SkyRC — IFA 2014 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

Ferdinando

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Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

@Kreisl is there a way to have battery-slot temperature logged into DEX ?
 

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Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

BattTemp is already iirc being logged in DEX, as is Batt IR, SysTemp, Power, Energy, etc

i hope you can figure it out. i never needed to read the dex help documentation
 

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Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

in my DEX default config (i.e. just installed DEX, connected to MC3000 without any personalization) battery temp isnt't showed

I've tried

DEVICE --> Device_Tool_Box

and battery_temp checkbox were selected

I've de-check and re-check the checkbox, and so battery_temp were be showed (default color green)

However, (with a previously recorded data) the showed curve is a flat curve (all values are 0)

 

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Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

BattTemp is shown correctly in SOV and GSV, say 35Celsius, but logged as 0 in DEX?

i have no such problems with dex
 

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Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

Yes, during charge, battery temp value was shown correctly (I don't remeber the value, but was coherent)
I will try to log again.
(this is not a critical issue for me however)
Thanks for support.
 

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in my DEX default config (i.e. just installed DEX, connected to MC3000 without any personalization

Could you kindly tell me how did you do that? Thanks.
 

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Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

Could you kindly tell me how did you do that? Thanks.

I had some trouble in the past, but with latest DEX version and connecting MC3000 through usb2 port (avoiding USB3 ports) all worked fine.
 

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I had some trouble in the past, but with latest DEX version and connecting MC3000 through usb2 port (avoiding USB3 ports) all worked fine.
There is also a practical tip, when you're logging with DEX and all works fine and you want to, for some reason, close/exit/quit/leave/kill DEX, then you cannot just close DEX the application. One must stop the logging neatly with the DEX Stop gathering button first. Then you can exit DEX.

Otherwise ... :poof:

And if all fails, simply restart the PC, restart DEX, and go.
 

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There is also a practical tip, when you're logging with DEX and all works fine and you want to, for some reason, close/exit/quit/leave/kill DEX, then you cannot just close DEX the application. One must stop the logging neatly with the DEX Stop gathering button first. Then you can exit DEX.

Otherwise ... :poof:

And if all fails, simply restart the PC, restart DEX, and go.

start / stop gathering on my DEX
also start/stop functions on my MC3000

i.e. if I was charging, and I stop gathering, DEX stop logging
but also MC3000 stop to charge.

Is it the correct behavior ?
 

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yes, correct behavior. DEX can Start All and Stop All thru the startstopgatheringbutton.

if DEX is to log, then one should not operate the charger manually imo
 

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Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

The CVS version (the developement version of DEX) does log the temperature OK.
See source code here
https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/dataexplorer

AFAIK
The latest stable version of DataExplorer is 3.2.6
and does not log T for the MC3000

many thanks for info. I think I will wait the feature will be implemented in stable version of DEX.
 

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i believe it is true that the 3.2.6 only logs BattTemp and not SysTemp.
i was able to update my installation with newer JAR file which does log SysTemp :D
 
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i believe it is true that the 3.2.6 only logs BattTemp and not SysTemp.
i was able to update my installation with newer JAR file which does log SysTemp :D

I used the CVS version for weeks, if I remember well 3.2.6 was logging 0 for BattTemp.
But my recollection could be wrong
I only used 3.2.6 very shortly

Indeed 3.2.6 did not log Systemp, you are right
it was added after 3.2.6, line 552 on 16th of May:

http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/...MC3000.java?root=dataexplorer&r1=1.10&r2=1.11
 

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I used the CVS version for weeks, if I remember well 3.2.6 was logging 0 for BattTemp.
But my recollection could be wrong
I only used 3.2.6 very shortly

Indeed 3.2.6 did not log Systemp, you are right
it was added after 3.2.6, line 552 on 16th of May
i've been logging with the 16th May build and you are right, the official 3.2.6 does not log BattTemp flawlessly:
3.2.6 vs. 3.2.6-16th
As shown, the latter logs BattTemp and also SysTemp.
Btw both DEX versions don't log capacity (correctly translated into geman as Ladung instead of Kapazität, i noticed such translation error in the geman MC3000 instruction manual omg) with the extra decimal which the 1.11 firmware provides at the USB port, crossing fingers to see it in 3.2.7 :thumbsup:

You could try to install the 3.2.6-16th download by overwriting your existing JAR-file but you may also need to delete all contents of
C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Kreisel\Anwendungsdaten\DataExplorer\*.*
first, before starting the modified DEX installation. When DEX starts, it re-creates fresh contents in that location.

I always log with the latest builds, so i was not aware that 3.2.6 did not/not really log BattTemp to our satisfaction. I am on WinXP cheers.
 
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install the 3.2.6-16th download by overwriting your existing JAR-file
Thank you, Kreisl! This restored DataExplorer temperature logging on my Mac.

Those repeating this, run the following command to delete DataExplorer local settings on Mac OS:
rm -r ~/Library/Application\ Support/DataExplorer


To further document firmware updates, I couldn't make it work on Windows 7 Pro SP1 running under the latest VirtualBox on Mac OS X 10.10.5. It was failing with the above mentioned "start vector err1" message.
Ran flawlessly the first time on an old Vista Home.
Make sure you have a generic Windows system as a backup before attempting update from virtual machine.
 

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Hi to all.

looks like you are a real specialist for this charger.

then ibought thi charger. I connect to my computer, USB 3 i think, and have a look on the firmware with MC3000 monitoring.

The systeme found nothing then i stop and disconnect. Put the MC screen goes off. And ths even i have the power connected???

If i disconnect power and use only USB the screen goes on and said low voltage, ok. I connect the power and i can use the charger.

If i disconnect the USB the screen stop.

I do a factory reset and it's the same.

i send the new MC firmware V1.11 it's still the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYPwNk0NYek


If you have any suposition it will be great.
thank you anyway.

very good tread here about this charger, even i don't understand every thing.


regard's steph
 

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If i disconnect the USB the screen stop.

I do a factory reset and it's the same.

i send the new MC firmware V1.11 it's still the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYPwNk0NYek
eh ben, i have never witnessed such strange MC behavior before and i am en vacances and not set to wrap my mind around the observation. of course there has to be a technical explanation for it and after careful examination of circuitry and physical sample some sky engineer would find it. however, if your unit works like that, strange, at any other mains socket and you're sure that the power adapter is working 100% fine, then we could already conclude that your charger has a malfunction.

the MC got adopted by sky EU distributors from the RC scene, including one covering all BE/FR/LUX regions. i hope that your unit traces back to him (sold by a BE/FR/LUX retailer), then it will be very comfortable for you to go thru the warranty process, all within your country.

I would test your charger on a different systeme , ask a friend or neighbor for help , and also test the power adapter separately bonne chance.
 

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Thanks kreisl.

Ok i have made a breaking test on battery then i have to wait.

If i start the MC3000 by himself, is that possible to connect the computer after starting the processus?? it looks like not possible.

When the brekin will be finish i will look the power supple, but when i goes to the data it looks ok.

I have use an USB3, and hope this is not the cause!!!


thanks steph
 
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