have to!:devil:



Karl
 
For years I've been using leds and incan at work at night and I still say they're crappy. :laughing:

I was using an R2 Cree dropin for a few months and just got so frustrated with the weak ghostly blue output (compared to incan) I sold it.

Anyways back on topic,

4200K handheld HID!!
 
Thanks guys for all your help! I'm reading up on the Mac's mini and Jil Eznite, as these seem to be my best options. I'm leaning towards the Mac's mini as i understand that the head of the Eznite is fragile.

If you look at a Mac mini, I highly recommend some of the Pachmayr "Pac-Skin" in 5 x 20 size--perfect fit for MagD. Otherwise those little suckers are sometimes hard to hold onto....not to mention the comfort temp in cold winters.
 
If you look at a Mac mini, I highly recommend some of the Pachmayr "Pac-Skin" in 5 x 20 size--perfect fit for MagD. Otherwise those little suckers are sometimes hard to hold onto....not to mention the comfort temp in cold winters.

Hey thanks for the link. I've been using skateboard tape for years. :eek:

I didn't even know they made that.
 
Yes, the Jil Eznite was the other one. The poster after me also mentioned it and provided a link. Because of the size of light and requirement for a smooth reflector you've pretty much limited yourself to one of these two lights, which is fine because they're the best.

Microfire makes a series of smaller 10W HID's called the Terminator series, https://www.fenix-store.com/index.php?cPath=63

but they're not up to the quality standards of a Mac's mini or the Jil Eznite. Unfortunately the both of these lights are a little difficult to get a hold of. You'd have to watch the CPF Market Place and keep an eye on the Customs and Mods forum to find one. You might also send CPF member BVH a PM and see if he is still interested in selling his Eznite. He made mention of it a while back.

Hi Patriot 36,

After reading this string and researching the Jil Eznite, I found a couple of sources in Korea which will sell it using Paypal and will EMS to the US. I'm not sure of the rules here about giving e-mail addresses of such sources (though I know I've seen some) and since I don't want to earn the wrath of the moderator, I'll just offer to answer pms if anyone wants the addresses.

From what I've read it looks as though the Eznite should meet my perceived requirements for size and throw better than anything else I've found. The makers seem to be a bit proud of it ($400 to $475 apparently), but not nearly as bad as the established flamethrowers ($2500 etc). I've ordered one and it should be here by the end of the week.

Am I going to kick myself when it gets here?
 
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