ZebraLight SC600 MkII
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Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
Not on the Zebralight web site (out of stock)...and dealer stocks are drying up...might be able to find them with a bit of hunting around..
Not on the Zebralight web site (out of stock)...and dealer stocks are drying up...might be able to find them with a bit of hunting around..
Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
Hmmm, you are right, that is strange. I assumed the SC600 was still readily available. It is odd that they would not have had it's replacement in place BEFORE exhausting the production of the current model.
While waiting for their lights - this one and the S6330 - I decided to get a SkyRay King instead of the upcoming S6330 and I am glad I did. I have currently been looking at other 1 x 18650 lights but I am not willing to give up my love for a side-switch light. I am not sold on that camera button switch on the Nitecore (I think it's Nitecore). And the only other one that looked like it MIGHT satisfy me is the Spark SL6 but it's too much $.
Another less popular one is the Shadow GF1 but I have yet to hear from anyone as to how they like it. I love my Shadow S-L3, and am impressed with the quality at that price, so I may end up just getting the Shadow instead of the upcoming ZebraLight.
Hmmm, you are right, that is strange. I assumed the SC600 was still readily available. It is odd that they would not have had it's replacement in place BEFORE exhausting the production of the current model.
While waiting for their lights - this one and the S6330 - I decided to get a SkyRay King instead of the upcoming S6330 and I am glad I did. I have currently been looking at other 1 x 18650 lights but I am not willing to give up my love for a side-switch light. I am not sold on that camera button switch on the Nitecore (I think it's Nitecore). And the only other one that looked like it MIGHT satisfy me is the Spark SL6 but it's too much $.
Another less popular one is the Shadow GF1 but I have yet to hear from anyone as to how they like it. I love my Shadow S-L3, and am impressed with the quality at that price, so I may end up just getting the Shadow instead of the upcoming ZebraLight.
GordoJones88
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Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
Not sure how I missed this one. Looks very nice but I am not sure I would like the UI.
Also, it looks like the switch may have the same problem that the older ZebraLights did - accidental turn-on. Does anyone know if this is a problem with this light? If not, I would consider it if it could be turned on in high mode with just the switch (no twisting).
It's a very nice looking light for sure.
Not sure how I missed this one. Looks very nice but I am not sure I would like the UI.
Also, it looks like the switch may have the same problem that the older ZebraLights did - accidental turn-on. Does anyone know if this is a problem with this light? If not, I would consider it if it could be turned on in high mode with just the switch (no twisting).
It's a very nice looking light for sure.
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Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
It's funny that we all probably have more lights than one person will ever need, but are still to anxious to wait!
I don't care if it takes longer, as long as they are using the time to make updates. I hate buying a light and having it updated a few months later, leaving me disappointed that I was in on the first shipment. Sure some things aren't availabe at the release date, but the upgrades that are a result of an obvious lack of testing make me mad.
It's funny that we all probably have more lights than one person will ever need, but are still to anxious to wait!
I don't care if it takes longer, as long as they are using the time to make updates. I hate buying a light and having it updated a few months later, leaving me disappointed that I was in on the first shipment. Sure some things aren't availabe at the release date, but the upgrades that are a result of an obvious lack of testing make me mad.
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Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
Received a mail from Zebralight: The SC600MarkII will be available in about 4-6 weeks fromnow :thumbsup:
Received a mail from Zebralight: The SC600MarkII will be available in about 4-6 weeks fromnow :thumbsup:
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GordoJones88
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Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
Received a mail from Zebralight: The SC600MarkII will be available sometime this year!
Received a mail from Zebralight: The SC600MarkII will be available sometime this year!
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StarHalo
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Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
Friendly reminder: You need at least a 10% difference in brightness for it to be perceptible by the eye. Assuming the current SC600 nudges the 800 lumen mark, another 10% is 880 lumens - the difference between an 800 and 900 lumen light will just barely be noticeable if you're paying close attention. Much less than the disparity between a mode change, even two modes that are close.
Friendly reminder: You need at least a 10% difference in brightness for it to be perceptible by the eye. Assuming the current SC600 nudges the 800 lumen mark, another 10% is 880 lumens - the difference between an 800 and 900 lumen light will just barely be noticeable if you're paying close attention. Much less than the disparity between a mode change, even two modes that are close.
Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
That could potentially put it into the first week of March, which is over three months - a quarter of a year - after the original announcement. That's assuming there are no delays. Then there's the potential of any teething issues from the first batch, and (for me) the time it's going to take to get to the UK.
Personally, I'm looking for an EDC with a bit of extra power when needed. Where I am, by March/April the nights will be lighter and the extra power less required until November.
Their announcement effectively stopped me buying in December for Christmas, but now I'm thinking one of the others out there will do the job. Maybe an Eagletac TX25C2 or D25LC2. Or maybe look again at the CR123 route. Oh, back to the drawing board...
That could potentially put it into the first week of March, which is over three months - a quarter of a year - after the original announcement. That's assuming there are no delays. Then there's the potential of any teething issues from the first batch, and (for me) the time it's going to take to get to the UK.
Personally, I'm looking for an EDC with a bit of extra power when needed. Where I am, by March/April the nights will be lighter and the extra power less required until November.
Their announcement effectively stopped me buying in December for Christmas, but now I'm thinking one of the others out there will do the job. Maybe an Eagletac TX25C2 or D25LC2. Or maybe look again at the CR123 route. Oh, back to the drawing board...
Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
In that amount of time, there will be a number of new contenders out there, along with the existing ones that you already mentioned.
Time is on your side. All the lights are getting better fairly quickly now.
I always try to wait as long as I can to get the most upgraded technology when I make the plunge.
In that amount of time, there will be a number of new contenders out there, along with the existing ones that you already mentioned.
Time is on your side. All the lights are getting better fairly quickly now.
I always try to wait as long as I can to get the most upgraded technology when I make the plunge.
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Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
Does anyone know if the sc600 II is now compatible with CR123a's too, or just 18650? Just curious.
Does anyone know if the sc600 II is now compatible with CR123a's too, or just 18650? Just curious.
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Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
I'm assuming its going to be 18650 only, as that seems to be how ZL gets their efficiency in this light, by having a narrow voltage range on their driver. Also the MKI only took 18650's, so I'm guessing its going to be the same config.
-- Adam
I'm assuming its going to be 18650 only, as that seems to be how ZL gets their efficiency in this light, by having a narrow voltage range on their driver. Also the MKI only took 18650's, so I'm guessing its going to be the same config.
-- Adam
Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
I have a friend who is a Zebralight dealer, and he didn't know at first that the light was 1 x 18650, and he was putting 2 x CR123 in it and it was running with them in there! He used it that way for several weeks until I told him that he needed to use an 18650 in there.
Believe it or not, the thing didn't suffer any damage.
Now he's using the proper battery configuration, but apparently the Mk1 was able to withstand a good bit of over-voltage without frying.
I have a friend who is a Zebralight dealer, and he didn't know at first that the light was 1 x 18650, and he was putting 2 x CR123 in it and it was running with them in there! He used it that way for several weeks until I told him that he needed to use an 18650 in there.
Believe it or not, the thing didn't suffer any damage.
Now he's using the proper battery configuration, but apparently the Mk1 was able to withstand a good bit of over-voltage without frying.
Re: Zebralight SC600 MKII info
This is important if the light is to make you notice its brighter. We can perceive that ~ 10% as mentioned. If the light is to SEE things with, you can see more with more lux on targets.
For example, if you had a set of markers lined up, and used the dimmer beam to see what markers you could make out, and then used a stronger beam, even only a little stronger, to see if there were any additional markers that you could now see, you would see the additional areas lit up even if you could not see the added lumens. It may not even look any brighter...you'd just notice a few things out there you didn't notice before.
The reason is we can't SEE lumens. We can ONLY see the resultant lux. As most lights have, especially at closer ranges, a hot spot, it tends to make our eyes have trouble judging "brightness". (Once the lux is maxing our ability to stop down...its all the same to us) Our eyes still perceive OBJECTS though, and THOSE are more visible with even a few more lumens, depending upon the targets themselves.
This is important if the light is to make you notice its brighter. We can perceive that ~ 10% as mentioned. If the light is to SEE things with, you can see more with more lux on targets.
For example, if you had a set of markers lined up, and used the dimmer beam to see what markers you could make out, and then used a stronger beam, even only a little stronger, to see if there were any additional markers that you could now see, you would see the additional areas lit up even if you could not see the added lumens. It may not even look any brighter...you'd just notice a few things out there you didn't notice before.
The reason is we can't SEE lumens. We can ONLY see the resultant lux. As most lights have, especially at closer ranges, a hot spot, it tends to make our eyes have trouble judging "brightness". (Once the lux is maxing our ability to stop down...its all the same to us) Our eyes still perceive OBJECTS though, and THOSE are more visible with even a few more lumens, depending upon the targets themselves.
The extra lumen may not be that noticeable. But brighter better is still my rule. Never the less, not sure I`m going to upgrade. Pretty happy with my current SC600. Think I would rather use the $100 towards the purchase of a multi emitter light. Maybe the Zebralight model. Will have to see whats best down the road, when I`m ready to move on it.
neutralwhite
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with it being 4200k would that carry a higher CRI than 75?.
my pd32ue is 75cri.
thanks.
my pd32ue is 75cri.
thanks.
Cree specifies all of their neutral white XM-Ls as 75 CRI.
Re: brightness differences; while a 10–20% difference in brightness might not be noticeable or at all beneficial, a 10–20% difference in runtimes surely could. I've been using SC600 as my bike light in a city with immense light pollution (predominantly those orange sodium streetlights, no less), so I mainly use it on the highest settings. Even some extra 15 minutes at the brightness level I'm used to could mean a lot.
Re: brightness differences; while a 10–20% difference in brightness might not be noticeable or at all beneficial, a 10–20% difference in runtimes surely could. I've been using SC600 as my bike light in a city with immense light pollution (predominantly those orange sodium streetlights, no less), so I mainly use it on the highest settings. Even some extra 15 minutes at the brightness level I'm used to could mean a lot.
