Open apology to CPF members

[vicv]

We are still better than rflashlights!

That's true that place can be an absolute cesspool. But every place is different. This forum I have noticed has a lot more far right activism type people. I presume it's because this site caters more to a more mature crowd. And is less cosmopolitan. Not taking any jabs at anyone I don't care I'm just saying this has been my experience.
This site also feels like it should be renamed to malkoffonlyfans.com sometimes. But they've always trended here. But this is also the last place where we can really discuss incandescent flashlights as well. No one else cares about them anymore. Overall, I've had good experiences here even though some topics can veer off the original track sometimes.

 

[bykfixer]

Oh, back when covid hit the crowd was pretty evenly divided on that subject, but the topic would get shut down as soon as it got going. Some on the (we'll say dissent side) felt like those on the agree side was overwhelming because they had more input. Not because one side or the other had more value in the eyes of management, but because as soon as anyone disagreed the insults began. The staff would shut it down. Those EV threads are a good example of what took place.

Used to be SureFire threads, Maglite threads and even Malkoff/Elzetta threads would result in insult hurling and closed threads. The longest living Maglite thread I know of (will I become a Maglite fan again) has been fairly stable. Same with recent other brands that used to breed fights among keyboard warrior types.

Under the new ownership the discussions at times begin going the wrong way. Most of the time that aspect runs out of steam for one reason or another. Yet to my knowledge none have led to fights in the parking lot like some I've been a member of. One such site members would literally fist fight at gatherings.

Right now in America a lot of people are frustrated. I won't accuse anybody about why because both camps (if you will) have plenty of issues to be frustrated about. I'm glad to see the new owner allow some topics carry on as it may make a difference in a person's life in that they could release some tension with their keyboard in an otherwise harmless manner instead of keeping it bottled up.

Many left after the change. Some prefer the 'new' freedom and stick around. The forum is a dieing form of discussion in general, so I myself like the banter that takes place. Afterall free speech was not conceived for things everybody agrees about. Free speech was conceived to allow some to openly state in ways others do not agree with. I have a friend who wants to jail anybody for burning the American flag. I tell him they have that right in America. He says I'm a trader. My response is "they do not have the right to start a fire in a public setting so jail them for that". 👍

 

[vicv]

Oh, back when covid hit the crowd was pretty evenly divided on that subject, but the topic would get shut down as soon as it got going. Some on the (we'll say dissent side) felt like those on the agree side was overwhelming because they had more input. Not because one side or the other had more value in the eyes of management, but because as soon as anyone disagreed the insults began. The staff would shut it down. Those EV threads are a good example of what took place.

Used to be SureFire threads, Maglite threads and even Malkoff/Elzetta threads would result in insult hurling and closed threads. The longest living Maglite thread I know of (will I become a Maglite fan again) has been fairly stable. Same with recent other brands that used to breed fights among keyboard warrior types.

Under the new ownership the discussions at times begin going the wrong way. Most of the time that aspect runs out of steam for one reason or another. Yet to my knowledge none have led to fights in the parking lot like some I've been a member of. One such site members would literally fist fight at gatherings.

Right now in America a lot of people are frustrated. I won't accuse anybody about why because both camps (if you will) have plenty of issues to be frustrated about. I'm glad to see the new owner allow some topics carry on as it may make a difference in a person's life in that they could release some tension with their keyboard in an otherwise harmless manner instead of keeping it bottled up.

Many left after the change. Some prefer the 'new' freedom and stick around. The forum is a dieing form of discussion in general, so I myself like the banter that takes place. Afterall free speech was not conceived for things everybody agrees about. Free speech was conceived to allow some to openly state in ways others do not agree with. I have a friend who wants to jail anybody for burning the American flag. I tell him they have that right in America. He says I'm a trader. My response is "they do not have the right to start a fire in a public setting so jail them for that". 👍

I can't believe people would actually get in fights at meetings. That is both awesome and appalling because of the ridiculousness of it. Yeah I appreciate that we can have different opinions here without insults flying around. For the most part and that's usually someone new. When I said, this place, Harbour is more right wing sentiment, I did not mean normal politics and Covid and that kind of stuff. I meant more of the tactical type crowd. Pro police and military. Anti communism. That kind of stuff. Which is fine

 

[RWT1405]

Religious people definitely have cognitive disabilities

WOW

Bigotry on display

 

[vicv]

WOW

Bigotry on

I'm not going to get too much into this one. It was meant more of a joke than anything else. But it's also true. In any religion, replace the word God with your imaginary friend, Terry. And think about how that looks to anyone who can't see Terry. But you insist is real. Regardless of the evidence to the contrary and no evidence yourself to prove Terry's real. I don't think it's appropriate to call me a bigot if I don't believe you. That being said. Obviously, I'm never going to convince a religious person otherwise. And it doesn't matter they can believe whatever they want.

 

[RWT1405]

I'm not going to get too much into this one. It was meant more of a joke than anything else. But it's also true. In any religion, replace the word God with your imaginary friend, Terry. And think about how that looks to anyone who can't see Terry. But you insist is real. Regardless of the evidence to the contrary and no evidence yourself to prove Terry's real.

No need for you to "get too much into this one"

You said all that you needed, to show your bigotry, in your first post

Your second post just confirmed it

 

[bykfixer]

I think I understood what he meant. Religion can be about worshipping cars, the planet, Oreo cookies or money among other things. Zealots are zealots.

I didn't see it as meant to disparage muslims, hindu's Christians and the like, but meant as a quip about people who worship "stuff".

 

[letschat7]

That's true that place can be an absolute cesspool. But every place is different. This forum I have noticed has a lot more far right activism type people. I presume it's because this site caters more to a more mature crowd. And is less cosmopolitan.

They are all over the place nowadays. Before they were on Stormfront, Pol, Gun boards, but now they are everywhere.

I think we have some diversity here. There are people from Aus and HK that post here but our problem is that it is an English speaking board. That naturally attracts a lot of US people.

I would get into more lengthy back and forth arguing but I'm on an iPhone and can't handle multiquotes. I'm working on getting a PC soon so I can.

 

[alpg88]

They are all over the place nowadays. Before they were on Stormfront, Pol, Gun boards, but now they are everywhere.

Maybe things changed to a point when people who did not pay much attention to it, started doing it, and became active, it is a reaction to something, not a stand alone phenomenon. When one group of folks says "frack your way of life and your values, we will destroy it, and you will live the way we tell you to or else...." well it warrants a reaction, if it gets bad enough it morphs into something much more serious, world history has it on regular basis.

 

[Monocrom]

True. Most folks just want to be left the Hell alone.
For some bizarre reason, that seems to be an outrageous thing to expect.

 

[RWT1405]

But it's also true. In any religion, replace the word God with your imaginary friend, Terry. And think about how that looks to anyone who can't see Terry. But you insist is real. Regardless of the evidence to the contrary and no evidence yourself to prove Terry's real. I don't think it's appropriate to call me a bigot if I don't believe you.

Yet your first post says..............

Religious people definitely have cognitive disabilities

 

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angular momentum

 

[letschat7]

When one group of folks says "frack your way of life and your values, we will destroy it, and you will live the way we tell you to or else...." well it warrants a reaction, if it gets bad enough it morphs into something much more serious, world history has it on regular basis.

Many groups say this but few deliver. I think that is why I like that new nation in the middle east so much. Not only did it form from people from every nation and every USA state, being of every race but they did nothing but deliver results. Instead of being keyboard warriors they were out taking on secular governments, western law enforcement, french and american media, and all kinds of groups of problematic peoples.

20 years ago living in USA I really would not be able to relate to such things but with these shifts in morals and values that society has nowadays I feel that my own country is not representative of me, its laws, morals, values, and culture do not match my own and something should be done about it. If Germans had only stood up to the NSDAP the world would have been a better place. Now Americans fawn over the NSDAP so where do you think they are heading?

 

[Monocrom]

Woke culture is what you find in the fringes. On East and West coast large cities. Mainstream media won't report on it. But most of America is made up of good, salt of the earth people with actual morals. It's important to remember that.

 

[KITROBASKIN]

I've never seen an apology thread go sideways and turn into bigotry. Welcome to CPF

And yet you wrote in the 'I hate electric cars' thread:

"I laughed but I'd still rather be there than San Franshitto"

bigburly912 I still count you as a friend. Merry Christmas!

 

[bykfixer]

Have things changed that much?

 

[bigburly912]

I think I understood what he meant. Religion can be about worshipping cars, the planet, Oreo cookies or money among other things. Zealots are zealots.

I didn't see it as meant to disparage muslims, hindu's Christians and the like, but meant as a quip about people who worship "stuff".

Ok but does that make it ok to say they have cognitive disabilities because they are the way they are?

 

[vicv]

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Have things changed that much?

That's great. Really puts things in perspective. And everything always kinda sucks for us at the bottom

 

[vicv]

Ok but does that make it ok to say they have cognitive disabilities because they are the way they are?

Did you read my explanation? I know RWT didn't. What do we call people who hear voices and believe in things that aren't there? That's not bigotry. It's comparing one thing that we call crazy, and the other exact same thing faith

 

[Ocelot808]

In any religion, replace the word God with your imaginary friend, Terry. And think about how that looks to anyone who can't see Terry. But you insist is real.

On the lighter side:

Turns out Terry's kid has a birthday tomorrow and the whole world is invited to the party!

And the most delightful application on the internet, available just once yearly is active:

The NORAD Santa Tracker!

Official NORAD Santa Tracker

Follow Santa Claus as he makes his magical journey around the world!

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Merry Terrymas everyone!