MAGLite 6D-Cell (Krypton vs. Xenon Lamp)??

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the krypton lamp is 162lumens
the Xenon lamp is 233lumens

Do you think there is a real diff? Is this a legit lm number for the xenon lamp?



thanks.:)
 
i have a 6d cell mag with Xenon Lamp....and when i compare it to my mag charger rated 190lm with standard bulb it is ever so slighty brighter...i would guess 10-20lms
 
Oh yes, the difference is quite visible to the naked eye. In both brightness and colour.

My theory on the seemingly exaggerated bulb-lumens figure is that they are obtained with a 9V power supply, not the 7.2V-less-wiring-and-switch-losses you see in a real torch.

Working backwards from that assumption, I reckon you will see about 92 bulb lumens out of the LWSA601 Krypton and 132 from the LMSA601 Xenon.

A worthwhile lift.
 
the Xenon is great. :twothumbs


Xenon 6Dcell vs Krypton 6Dcell (Both Mags running off fresh Duracell alkaline)



Much whiter & brighter.
 
i wonder how the 6d xenon will stack up against the 5d krypton with 6 alkaline cells and with 6 d nimh cells.
 
I also have a 6d maglite with a 5d krypton bulb with 6 duraloop nimhs in 6 aa to d nexcell adapters. I would possibly like to get 6 11,000 mah titanium nimh d cells for it. I already have a maha 808m charger, so i thought what the heck and get some hi cap nimhs for it.
 
Yes, the 6D Xenon is a good bulb.

I have both a 6D and a 6C, each with this bulb, both running NiCads. I have other torches, both brighter and smaller, but the 6-cell Maglites are a joy to own and use.
 
The Xenon lamp is the newer bulb that supersedes the older Krypton design, but for whatever reason, Mag continues to sell Krypton models right alongside the Xenon ones at any given Maglite display. Regardless, if you're dead set on using a stock Mag bulb, make sure yours/your replacement is a Xenon.
 
Try finding the xenon bulbs retail some time. Nobody seems to like to stock them, especially 5 and 6 cell ones.
 
I have one of these and 6D Mags and am wondering if there are any LED mods that are a reasonable price that improve brightness? The one I have now is stock and while it looks cool it could be brighter.
 
I have one of these and 6D Mags and am wondering if there are any LED mods that are a reasonable price that improve brightness?

The LED drop-in that I use in my Mag is the TerraLUX TLE-300; ~600 lumens at the emitter for $70:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/tle-300.html

It's essentially just three LEDs, each with its own optic, all in a self-contained drop-in puck with all the necessary circuitry. It's a minimal difficulty install, you remove the stock Mag reflector and bulb, put the TLE-300 in the socket, done.

Optic lenses mean *serious throw* and the TLE-300 doesn't disappoint, projecting a big fat hotspot with no corona or spill to speak of. You lose the Mag's focusing ability, but when you've got a glaring hotspot that's over two feet across from only ten feet away, you don't need it. The only con is that the hotspot looks a bit like a round, multi-pointed star (the optics to some degree project the square shape of the LEDs) but in normal use, especially outdoors, you don't notice it.

I mainly use my TLE-300 Mag on night walks down our suburb street to the area mailbox. Any time a car drives by going the same direction, it's a perfect side-by-side comparison of light output, and you can't miss it - the Mag is putting out just as much light as the car (the cars don't miss it either, as they usually slow down). It's still impressive every time I see it.

The TLE-300 is my fave Mag drop-in based on its ease of install, use of standard batteries, and good old "damn that's bright"-ness. I've always liked the idea of an LED hotwire/ROP that doesn't require any modding, and this certainly fills the bill.

If $70 is too rich for your blood, there's there TerraLUX TLE-6EX, 150 lumens for $23, which is only about as bright as your stock 6D Mag, but it maintains steady output for over 20 hours. This one keeps the reflector and focusing ability, as it's just a bulb replacement. Not nearly as bright as the TLE-300, but very pragmatic. http://www.batteryjunction.com/tle-6k2.html
 
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The LED drop-in that I use in my Mag is the TerraLUX TLE-300; ~600 lumens at the emitter for $70:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/tle-300.html

It's essentially just three LEDs, each with its own optic, all in a self-contained drop-in puck with all the necessary circuitry. It's a minimal difficulty install, you remove the stock Mag reflector and bulb, put the TLE-300 in the socket, done.

Optic lenses mean *serious throw* and the TLE-300 doesn't disappoint, projecting a big fat hotspot with no corona or spill to speak of. You lose the Mag's focusing ability, but when you've got a glaring hotspot that's over two feet across from only ten feet away, you don't need it. The only con is that the hotspot looks a bit like a round, multi-pointed star (the optics to some degree project the square shape of the LEDs) but in normal use, especially outdoors, you don't notice it.

I mainly use my TLE-300 Mag on night walks down our suburb street to the area mailbox. Any time a car drives by going the same direction, it's a perfect side-by-side comparison of light output, and you can't miss it - the Mag is putting out just as much light as the car (the cars don't miss it either, as they usually slow down). It's still impressive every time I see it.

The TLE-300 is my fave Mag drop-in based on its ease of install, use of standard batteries, and good old "damn that's bright"-ness. I've always liked the idea of an LED hotwire/ROP that doesn't require any modding, and this certainly fills the bill.

If $70 is too rich for your blood, there's there TerraLUX TLE-6EX, 150 lumens for $23, which is only about as bright as your stock 6D Mag, but it maintains steady output for over 20 hours. This one keeps the reflector and focusing ability, as it's just a bulb replacement. Not nearly as bright as the TLE-300, but very pragmatic. http://www.batteryjunction.com/tle-6k2.html

Thanks for the reply. Ya thats more than I want to spend. I think I might just stay stock for now and grab something else that I can mod. I am a college student after all.
 
I don't know if this applies to the 6 cell bulbs, but I know that the 4 cell Xenon bulb is 50% brighter than the Krypton bulb with about the same runtime. Xenon bulbs are more efficient than Krypton bulbs. By the way, I think Fry's Electronics carries 5 and 6D Mags.
 
hi this is a fun thread I would just like to say that I am very pleased with a 2D > 6AA mod running a 4D Xenon lamp... Ooh it's bright.

I have been fluffing around with the 5761 currently ran on 9AA enloops! nice bright but for the effort nahh not as rewarding as the simple mod's mentioned above.

Could somebody please tell me about... 3D > 8AA running a 6D Xenon lamp? I think that would smash my 5761 not in lumens but in useable visable brightness. I love the fact that overdriving a PR flange bulb also means the use of the original Mag reflector which seems to present a much tighter hot spot.

I know nothing :shakehead so please advise, what is the highest voltage PR flange type bulb that I could use in a Mag body no modding needed. The bigger & brighter the better I intend to give them away as gifts so no technical expertise is needed to replace the bulbs.

Thanks guy's
 
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