LukeA
Flashlight Enthusiast
You wouldn't ask that question if you had twins girls that both needed changing at one am
I think I would turn on the lights. :shrug:
What's the big deal with tail standing?
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I think I would turn on the lights. :shrug:
kramer5150
Flashaholic
I find it a useful feature from time to time. But its not a deal-breaking feature for me. Its MUCH more handy with throwers than flooders, when used indoors. With a thrower a ceiling bounce is pretty much the only way to get useful close range flood (IMHO). I disagree with marduke, a thrower with a tight hot spot will not blind you if it is ceiling bouncing at a level lower than your eyes. Provided of course that you don't look directly at or into it. A floody light however will catch your vision and blind you in such a scenario.
I have this tailcap on order, we'll see how well it converts my 6P into a ceiling bouncer. The DX drop ins are far too throwey for close range use. I'm hoping a ceiling bounce tail-standing conversion will help increase usefulness.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14024
I have this tailcap on order, we'll see how well it converts my 6P into a ceiling bouncer. The DX drop ins are far too throwey for close range use. I'm hoping a ceiling bounce tail-standing conversion will help increase usefulness.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14024
kurni
Enlightened
I also tailstand regularly indoor; even multi-led M@g 2D I tailstand (just don't touch it LOL).
I'm going to have my 1st SF, which cannot tailstand. One reason I've been resisting SF is because of the lack of tailstand, but I'm really curious about SF so I'm yet to see how I will survive without tailstand
I'm going to have my 1st SF, which cannot tailstand. One reason I've been resisting SF is because of the lack of tailstand, but I'm really curious about SF so I'm yet to see how I will survive without tailstand
Simply ask you self whether you see an advantage in having a light freestanding on a relatively flat surface.
Needing to ceiling bounce to light a room during a power cut is a common requirement but there are many others.
For me this would not kill a deal on a cheap or a specialist light but for a "perfect" light it is an absolute must.
Needing to ceiling bounce to light a room during a power cut is a common requirement but there are many others.
For me this would not kill a deal on a cheap or a specialist light but for a "perfect" light it is an absolute must.
PhantomPhoton
Flashlight Enthusiast
For an around the house light tailstanding is very, very nice. Being able to set the light down on the kitchen counter in the middle of the night so that I can make my way around the area thanks to the general lighting effect achieved by ceiling bounce is a great way to kust make enough light for me to make a snack and not wake up others who catch glare from the kitchen lights in my home.
And of course I jut love playing with lights, so taking a shower by flashlight is just indulging my idiot self.
And of course I jut love playing with lights, so taking a shower by flashlight is just indulging my idiot self.
jzmtl
Flashlight Enthusiast
To me it's one of the things that's neat to have, but no big deal if not.
Taking a shower by flashlight for me is only part flashaholism since I do it before bedtime. I think I get to sleep a little bit faster when I turn the overhead lights out earlier. Being in the dark for a while before turning in helps get my body ready to sleep. I got the idea from the book "The Promise of Sleep" by William De Ment. A little more sleep is almost always a good thing.
jake25
Enlightened
Tailstanding is a dealbreaker for me, i must have it
It's the reason why i have a Z48 on my SF C2
all of my lights tailstand, its just better for me
It's the reason why i have a Z48 on my SF C2
all of my lights tailstand, its just better for me
Triple A
Newly Enlightened
You wouldn't ask that question if you had twins girls that both needed changing at one am
+1!! (Well, we weren't blessed with twins, but my little Girl has grown up "under the flashlight beam," from changings to night-lights!!)
ninjaboigt
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me personally, i dont see it as a much have feature, but its nice to have!i use the tail stand for basicly the same reason everybody else does, for ceiling bouncing during a power outage, for me, i pull out my closet door and tail stand it up there, so its abouve my head level. and i just thought about it, maybei can attach a holster to the closet door, so that way it wont get knocked off the top of the closet door.
another reason why i like tail standing lights is because....the button is recessed! ( if its on the buttom ) so that way i wont accidently switch it on in my pocket, or gf's purse. and
another reason why i like tail standing lights is because....the button is recessed! ( if its on the buttom ) so that way i wont accidently switch it on in my pocket, or gf's purse. and
ninjaboigt
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me personally, i dont see it as a much have feature, but its nice to have!i use the tail stand for basicly the same reason everybody else does, for ceiling bouncing during a power outage, for me, i pull out my closet door and tail stand it up there, so its abouve my head level. and i just thought about it, maybei can attach a holster to the closet door, so that way it wont get knocked off the top of the closet door.
another reason why i like tail standing lights is because....the button is recessed! ( if its on the buttom ) so that way i wont accidently switch it on in my pocket, or gf's purse. and still have quick acess to the light with out have to twist it off of lock out mode.
another reason why i like tail standing lights is because....the button is recessed! ( if its on the buttom ) so that way i wont accidently switch it on in my pocket, or gf's purse. and still have quick acess to the light with out have to twist it off of lock out mode.
kurni
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Thanks Jake, I'm very happy to hear that Z48 can tailstand; must get it
SF bug is biting
BlueBeam22
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When it comes to standard size to small flashlights I don't care whether or not it can tailstand.
The reason why is because I have many large spotlights which brightly illuminate a room (most rechargeable, some 4D) which can all "tailstand" or at least be adjusted to aim at the ceiling, so I have no need to tailstand a smaller light.
The reason why is because I have many large spotlights which brightly illuminate a room (most rechargeable, some 4D) which can all "tailstand" or at least be adjusted to aim at the ceiling, so I have no need to tailstand a smaller light.
LED-holic
Flashlight Enthusiast
All my lights tail stand. When I had the NDI and it couldn't tail stand, I didn't like it as much.
The lack of flexibility was a bit annoying.
The lack of flexibility was a bit annoying.
tail standing is less of an issue for me, I have LED taplights in 3 rooms of the house, LED lanterns in places strategically placed too. I have two lights I tailstand, one is a dorcy 3D luxeon LED light that is too big to carry around for long but lights up the room big time tailstanding and runs for days off half dead D cells. I also have a cheap xnova 2AA at my bed in a plastic pipe cap tailstanding I use for now at night to finish off AA alkaline and heavy duty batteries. I am using a cheap light because some of the time the batteries leak and it is a throwaway I paid $2 for at a flea market. The nice thing about ceiling bounce when you are sleeping is I have fallen asleep many times with the light on where having an area light it is harder to fall asleep because you can see where the light comes from directly.
BigHonu
Flashlight Enthusiast
Important to me too. I've used it when working under a car, under a sink, loading and unloading the bed of a truck (with a camper on), and for re-tucking the kids back in during the late night checks (much better than turning on a light and waking them up).
For me now, it almost is a deal breaker. If I'm considering a particular light that doesn't tail stand, it better have some other features that make it really stand out.
I use tail standing all the time. Sure, you can lay it on it's side to hit a wall for bounce, but that light is very directional and casts heavy shadows.
When you bounce off a ceiling, it's exactly like having a ceiling light on.
With tail standing, 90% (my arbitrary guess) of the light you see in the room is what comes from the bounce of the bright center beam and then some from the spill.
Whenever I get up at night or early morning, I never like to turn on main lights because I'll wake up everyone else in the house (including the dogs). So I keep an EX10 by my bedside for bathroom excursions at night, but also for cranking up the level and tailstanding it in the kitchen to make coffee.
And of course, there's always the power outage scenario when your tailstanding LED lights can work as well as any LED lantern. For those times, what I do is to tail stand the light and put it under a table lamp so that the beam will light up the lamp shade as well as to hit the ceiling through the hole at the top of the lamp shade.
With the EX10 on only a couple of clicks below max (for better runtime), you'd think it was the regular lamp itself that was on.
Once you start actually using a light as a tail stander in the many situation where it's handy, I'm willing to bet that you'll start depending upon it more and more.
My most favorite "go to" tail standing lights are my EX10, 120P, D10, LF5XT, and JetBeam I MK IBC. (I sold my NDI mainly because it wouldn't tail stand.)
With just those five lights on their tails and set to mid-bright settings, I can pretty much light up the whole house all night long if I wanted.
I keep eyeing the Coast LED lanterns (both D and AA size) and keep thinking I should have one for power out situations, but I keep finding that a small, single cell light on it's tail is quite sufficient and without taking up as much space.
I use tail standing all the time. Sure, you can lay it on it's side to hit a wall for bounce, but that light is very directional and casts heavy shadows.
When you bounce off a ceiling, it's exactly like having a ceiling light on.
With tail standing, 90% (my arbitrary guess) of the light you see in the room is what comes from the bounce of the bright center beam and then some from the spill.
Whenever I get up at night or early morning, I never like to turn on main lights because I'll wake up everyone else in the house (including the dogs). So I keep an EX10 by my bedside for bathroom excursions at night, but also for cranking up the level and tailstanding it in the kitchen to make coffee.
And of course, there's always the power outage scenario when your tailstanding LED lights can work as well as any LED lantern. For those times, what I do is to tail stand the light and put it under a table lamp so that the beam will light up the lamp shade as well as to hit the ceiling through the hole at the top of the lamp shade.
With the EX10 on only a couple of clicks below max (for better runtime), you'd think it was the regular lamp itself that was on.
Once you start actually using a light as a tail stander in the many situation where it's handy, I'm willing to bet that you'll start depending upon it more and more.
My most favorite "go to" tail standing lights are my EX10, 120P, D10, LF5XT, and JetBeam I MK IBC. (I sold my NDI mainly because it wouldn't tail stand.)
With just those five lights on their tails and set to mid-bright settings, I can pretty much light up the whole house all night long if I wanted.
I keep eyeing the Coast LED lanterns (both D and AA size) and keep thinking I should have one for power out situations, but I keep finding that a small, single cell light on it's tail is quite sufficient and without taking up as much space.
abarth_1200
Flashlight Enthusiast
i find that when you want to light up your room and have picked up your favourite torch and try tailstanding it, failing because it cant it can be quite annoying, i use my TK11 as a bedside light alongside my P3D but i prefer the TK11 but more often than not i find myself reaching for the P3D because it can tailstand.
The real problem here is that the P3D rolls off the side but can tailstand but my TK11 cant roll off the side, good thing, but cant tailstand.
i need something that does both now
The real problem here is that the P3D rolls off the side but can tailstand but my TK11 cant roll off the side, good thing, but cant tailstand.
i need something that does both now
... so you could use your free hands for something else "like using another flashlight
:lolsign:
During the last big blackout, I had at least 3 lights tailstanding in the kitchen, then had to whip out my EDC cuz it still wasn't bright enough.
ttran97
Flashlight Enthusiast
I don't like tail standing tailcaps because the shrouds make it hard for me to press the switch. However, sometimes it is useful to use your flashlight like a candle. That's why I made these water bottle caps that I cut a hole into. I just leave a couple of them scattered around...one in the bathroom, one near my desk, etc. So I can stand up my flashlight when I need to, but it's not a permanent thing.
