Enter The mag Dragon - Beam shots added

Enter The mag Dragon - Over 300,000 lux @ 1 meter on the BFL

After Completing the MagDEFT with SST-50/5Amp/3" Aspharic Search Light
(https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/268894)

I cam up with some improvements that could make a even better Monster Power thrower.
This will be a two Phase project.

Three major improvements that I'd like to achieve:

1. Make the 3" Aspherical Head focusable & can be transferred between different Mags, handy for comparing different LEDs.
2. Over Drive the SST-50 to 7 Amp, I was able to drive the MagDEFT to spec of 5AMP, but did not have an 7 amp over-drive solution at that time.
3. The Flashlight will end up to be able to Run Aspoheric as well as reflector, greatly expand the utility of the search light.

the above solutions will need to stay in Mag2D, as I can't tolerate anything bigger, even 2D mag is too big for my liking.


Phase I, The Aspherical Head.

Starting out with the 85mm Aspherical Head from Fly Dragon.
If you are not aware of Fly Dragon, here is a link: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/271875

Fly Dragon Aspherical Head vs. 2" Mag head, good thing that it comes with the protection crown.




The head has two pieces, the bottom Piece has opening much bigger than Mag Tube, so an adaptor is needed.



First, I grind away the inside thread of the Dragon Head


Then, I took a stock Mag D head & grind the hell out of it with my 6" grinder (With the help of my trusty old table saw) to make an adapter so that I can mount the Fly Dragon head to Mag D body.

The adapter is shown to the right vs. Mag D Head, most of the Mag head
was grind away. leaving behind a 2-3mm tube with the Mag D head thread.


The adaptor only goes in half way, I have to do some more grinding
on the inside of the Dragon head, there's about 1mm material left to remove so that the adapter can be pushed all the way in.

Unfortunately, I've run out of time for this weekend, will have to continue next wk.



Just a sneak pre-view what it would look like when done:
Enter The MagDragon:



To be continued...

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Reserved for Phase II. The body: Over drving SST-50 to 7Amp in Mag 2D.

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Like it !! And I see progress in your builds
Both the concept of interchange between Mag's and the SST50 at 7Amps.

Can you tell me the diameter and thickness of the lens?
And focal length if possible..?
(As I have a SST90 and a 75mm lens at hand... wondering if I can outperform the FlyDragon. Like that beast. )

Edit: Thx for the answer.
Its 75mm, and clear window 70mm diameter.
If the 'regular' HID lens is f 0.7, and this one is thicker as you mention, it is probably around f 0.5.
( The lens Newbie used with the first aspherical experiments was f 0.55 )

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Hey ma_sha1,

Another crazy yet very creative idea. I love the stuff you do!! Will keep watch to see your progress.

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Walterk said:

Like it !! And I see progress in your builds
Both the concept of interchange between Mag's and the SST50 at 7Amps.

Can you tell me the diameter and thickness of the lens?
And focal length if possible..?
(As I have a SST90 and a 75mm lens at hand... wondering if I can outperform the FlyDragon. Like that beast. )

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The lens is 75mm, it is thicker than the 75mm ebay HID Projector lens used in the MagDEFT.

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Hill said:

Hey ma_sha1,

Another crazy yet very creative idea. I love the stuff you do!! Will keep watch to see your progress.

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Thanks, Buddy

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Great mod ma_sha1!!
Question: what is the internal diameter (where you grind the threads) of the Dragon head?
And focal length?
Thanks.

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Hi,

If you take off the Dome you automatically get 3x more lux....

Couldn't you make it a SST-50 domeless and add the aspheric lens too. I bet it would provide for even more throw/laser type beam.

I really like the adaptor mod:twothumbs

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bigchelis said:

Hi,

If you take off the Dome you automatically get 3x more lux....

Couldn't you make it a SST-50 domeless and add the aspheric lens too. I bet it would provide for even more throw/laser type beam.

I really like the adaptor mod:twothumbs

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I thought that not using the dome, less lumens would arrive to the lens.

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A380 said:

Great mod ma_sha1!!
Question: what is the internal diameter (where you grind the threads) of the Dragon head?
And focal length?
Thanks.

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I'll take some measurement later.

dont know the EFL

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bigchelis said:

Hi,

If you take off the Dome you automatically get 3x more lux....

Couldn't you make it a SST-50 domeless and add the aspheric lens too. I bet it would provide for even more throw/laser type beam.

I really like the adaptor mod:twothumbs

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Thanks.

Did you try lens? I thought dedoom helps reflector but hurt Aspheric.

why your de doom heat up more? more current?

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bigchelis said:

Hi,

If you take off the Dome you automatically get 3x more lux....

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not true with aspherical lens

I have accidentally dedomed one sst-50 and it lose lux with asphericals

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nice mod :thumbsup:

you have buy only the head with the aspherical lens?

where you buy the head? price of the head?internal diameter of the threads?

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moviles said:

nice mod :thumbsup:
you have buy only the head with the aspherical lens?

where you buy the head? price of the head?internal diameter of the threads?

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Thanks!

Yes, I contacted the FlyDragon dealer HKequipment &
they sold me the head for $55 shipped.

The internal diameter is 75mm with a ring holding the edge of the lens,
The lens opening is about 70mm, so the lens will pretty much throw the same as the magDEFT,
but I'll increase the Surface brightness (Die luminance)by over driving the SST-50.

I might even do up a XRE R2 Mag 1D to compare with, since the head will be interchangeable between Mag bodies.
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+1 to Hill's post about your mod's being fun to watch. So for $55 you get the head, the bezel and the aspheric? That's a great price. I like the shot from the side showing how deep the fins are. Should give excellent thermal management. That's another subscribe for me.

[Edit] The link for just the head is under the Searchlight tab. Out of stock on both colors though.:mecry:

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how often do they re-stock there items? i would like one but i see there all out ?

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Al Combs said:

+1 to Hill's post about your mod's being fun to watch. So for $55 you get the head, the bezel and the aspheric? That's a great price. I like the shot from the side showing how deep the fins are. Should give excellent thermal management. That's another subscribe for me.

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Thanks Buddy, yes, It's indeed an excellent deal. A fancy mag aspheric bezel had cost in this range a while back,
Smaller 2" Aspheric heads for A9 etc. isn't much cheaper. The Dragon head will eat those & regular mag Aspherical for lunch, pair up with a hard driven R2, it'll probably give DEFT a run for it's money.

Al Combs said:

[Edit] The link for just the head is under the Searchlight tab. Out of stock on both colors though.:mecry:

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Don't cry, I have a soft heart, so here is the trick on how to get one:

Go to ebay & search Flydragon SST-90, then contact the seller HKequipment, ask him if you could buy just the Aspherical head w/o the flashlight. That's how I got it.

Good luck & Hurry, before the crowds get here :devil:
Oh, don't forget to remind him to send referral fee to me
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beam24 said:

how often do they re-stock there items? i would like one but i see there all out ?

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FYI, even if they have in stock, the store charges $33 to ship one head to US. HKequipment is much better, good luck.

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ma_sha1 said:

Go to ebay & search Flydragon SST-90, then contact the seller HKequipment, ask him if you could buy just the Aspherical head w/o the flashlight. That's how I got it.

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Thanks for the tip. :thumbsup:

ma_sha1 said:

FYI, even if they have in stock, the store charges $33 to ship one head to US. HKequipment is much better, good luck.

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Yikes, that really is good to know. :twothumbs

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Had about 2 more hours of grinding, filling & fitting tonight, I was able to fit the adapter all the way in.
lots of work, but I think it's worth it:








Now that the magDragon head is done, I'll be moving to building the rest of the flashlight soon.