Newb Recommendation

The Professor

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1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
__X__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :)

____Less than $25.
____Less than $50.
__X__Less than $100.
____Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
____I'm flexible, tell we what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________


3) Format:

__X__I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
____Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
__X__Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
__X__Holster carry.
____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
____I don't care.
____I don't know.
____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:

__X__LED
____Incandescent
____HID


6) Manufacturer:

__X__I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
____I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a "host" or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a "drop-in" emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this option can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs.


7) What battery type do you want to use?

____I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today's most powerful lights)
____I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
____I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
__X__I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
__X__I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
____I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
__X__I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
____I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I walk ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
__X__30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
__X__50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
__X__30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
__X__90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase "you get what you pay for" is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A "night-stand" light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
__X__Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't care.
____I don't know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (twist head to tighten, and the light will stay on until head is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today's high end lights).
____I don't care.
__X__I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

__X__A simple on-off is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
____I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don't care.
____I don't know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (hard anodized) (this is the most common for today's flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
____I don't care.
__X__I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________.


15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____"Hybrid" light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments

I basically want a good "critter" light that I can mount in my truck and keep plugged in (in the truck). I've got a small farmette and I am WAY out in the country (read in: lots and lots of predators that my Ruger and I like to chase).

Thanks in advance!
 

PeaceOfMind

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To summarize, sounds like you want a semi-throwy, medium sized light that can take rechargeables and has a simple user interface.

I would suggest the 4Sevens Quark Turbo Series

-Good throw
-Very efficient and bright (uses latest Cree XP-G R5 LEDs)
-Simple user interface (initially you program the brightness levels you want, and then you have one brightness that comes on when the head is on tight, and one that comes on when the head is loose - so you get to pick two settings to your liking)
-Great quality light/great customer service from 4Sevens, and within your stated price range
-Available in different battery configurations depending on your preference

Since you want to plug it in in your truck, you'll need some compatible batteries with a car charger. I recommend this combo:

Batteries for 2xCR123 version (need two)
Battery Charger
Car Adapter

You could also find yourself some AA rechargeables that have a charger with a car adapter and use those in the 2xAA version. If you go this route, look for NiMH AA batteries for best performance.

NOTE: With rechargeable Li-Iion batteries such as this, I'd recommend you supervise them while charging and remove them from the charger when they are done - i.e. charge them while driving or something and don't just leave them plugged in. I'd also advise you to avoid leaving batteries in the truck if you live somewhere hot and have your truck parked in the sun in the middle of the day - excessive heat could ruin your batteries.
 

The Professor

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PeaceOfMind -

WOW! lovecpf Thanks so much for that awesome recommendation. I had never seen the quarks (remember, I'm a newb) but had read a lot about them as I read through CPF archives. That TURBO looks like just the ticket.

Quick question: is there a battery configuration that would not be effected by staying in the heat? I would like to be able to leave both the light and extra batteries in my truck at all times if that is possible.

Thanks again!!
 

fishx65

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I keep a Dorcy 220 Lumen in the truck for critter spotting duties and it does an awesome job. This torch has a charging port and comes with a car and wall charger. Dorcydirect.com has them for $50.00 plus 20% off right now. You can add a spare battery stick and nice nylon holster at a great price. I would call this a pencil beam with decent spill. I have two of these and they have proven very durable.

http://www.dorcydirect.com/p-158-41-4299-220-lumens-rechargeable-led.aspx

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/217871&highlight=dorcy+220
 
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The Professor

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That Dorcy seems like exactly what I have been looking for! Thanks for the direction. Any experience with the durability on that?
 

PeaceOfMind

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Quick question: is there a battery configuration that would not be effected by staying in the heat? I would like to be able to leave both the light and extra batteries in my truck at all times if that is possible.

The only batteries that would hold up really well in a lot of heat would be lithium primary batteries, which are not rechargeable. However they do great in both hot and cold, and last a long time, so you might find them acceptable.

"CR123" batteries are Lithium primaries (as opposed to the RCR123s that I linked, which are Lithium-Ion). 4Sevens makes some, as do most of the big battery companies - all readily available online.

For AA's, if you want to go with the Quark Turbo 2xAA, Energizer makes some Lithium primary AAs - either Energizer "Ultmate Lithium" (which you'll see with a big "8x Longer!" advertisement on the package) or Energizer "Advanced Lithium" (which you'll see with a big "4x Longer!" advertisement on the package).

Rechargeable batteries might be okay in the heat (or cold in the winter), it depends how hot (or cold) your truck really gets. You may just have a reduced lifespan of the batteries if it's not too extreme. If you go the rechargeable route, at least leave them out of direct sun.
 
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