Practical LED thrower

[morrisgarages]

Hello guys! I'm a newbie on a lookout for a good handheld practical thrower. I'm embarrassed to say that I only have one flashlight as of now. A surefire 6p with a Malkoff M60. I love it for its size and for general use but I want something with a little bit more throw that I can still tuck inside a jacket. I want a practical thrower. Practical meaning no aspherics since I want it to be useable too and see things from a distance and not just a "pinhole" of light. I'm torn between a Jetbeam RRT-1, a Tiablo ACE-G, and a Tiablo A10-G. Any thoughts guys? I did my research and they seem to all tie up in terms of general performance. Will any of these flashlight be a significantly and a lot better thrower than my Surefire/M60? Is there anything else out there that I should consider? The DEFT looks nice but it's a bit too large for me (not to mention expensive!). My budget is around $150-$200. Thank you so much in advance for your help guys!

 

[rayman]

I'm also looking for a practical LED thrower and right now I'm deciding wether to buy the Tiablo A10-G or the JETBeam RRT-1. Regarding the throw you can't compare the RRT-1/A10-G (single die emtter) with the ACE-G (multi-die emitter). If you are really looking for the throw your better off getting a thrower with a single die emitter. The lux rating of the A10-G is sightly higher than that one of the RRT-1 but I was told that you don't really see the difference. At the moment I don't really know which one to get .

Here is a great thread about it.

rayman

 

[morrisgarages]

Thanks for the response rayman! Please forgive my ignorance and unenlightened status but I don't really understand the difference/uses/meaning of a single die emitter and a multi-die emitter. I don't really care much about strobes, high/low modes, etc. I loved the simplicity and reliability of my Surefire 6P/M60 and I kinda want the same from my thrower. But if those multi modes really comes with good throwers I guess I'll just have to learn to live with them. Thanks again!

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

JetBeam RRT-1.

 

[rayman]

The mutli-die emitter, for example the MC-E used in the ACE-G, are brighter and have a bigger hotspot and brighter spill but the hotspot is a little bit darker which you want notice it in small distance.

When you want a single-mode thrower get the A10-G. Which every A10-G you get two switches. One of them is a single-mode forward clicky. That's also a reason why I'm tending to the A10-G at the moment. As I don't really need a a low or medium in such a light .

rayman

 

[Patriot]

I've been enjoying the RRT-1 for about a year or so now. It's been a highly useful and practical thrower in a relatively compact size.

 

[Fusion_m8]

Thrunite Catapult SST-50, you can have a choice of pocket carry 1x18650 or 2x18650 for extra long runtime. The catapult hoses all the above for output and throw while also allowing multiple battery types to be used.

 

[joshconsulting]

Thrunite Catapult SST-50, you can have a choice of pocket carry 1x18650 or 2x18650 for extra long runtime. The catapult hoses all the above for output and throw while also allowing multiple battery types to be used.

The World's Most Powerful Pocket Thrower stomps all of the above including the 1x18650 Catapult (which has terrible regulation and is NOT recommended), and roughly ties the 2x18650 Catapult (or any other LED thrower 2x18650 or under, for that matter) with a head and body half the size. It's not going to get you the pin-sized insanely bright speck of light that an aspheric will, but you'll get one of the farthest throwing non-aspheric beams with a large hotspot and tons of sidespill in a pocketable light that's roughly the same price as the other bigger throwers.

 

[morrisgarages]

Really? A DBS V3 will out throw a jetbeam rrt-1 and a tiablo a-10?

 

[hyperloop]

havent seen any comparisons between the DBS and the RRT-1 but from one other thread i saw, the RRT-1 seems to be a dedicated thrower as compared to the RRT-2 and M1X.

I wish that Jetbeam had combined the control ring AND the IBS UI, that would be simply awesome. imagine having a control ring that you could program.

 

[Hef]

SF LX2, I love mine.

 

[saabluster]

Hello guys! I'm a newbie on a lookout for a good handheld practical thrower. I'm embarrassed to say that I only have one flashlight as of now. A surefire 6p with a Malkoff M60. I love it for its size and for general use but I want something with a little bit more throw that I can still tuck inside a jacket. I want a practical thrower. Practical meaning no aspherics since I want it to be useable too and see things from a distance and not just a "pinhole" of light. I'm torn between a Jetbeam RRT-1, a Tiablo ACE-G, and a Tiablo A10-G. Any thoughts guys? I did my research and they seem to all tie up in terms of general performance. Will any of these flashlight be a significantly and a lot better thrower than my Surefire/M60? Is there anything else out there that I should consider? The DEFT looks nice but it's a bit too large for me (not to mention expensive!). My budget is around $150-$200. Thank you so much in advance for your help guys!

Just to clear up a couple things. There is now a DEFT available at $199. It's the FTP. Also the beam of the DEFT is as large or larger than many of the dedicated reflectored throwers' hotspots. That said, and despite the fact that I know several people stuff one in their jackets, the DEFT is not something that I personally consider as a "jacketable" light. Not an EDC in other words. But it is very practical for specific task lighting where other lights just won't cut it.

 

[joshconsulting]

Really? A DBS V3 will out throw a jetbeam rrt-1 and a tiablo a-10?

With a sst-50 in it, yes. Throw is comparable, but the hotspot size, spill brightness, and overall light output is far superior.

 

[Patriot]

Really? A DBS V3 will out throw a jetbeam rrt-1 and a tiablo a-10?

I don't think so, especially with the textured reflector shown in the review link. I have no doubt that the DBS V3 will be a "practical" thrower, I would just have some reservations about it out throwing and RRT-1 before seeing some good test data. We already know the SST50s don't throw as far with similarly sized reflectors. Lower relative surface brightness than R2s. I can't really argue against the SST-50's practicality though since it obviously has a heck of a lot going for it. A spectacular little performer!

 

[Cman219]

Get the RRT-0, you can use either 1xAA(Must get the adapter) or 1xCR123a. Very practical if you ask me . It can throw very well, at about 25ft the hot spot is close to 2.5ft only.

 

[Fusion_m8]

I also find it a very ambitious claim that a flashlight with a smaller OP reflector using the same SST-50 emitter would out throw a flashlight with a larger SMO reflector. I also wonder how a smaller flashlight could effectively heatsink and provide better reliability than a larger and heavier, but still pocketable flashlight.

:thinking:

 

[stallion2]

i own a few dedicated throwers and don't really think any of them are worthy to be called practical, just a lot of fun...from what i've read elsewhere it doesn't sound as though the RRT-1 or an A-10 are truly practical either. none my throwers or the RRT-1 or A-10 seem to be of much use when trying to illuminate w/ in 100' of yourself. the closest i've seen to being practical as a complete light would be a Catapult. it has excellent spill but is still a pretty big light. if you want both a good thrower and a practical light then i would go w/ the Cat or a DBS V3. at least w/ the DBS V3 you can take out the XR-E and SMO and install other pills and reflectors better suited to whatever applications you may be faced with.

 

[hyperloop]

Went through my flashlight stash the other night and found my old Aurora WF600 from DX (sub $40 light) and popped in 2xRCR123s and was very pleasantly surprised, it's a pretty decent thrower though i wouldnt want to bet any money on its durability as compared to other lights but its got a 52-53mm smooth reflector and throws pretty darn far with a very tight hotspot.

As with any DX light, you may have to check connections, do a bit of resoldering etc. I cannot get the head off mine, it seems glued down and i have encountered some niggling connection problems but no issue so far.

Would you like to see some beamshots?

 

[joshconsulting]

I also find it a very ambitious claim that a flashlight with a smaller OP reflector using the same SST-50 emitter would out throw a flashlight with a larger SMO reflector. I also wonder how a smaller flashlight could effectively heatsink and provide better reliability than a larger and heavier, but still pocketable flashlight.

:thinking:

Both the RRT-1 and the A-10 have R2 LEDs with around 170 lumens OTF against the SST-50s 470. Like I said, they may have a more intense hotspot, but for practical usage the SST-50 will certainly be brighter.