Torn apart - Surefire M6 or Wiseled tactical 2000 ?

Przemo(c)

Newly Enlightened
Joined
Jun 15, 2007
Messages
143
Location
UK
Hi Guys,

I've read plenty of threads, saw tens of beamshots, asked many questions but still cannot decide what light should I get. I'm posting this thread here, as this is the choice between incan and led light; so difficult nowadays :thinking:
At the moment I'm on 50/50 stage to make the final decision, there are many pros and cons. Let me share with you with all my doubts here.

Surefire M6

Pros:
- smaller size then tactical 2000
- prooved build quality (the light is on the market for a few years by now, besides SF quality dos not to be proved in any way)
- narrower beam (as far as I can tell from the beamshots; it's an advantage to me in some way)
- warmer beam colour, more natural
- it's an incan light, so the beam is more "juicy" that led light
- nice upgrades / extras (ie military style lens cover or wahtever you want from SF site)
- plenty of mods (bulbs, battery packs, etc)

Cons:
- need to invest in some charger / battery pack and then babysitting them not to go flat / discharged / overcharged etc
- need to invest in better bulb (there is no "need" really, but I'd like to have all the best I can suck from this light
- eventual possibilities of replacing the bulb/s in the future
- lack of different output modes (which is obvious for the incans, anyway)
- as this model is quite old now there is possiblity of lack of interest in it anymore (no more mods, developments, improvements). I consider this light to serve for me for around 5 years if no longer, untill I start to look for something new then.

Wiseled Tactical 2000

Pros:
- art of work design, very durable, water resistant (dunkable, suitable even for divers), bla, bla (that's what I know from reviews and their internet site)
- led light, very long lasting with different output modes
- no need to worry about led life
- battery pack included, as well as the charger (with all that luminous gadgets - charged, discharged, tail light)
- programmable output modes

Cons:
- you don't really know how it'll behave in the future as this is quite new light on the market
- maybe I'm wrong, but somehow I cannot convince myself to leds (or normal bulb, whatever) without reflector. I am imagining, that the spill will be enormous and this is not what I really need.
- the cost of gadgets included. How much less would it cost without build-in battery pack, the charger, all those shining charging / tail cap lights, waterproofness, which I don't really need? I'm just trying to convert the real $ per lumen cost comparing to SF M6. SF seems to be quite simple considering construction itself, but it gives similar "amount" of light. As for the WL - how much more do we need to pay for the things useless in real life? I know, that some of you will give me the counter argument of saying, that I've already made an assumption of giving the SF additional battery pack and spare bulbs, but the point here is the price for the unit itself. I'm just trying to estimate the light value as it is. When one light comes packed with the golden case and it's cost is 10000$ and the other comes in the cartoon box and produces similar performance it doesn't mean that the more expensive one is better. Hope you get my point. After all is the output we're all after. As for the SF one may buy additional mods / battery packs and chargers, but does not have to, that light will still be as advertised. However considering the WL - we don't have a choice. All is already included.
- the spill. Somehow I'm afraid of it. I don't need tons of spill, I would rather have balanced maount of spill and throw. Imagine narrow road with houses on both sides of it, and you need to illuminate the far end of the road without making the early awake for you neighbours. Big spill is not an option here, so the thrower, as you still need to have the road illuminated at the decent way.

Well, I think that's it:whistle: I know, it's a long post, but, the thing is serious to me, as I'm gonna spend a lot of money for the light I'm gonna keep for the next few years and it need to be THAT light.
Thanks a lot in advance for all your help and please give me your opinions, what do you think?
Cheers!
 
Check out the PhD-M6 thread on a programmable hotwire driver for the SF M6.
 
From what I can see from their photos, the WiseLED uses optics (lenses) rather than reflectors to focus the light. It's not just LEDs sitting there with nothing.

So your understanding of its beam/spill are incorrect.

I do agree that it seems too expensive for what it is, even with the 35% discount.
 
I would go with the M6 purely for the number and variety of aftermarket modifications, both made by Surefire and by CPF members.
 
Well this is one of those questions that will take a lot of soul searching on your part. First, unless you work for law enforcement, military, search and rescue etc there is no real need for either one of these lights. Secondly the philosophy of purchasing an LED vs. a high end incan is something that you will have to balance. Incans are just not the state of the art at this point and although their strength is color rendition its more of a specialty market with a somewhat retro cool factor. Thirdly you need to think about modding vs. keeping the light stock. If it is in your personality (and you have the funds) continually modding a light is great fun. Related to this point is that the M series bodies and heads (M3, M4, M6) are interchangable so you can create different "lego" options. Personally I have an M6, a M4 bored for 18650s, an extra stock M4 body and a 3x18650 C-M Leef body. I just use them as walking lights and to wander around the house at night. Stupid fun. I have also bought most of the custom upgrades and accessories and have a few more in mind. :naughty:
 
I would go with the M6 purely for the number and variety of aftermarket modifications, both made by Surefire and by CPF members.


+1


You can convert a SF M6 to LED for as little as $50 or as much as +$300
 
+1


You can convert a SF M6 to LED for as little as $50 or as much as +$300

+2

Aside from the excellent build quality and other factors regarding the M6, it will leave you a lot of room to try different lamps with different battery combinations as well as LEDs down the road if you choose to venture down that route.

I'd go for the M6. I finally took the plunge a little over a year ago and bought my M6 and haven't looked back since. It is still one of my absolute favorite lights.

-Robert
 
I think you cannot go wrong with either of them.
Though, if I had the choice (which means also having enough money :crazy:) I'd get the M6 just for its "SureFire-ness" and this really amazing design which I always liked. Just looking at it is enough to convince me :D
 

Latest posts

Top