5055 mAh is roughly what a 3500 mAh 18650 would be if scaled up to 26650. There are 5000 mAh 26650s available, and they are high drain. Sure we don't have the selection like with 18650s, but what are we missing exactly?
SubLGT said:Both are obsolete.
The future is 20700. Panasonic will manufacture billions of them for Tesla. LG and Samsung will then probably join the party.
The highest drain 18650s drain over 5A more than the highest draining 26650s. The only real improvement 26650s have received is more mah.
Go to http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Common18650comparator.php
and compare a Sanyo NCR18650GA 3500mAh and a Shockli 26650 4200mAh and check 5, 7, and 10 amps and look at the results.
Yes, the 18650 is a very advanced battery with much more R&D and specific markets than the 26650 battery. Still, my choice for a single battery flashlight is the 26650 because it out performs any single cell flashlight. I would like to see the same R&D for the 26650 battery, but the flashlight battery market is relatively small.The GA is a (poorly) cherry picked example, lol. Now compare the Shockli to the 30Q @ 20A. The 4200mah isn't that impressive anymore.
Now go find graphs for the LG HB6. 32A CDR. The mah capacity is missing, but my point is 18650s have way more R&D put into them by the biggest and best manufacturers. There isn't a cell currently that can match it in size/ah ratio. A comparable 26650 would need to be 6000-7000mah to compete.
Fair enough, we all have our favorites!Yes, the 18650 is a very advanced battery with much more R&D and specific markets than the 26650 battery. Still, my choice for a single battery flashlight is the 26650 because it out performs any single cell flashlight. I would like to see the same R&D for the 26650 battery, but the flashlight battery market is relatively small.
Fair enough, we all have our favorites!
Some don't mind the size of 26650s and while they do carry more mah, they still don't match the size/energy density of 18650s. Also, to be fair, I'm not sure it "outperforms" any other single-cell format light - longer runtimes maybe, but theoretically you'd be able to get more amperage pull (with help from the very low internal resistance of the 30A+ cells) out of a 18650 to drive bigger (or just more, ie triples, quads)/higher output emitters with higher CDR ratings.
Would like to see some beast 26650 lights to get in production, as they handle heat a lot better, 3000+lm is more managable for those crazy times you want to light up your world............and the neighbors
A lot of the time the high output for me is blasts/scans/fun/hell yeh! stuff, generally 30% of the output covers my uses for flood types. Less at night and general stuff, more in day to fight the evil of artificial lighting . As i say, its nice to have on tap if/when needed, and we all know its better to have and not need than to need and not have
3000lm does get toasty quick on 18650, even with the best cells its mins of that output anyway, more duration required, multi cell lights are the only way!. Having a light in the pocket that can light a field up. just never grows old:naughty:
The GA is a (poorly) cherry picked example, lol. Now compare the Shockli to the 30Q @ 20A. The 4200mah isn't that impressive anymore.
I think we're already starting to see the beginnings of increased 26650 light production. Models I've been looking at (top 3 in desired order)
Klarus G20 (XHP70)
Fenix FD40 (XP-L)
FourSevens Maelstrom Regen (3x XM-L2)
EagleTac SX25L2 Turbo (XM-L2 or XP-L & uses two 26650's)
Olight R40 (XM-L2)
Olight R50 (XHP50)
Lumapower Strive (XM-L2)
Fenix PD40 (MT-G2)
Xtar D26 (XM-L U3 diving light)
Some have been around for a couple years, some have only been out a few months or less.
There are a few others as well, but mainly "Fire" brands. I imagine by this time next year, we'll see at least one model from most of the smaller manufacturers that tend to cater towards "flashaholics like the brands listed above + Nitecore, ThruNite, JetBeam, etc...
Not the Manker U21 XHP 35 HI? I'd prefer neutral white and the only ones I can see so far is the Manker or the Fenix PD40.
All of my three main lights are single cell 26650 and I have on order a convoy L6 (2 x 26650). My edc are two 18650 ZebraLights.I think we're already starting to see the beginnings of increased 26650 light production. Models I've been looking at (top 3 in desired order)
Klarus G20 (XHP70)
Fenix FD40 (XP-L)
FourSevens Maelstrom Regen (3x XM-L2)
EagleTac SX25L2 Turbo (XM-L2 or XP-L & uses two 26650's)
Olight R40 (XM-L2)
Olight R50 (XHP50)
Lumapower Strive (XM-L2)
Fenix PD40 (MT-G2)
Xtar D26 (XM-L U3 diving light)
Some have been around for a couple years, some have only been out a few months or less.
There are a few others as well, but mainly "Fire" brands. I imagine by this time next year, we'll see at least one model from most of the smaller manufacturers that tend to cater towards "flashaholics like the brands listed above + Nitecore, ThruNite, JetBeam, etc...