shakeyleg's, that's great news. looking forward to your post. btw, how much were they?
shakeylegs, any chance you can test and post pics using a 10440 cell?
Two of the mythical RB100 LOD's arrived by mail today, in natural finish, and with textured reflectors!
Bobby, I don't have any on hand, sorry.
Glad to hear that you are not planning to run 10440's in your Rebel 100's, as what will happen with the lower Vf Rebel emitter when you try to 'direct drive' it is anybody's guess. Let some other brave soul who's curiosity exceeds his common sense, make that experiment. (Hopefully this idiot will feel that 300 lumens of output for 15 seconds before the light smokes is a great deal).
Now if the Fenix-Store would just get off the dime and offer EXACTLY the same light you just bought [textured reflector,100 Lumen 350mA.) that would be great.
ElectronGuru, that is not a typo, the LOD-CE Rebel100 was made in limited quantities for ProLightJapan, they are also getting limited quantiities of other Fenix lights with Q5 WC.
I'm kind of an idiot Hopefully I'll have my LOD Rebel in about two weeks and I'll drop in 10440 in there shortly after opening the package. My guess is that it's not going to be nearly as sensitive as you're speculating it to be. I certainly don't think it's going to smoke in 15 seconds, nor do I believe it will produce 300 lumens, but is should be quite bright. Hopefully it will be noticably brighter than the Q2 with 10440. Well see....
Your a better man than I am Charley Brown
I am an electronic engineer, and I like things to be deterministic not stochastic. [predictable not random] :shakehead
Running 10440's in the L0D you are basically in 'direct drive' and tiny differences in Vf will make huge differences in current, unless something else intervenes, I could be wrong, the Rebel is pretty tough, so it may not fry after all, the battery may just explode first.
Edit:
Seriously, this is no laughing matter. Here are some Vf plots cross-linked from evan9162's technical evaluation of the Rebel-100:
In a standard L0D-CE with a Cree P4 using a 10440 battery drives just a little over 1 Amp (this has been measured at the tailcap of the L0D). If you look at the turquoise XR-E (P4) curve you will see that it hits the horizontal 3.5 volt line just a little above 1 amp on the horizontal axis. This makes sense because the loaded voltage of a 3.7 volt 10440 could easily be about 3.5 volts.
Got that? Good, now see that bottom dark blue curve? That's the Rebel-100. follow the same 3.5 volt line over to the right until it hits the dark blue curve. Hmmm, looks like about 1.9 AMP!!! This is about twice the absolute max current you should consider driveing the Rebel-100 at if you expect it to work more than a few minutes, and would be an incredible 5.4C discharge rate for a standard 350mA 10440 cell. Anything above a 1C or 2C discharge rate for one of these tiny AAA cells is a BAD idea so the original 1 Amp plus current draw for a standard L0D-CE with a Cree XR-E P4 emitter was already pushing it, but 5.4C forget it
So good luck (you'll need it).
Anyone know if our great and malevolent Japanese vendor can score something even more prized -> an LT2 with something even better than a Rebel 80?
+1Now if the Fenix-Store would just get off the dime and offer EXACTLY the same light you just bought [textured reflector,100 Lumen 350mA.) that would be great.
Anyone know if our great and malevolent Japanese vendor can score something even more prized -> an LT2 with something even better than a Rebel 80?
shakeylegs said:...LOD Q2 on High - 7' to door jam, 13' to the throne
Reb100 on High - 7' to door jamb, 13' to throne
...No question, the Reb beam is a bit smoother and floodier, and still, almost as intense a the Q2.
hi shakeylegs, so the rebel has more flood, and the cree has more throw, but which one do you consider the brighter (ceiling bounce test)?
have you done any runtimes on high between the two?
thanks for taking the time to do the beamshots and sharing your info on your new er' i mean your wife's and daugher's new lights.:tinfoil: