Newbie looking for a camping/EDC light

brianxix

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Hi Guys. My wife recently lost my Fenix TK-15, and now I find myself in the need for a new light. I was using the TK-15 for camping and every day stuff. So I'm looking for a replacement that can be used for camping/night hiking etc, and for around the house. I would like it to be waterproof, reliable, bright, and have a good amount of run time. I'm looking to spend $75- $100 Thank You
1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light in person from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
___x_This will be mail-order or Online (location doesn't matter).


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :)

____I don't know yet
____Up to $25.
____Up to $50.
__x__Up to $100.
____Up to $200.
____Up to $300.
____Essentially unlimited.


3) Format:

____I am not sure, please help me decide.
__x__I want a flashlight (hand held/self contained).
____I want a self-contained headlamp.
____I want a headlamp with an external pack/power source.
____I want a mounted light (typically for a bicycle or vehicle)
____I want a lantern/area light.
____I want a portable spotlight (it may have an external power source).
____Other ____________________________________________


4) Size:

____MICRO - Keychain size.
____TINY - Every day carry (2-4 inches).
___x_SMALL - Every day carry (4-7 inches).
__x__MEDIUM - Holster/belt ring carry. (>7 inches)
____LARGE - Big enough to need its own travel case.
____I don't know/I don't care.


5) Emitter/Light source:

__x__LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
____I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

__x__I want to buy a light from a large/traditional manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
____I would like a light from a specialty manufacturer (Possibly limited run/Custom).
____I am interested in assembling my own components. (for example a "host" or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a "drop-in" emitter from another source).


7) What power source do you want to use?

___x_I intend to use "Primary"/Disposable Alkaline batteries based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D sized cells common to most stores.
___x_I intend to use "Primary"/Disposable Lithium batteries based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D and CR123 sized cells common to most stores (often a cold weather or long storage choice).
____I intend to use Rechargeable cells (NiMH or NiCD) based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D sized cells common to most stores.
____I intend to use Rechargeable cells based on less common formats (18500 or 18650 Li-Ion, RCR123, et-al).
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery pack.
____I don't know/I need more information on power sources.

7a) If you have selected a rechargeable option
____I want a light that plugs directly into the wall (literally with prongs built into the light)
____I want a light that has a recharging adapter (your typical "wall wart")
____I want a light that snaps into a cradle (usually mounted on a wall)
____I want a separate/stand-alone charger (this involves removing the batteries to charge)
____I don't care


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is not a happy experience).

___x_I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (1-10 lumens).
__x__I want an indoor "blackout" light (15-50 lumens)
___x_I want to confidently walk around an unlit/unpaved rural area (60-150 lumens).
___x_I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
____I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want search and rescue type illumination (800+ lumens).

___x_SPECIAL NOTE: Burst/Turbo mode Category - There are several lights that will run at a super bright maximum for a very limited period (usually 5-10 minutes) and then will "step-down" to a lower level for thermal control. Check here if this is acceptable.


9) Flood vs Throw: Flood covers an area, Throw reaches out to a distance.*

*I don't know on this one*

____All Flood: I am doing "arms length" tasks like reading and campsite cooking.
____Wide Flood: I want a defined flood area for semi-close tasks like after-dark campsite tasks or working on a car.
____Narrow Flood: I want a sharply defined flood area that will project some distance for tasks like trail walking.
____Wide Throw: I want a beam with a noticeable hot-center for distance throw and a significant amount of "side-spill". Good for rough trail hiking, search and rescue, and general distance work.
____Narrow Throw: I want a beam with a very tight "hot center" and minimal "side-spill". Good for distance viewing, fog, and looking through dense undergrowth.
____Turbohead: I want a far-distance projector with a sharply focused spot of light and minimal or zero side-spill. Good for extreme distance and impressing your friends.

9a) Distance: How far away will you typically need to see with this light (check all that apply)
___x_Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
__x__Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
___x_5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
__x__30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
____50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I am searching from a helicopter)

10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum continuous output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
____30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
____90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
___x_3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).




11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase "you get what you pay for" is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A "night-stand" light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
___x_Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
___x_Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't know.


12) Switch Size, Type, and location (choose all that apply):

____Any size switch will do.
____I need a BIG switch (I'll be using gloves or have very large hands or coordination issues).
____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today's high end lights).
____I want a remote switch (usually found on high-end bicycle headlights)
___x_I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
__x__I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Oscillating pattern to confuse/blind aka "Police Mode")
____I want SOS mode. (blinks in ---...--- emergency pattern)
____I want a beacon mode. (Regular flashes at full power to show location.)
____I don't care.
____I don't know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today's higher end flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
__x__I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________.

15) Water resistance
____None needed
____IPX4 (Splash resistant)
___x_IPX7 (Waterproof to 1 meter/30min)
____IPX8 (Submersible to greater than 1 meter for 4 hours)

16) Storage conditions
___x_In house (temperature/climate controlled environment)
____Emergency kit (long standby periods)
____Automobile glove-box (wide temperature swings, long standby periods, critical reliability)
____Other_________________________________________ ____


17) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any/all below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____"Hybrid" light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
___x_Pocket/belt clip
___x_Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking, Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments
 

Poppy

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Your TK15 was a CR123 x2 or 18650 light. I was going to recommend that you look at the new Thrunite TN12 2014. But looking at your check off list, it appears that you want an AA light.
Please clarify.
 

ven

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Your TK15 was a CR123 x2 or 18650 light. I was going to recommend that you look at the new Thrunite TN12 2014. But looking at your check off list, it appears that you want an AA light.
Please clarify.


+1 as i thought the same,also running at max for 3hrs presuming max lumens is a big ask
If AA is correct then i will though in 2 lights,nitecore ea4 which eats 4xAA and compact,also the sunwayman d40a again a 4xAA light

edit now 3-New sunwayman F40a too
 

reppans

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I'd go with a floody 1xAA (good for pocket EDC) that can swap on a 2xAA batt tube when/if you need more lumens/runtime. Get 3V+ CRAA lithium primaries (same as CR123s) or 14500 rechargeables and you can have the full ~400 lumens output on a single cell - but just run regular Alks, NiMh or L91s if you want. Get a decent moonlight mode and you can have 200+ hrs from a single AA ("bright" moonlight are my most often used camping mode). An Olight S15 is a contender but your budget would cover my top vote - a Foursevens Quark (QP2A-X) with optional 1xAA batt tube and deep pocket carry clip. BTW, Malkoff makes a great headband for hands-free use.
 

brianxix

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Your TK15 was a CR123 x2 or 18650 light. I was going to recommend that you look at the new Thrunite TN12 2014. But looking at your check off list, it appears that you want an AA light.
Please clarify.
I'm sorry, I'd prefer a AA light but Im not ruling out a 123. In fact I'm going to edit the original post to include 123s
Thank You
 

brianxix

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+1 as i thought the same,also running at max for 3hrs presuming max lumens is a big ask
If AA is correct then i will though in 2 lights,nitecore ea4 which eats 4xAA and compact,also the sunwayman d40a again a 4xAA light

edit now 3-New sunwayman F40a too
123s asre okay with me. I thought I put that in originally but I must have missed it. I still have a dozen around
 

Bosun52

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Go for the Nitecore MH2C. Among other things, recharges through a USB cable, in about six hours.
 

mcnair55

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Another vote for nitecore MH2C. Or if you want AA batteries, you can do EA4.

Good lights but for maps & reading the low is not low enough and you would end up being over lumened on a dark night and the op has said reading would be of use.On this occasion a dial up light would suit.
 

Nightflash

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The one light I would always carry on a Camping trip is the 1xAA Fenix MC10 Anglelight 5 lm/65hrs, 50lm/5hrs, 125lm/80mins. It works very well hanging it, clipping it on the belt or just tailstanding it somewhere and the tilting head comes in handy for all kinds of activity from tent mounting to cooking to reading. With the provided diffusor lens attached it´s very floody and agreeable, You can also push up the diffusor and have a focussed beam up to 90 meter, all from one single AA. Full waterproof to IPX8. This and a Fenix TK35 would be my primary choices.
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mcnair55

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The one light I would always carry on a Camping trip is the 1xAA Fenix MC10 Anglelight 5 lm/65hrs, 50lm/5hrs, 125lm/80mins. It works very well hanging it, clipping it on the belt or just tailstanding it somewhere and the tilting head comes in handy for all kinds of activity from tent mounting to cooking to reading. With the provided diffusor lens attached it´s very floody and agreeable, You can also push up the diffusor and have a focussed beam up to 90 meter, all from one single AA. Full waterproof to IPX8. This and a Fenix TK35 would be my primary choices.
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Excellent choice sir,fully agree makes a perfect light for camping etc.
 

will manners

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I would either suggest the L3 illumination L10 or the zebra light SC52. The L10 runs on a single AA and has a very simple twisty UI.

The sc52 is a bit more expensive and runs on both AA's and Li-ion 14500's. The UI is much more customizable and features a clicky on the head. When running on 14500's it has a max output of 500 lumens. Both lights have a very low moonlight mode.
 

Tmack

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AA light has to be the d40avn.
There's a big sale posted for these $50. That's a steal.
 
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