Woman gives birth to octuplets in SoCal hospital

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This story is such a comedy of errors that it makes the sinking of the Titanic seem routine..

And on it goes:

- NBC's statement that they did not pay the mother for the Today/Dateline interview is legally correct. She was paid only for the "image rights", for footage of herself, the babies, the house, etc. The total amount the mother recieved from NBC is approximately $300,000.

- In blatant contradiction to the mother's statement in the NBC interview that she was/is not receiving government assistance of any kind, state records show that the family receives just under $500 a month in food stamps, and also receives disability payments for three of the original six children (which indicates that those three are disabled in some way).

- The doctor who performed the in vitro treatment, Michael Kamrava, was already under investigation prior to this story breaking; According to statistics collected by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, his clinics performed 20 in vitro procedures in 2006 on women under 35. Of those 20 procedures, only two resulted in birth. This number is abnormally low, enough so that other practitioners have openly questioned his practice. (Strangely, the way the doctor was identified was by finding news stock footage of Nadya at his clinic in 2006, where both she and the doctor were praising how effective his new techniques were.) Aside from this, there is also an ongoing inquiry into his finances; apparently he had most or all of his patients pay in cash, which he then usually handed directly over to his wife, making a substantial part of his business "off the books".

- Celebrity plastic surgeon Tony Youn's study of various images/video of the mother: "Her lips are huge and may be the result of aggressive fat grafting. It's possible that people who have a large amount of fat grafted into their lips find their lips become excessively large when they become pregnant. Their tummy is not the only thing that grows! Her nose may also have had some work done, making it smaller and thinner than it was before." He also noted the possibility of Botox use in the forehead, which would be extremely dangerous to have done during pregnancy, as Botox can be passed along to the fetus. He estimates the total cost of the mother's "new" face at roughly $30,000 and also notes that there is no form of insurance of any kind that would cover this - any and all cosmetic work she has had done *must have been paid out of pocket*.

- The mother's publicist,
Joann Killeen, president of public relations firm Killeen Furtney Group, states that she is being deluged with offers for book deals, TV/reality shows, and other business proposals, but adds that the mother "plans to carefully review her financial opportunities".

She's about used up her 15 minutes of fame with me. I think the media needs to back away from her and let the appropriate agencies take it from there.

An in vitro sepcialist speaking to Anderson Cooper on CNN stated openly that he has no idea how the mother would be allowed to take the children home, implying plainly that the state will almost certainly intervene..
 

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Great as soon as the state steps in, this lady or her "people" will be on TV screaming Bloody Murder, Government oppression, yada yada, ad nauseam.:ohgeez:
 

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She has no "people". Just about everybody hates her now. Don't take the measured notes of "controversy" in the media as an assumption that half or some portion of the people in the country find this an inspirational story. The media's being nice to her to get access but I think Ann Curry was as mortified as anyone else. But there was no need to be argumentative, I mean Nadya Suleman showed she was just nuts with the way she talked.

Gerbers and Proctor & Gamble, which have showered mass multiple birth cases with freebies in the past, say they're taking a pass on this one.

Even her own mom is totally against what she's doing. She was against it when she started having babies without a job or partner.

Have you seen the interview?? She has the gall to say it's all the other moms out there who are selfish because they don't hold their kids and aren't there for them like SHE is. And her reaction to the "people say you're doing this for the money" question was borderline psychotic. Well, emotionally inappropriate.
 

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- NBC's statement that they did not pay the mother for the Today/Dateline interview is legally correct. She was paid only for the "image rights", for footage of herself, the babies, the house, etc. The total amount the mother recieved from NBC is approximately $300,000.

I hope the state recovers some of that 300k.
 

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She has no "people". Just about everybody hates her now. Don't take the measured notes of "controversy" in the media as an assumption that half or some portion of the people in the country find this an inspirational story. The media's being nice to her to get access but I think Ann Curry was as mortified as anyone else. But there was no need to be argumentative, I mean Nadya Suleman showed she was just nuts with the way she talked.

Gerbers and Proctor & Gamble, which have showered mass multiple birth cases with freebies in the past, say they're taking a pass on this one.

Even her own mom is totally against what she's doing. She was against it when she started having babies without a job or partner.

Have you seen the interview?? She has the gall to say it's all the other moms out there who are selfish because they don't hold their kids and aren't there for them like SHE is. And her reaction to the "people say you're doing this for the money" question was borderline psychotic. Well, emotionally inappropriate.

I don't mean people as in the public. I mean all the PR reps and such this lady has hired with the states money. I agree that the majority of public opinion is against her. But it doesn't matter if it is completely immoral, as long as people keep getting attention or money for these stunts well still see these "dramas" unfold in the media.
 

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This woman is insane.

Not sure I'd go that far. But it was horribly clear from the interview that there is something terribly wrong with this woman. The way in which she kept mentioning her kids.... downright creepy. :shakehead
 

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It looks like there are indeed "people"..

- The mother's church is looking to buy her and her family a new house. The church and an "army of volunteers" are looking in the Whittier area (where she currently lives), and hope to secure a home within the next week.
 

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- A source close to Angelina Jolie has stated that Angelina has received several letters of admiration and support from Nadya over the last year or so, and that Angelina is "totally creeped out".

- A 49 year old woman is now pregnant with quadruplets after having in vitro treatment from Dr Michael Kamrava, Suleman's doctor.

- Merry Poppins To Order nanny service, which has helped care for the elder six Suleman children over the past two years, will offer free nanny service to the family for a full year after the newborns come home.
 

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- Southern California psychiatrist Dr. Carole Lieberman has filed a complaint with child-protective services against the mother; "Animals have litters, they don't exert conscious control over the number of babies that they have. It is not psychologically, nor physically, possible to provide sufficient love and attention to the 'litter' that Ms. Suleman has chosen to deliver. The best thing would be for [the eight babies] to be adopted straight from the hospital, rather than being allowed to go home and be in real danger."

- The mother admitted to not having sex since before the birth of her eldest child, over eight years ago. She vows to abstain until her children have grown and have left home.
 
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