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I've noticed that recently alot of malkoff P60 dropins are being sold in CPFM, I'm personally confused with the nomenclature between numbers [like the difference between M60LL and M61LL] and it appears that the sellers have no idea either, and that products have only the name and price listed, with few to none between regarding the characteristics of the particular drop-in. I looked up and down the forum and it occurred to me that no index exists anywhere of these dropins. it was then I realized that Malkoff shuts down a webpage everytime a drop-in was discontinued, leaving me with 404s when looking up the specs
For example: M60L web page http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop2/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_14_18&products_id=8
As far as I understand it, Malkoff's line of dropins began of with 6V flashlights. So everything beguns with the "M6-" prefix
To my knowledge the list expanded to M60, M60L, M60F, M60LF, M60LL, M60WF, M60WLF, before pushing into M61, M61L, M61LL, M61W, M61WL and then dropping into M30, M31, M31W...
The following is a loosely compiled list of available P60 drop-ins from his webpage, its easier to compare dropins without needing multiple tabs or multiple windows.
Name: M31
Tint: Cool white[?]
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 350+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff Valiant VME Head, and SureFire 3P flashlight.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 0.8 -3.3 volts. >1.8v for full output. NOT li-ion compatible. 1 Amp at 3 volts and 1.4 Amps at 2.4 volts.
Output: "~230 measured OTF lumens at 1.8-3.3v and 150 lumens at 1.2v."
Runtime: Unknown
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m30-to-fit-a-surefire-p-29.html
Name: M31W
Tint: Neutral
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 350+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff Valiant VME Head, and SureFire 3P flashlight.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 0.8 -3.3 volts. >1.8v for full output. NOT li-ion compatible. 1 Amp at 3 volts and 1.4 Amps at 2.4 volts.
Output: "~210 measured OTF lumens at 1.8-3.3v and 130 lumens at 1.2v."
Runtime: Unknown
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m30w-warm-tint-beam-to-fit-a-surefire-flashlight-p-31.html
:thanks: Selectron for M60 info
Name: M60
Tint: WG
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XRE 7090 Q5
Optics/Reflector: CREE 8 degree optic
Throw Range: 350+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V, 780ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: 235+ Lumens
Runtime: 1.5 Hours on 2xCR123s
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20080107...om/main_page/product_info/products_id/18.html
CPF Review/Beamshots: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/183924
CPF Review [SureFire 9P with Malkoff M60 review]: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/208772
M60 in 6P runtime: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2835305&postcount=128
M60 in 9P runtime: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2859303&postcount=177
Name: M60F
Tint: WG[?]
Beam: Flood
LED: CREE XRE 7090
Optics/Reflector: CREE 20 degree optic
Throw Range: ~120 feet
Compatible Lights: P60 Dropin compatible
Electrical Characteristics: 750ma [Vin = 750ma]
Output:220+ Lumens
Runtime: 1.5+ hours on 2xCR123A
Source: http://flashlightconnection.com/Malkoff-Devices/Malkoff-M60F-Drop-In-p97.html
:thanks: Selectron for M60L info
Name: M60L
Tint: WG
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XRE 7090 Q5
Optics/Reflector: Khatod 6 degree optic
Throw Range: 150+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V, 350ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: 140+/- Lumens
Runtime: 4.5 Hours on 2xCR123s
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20080314...dex.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=20
Name: M60LF
Tint: WG[?]
Beam: Flood
LED: CREE XRE 7090
Optics: CREE 20 Degree
Throw Range: ~80+/- feet
Compatible lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Current draw approximately 350ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: ~140 lumens
Runtime: 4.5 hours on 2 CR123 primary batteries.
Source: http://flashlightconnection.com/Malkoff-Devices/Malkoff-M60LF-Drop-In-p99.html
Name: M60LL
Tint: WG
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XRE 7090 Q5
Optics/Reflector: Khatod 6 degree optic
Throw Range: 100+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V. current draw approximately 170ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: 80+/- Emitter Lumens
Runtime: ~8 Hours on 2xCR123A
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20080314...dex.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=25
Name: M60WF
Tint: Warm
Beam: Flood
LED: CREE XRE 7090
Optics: CREE 20 Degree
Throw Range: ~120+/- feet
Compatible lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V. current draw approximately 750ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: Approximately 170 lumens
Runtime: "1 1/2+ hours on 2 CR123 primary batteries."
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60wf-warm-tint-flood-to-fit-a-surefire-flashlight-p-35.html
Name: M60WLF
Tint: Warm
Beam: low output flood
LED: CREE XRE 7090
Optics: CREE 20 degree
Throw Range: "typically limited to approximately 60+/- feet."
Compatible Lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V. Current draw approximately 350ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: Approximately 100 lumens
Runtime: "approximately 4 1/2 hours on 2 CR123 primary batteries."
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/...put-flood-for-a-surefire-flashlight-p-36.html
Name: M61L
Tint: Cool white[?]
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 200+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff MD2, Elzetta ZFL-M60, and SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.4-9V. Below 3.4V the output is direct drive. Current draw appriximately 300ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: "approximately 175 OTF Lumens"
Runtime: "approximately 5 hours on two CR123 primary batteries with a nice long taper as voltage drops."
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60l-low-output-to-fit-surefire-p-8.html
Name: M61LL
Tint: Cool white[?]
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 100+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff MD2, Elzetta ZFL-M60, and SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.4-9V. Below 3.4V the output is direct drive. Current draw appriximately 150ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: "approximately 100 OTF Lumens"
Runtime: "approximately 10 hours on two CR123 primary batteries with a nice long taper as voltage drops."
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60ll-lowest-output-to-fit-surefire-p-9.html
Name: M61W
Tint: Neutral
Beam: primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 350+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff MD2, Elzetta ZFL-M60, and SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.4-9V. Below 3.4V the output is direct drive. current draw approximately 650ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: Approximately 240 OTF Lumens
Runtime: Approximately 2 hours on 2xCR123A
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60w-warm-tint-beam-to-fit-a-surefire-flashlight-p-33.html
CPF info: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/283108
Name: M61WL
Tint: Warm
Beam: primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 150+ feet range
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff MD2, Elzetta ZFL-M60, and SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.4-9v. Below 3.4V the output is direct drive. current draw approximately 300ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: Approximately 125 OTF Lumens
Runtime: Approximately 5 hours on 2xCR123A
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60wl-warm-tint-low-output-to-fit-a-surefire-flashlight-p-34.html
Name: M91 [Added by pnwoutdoors, :thanks:]
Tint: T6 [?]
Beam: Moderate throw with generous spill
LED: CREE XM-L
Optics/Reflector: McGizmo McR-20, by Don McLeish
Throw Range: 250+ feet
Compatible Lights:
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 6.5 - 12V; below 6.5V it will flash repeatedly or turn off (depending on batteries used)
Output: 500 lumens (OTF)
Runtime: 1.5 Hours on 3xCR123 "primary" cells, followed by a long taper/drawdown in output
Source: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m...pin-p-107.html
CPF Review/Beamshots:
There were a few custom builds flying around such as the M60 MCE
Nonproduction: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/225508
Custom built for users Lampenfisch, bigchelis, jslappa, and others.
Misc:
M60F beamshot: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/198954
M60LL in 6P runtime: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2815326&postcount=108
M60LL in G3 runtime: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2815335&postcount=110
It was mentioned on the malkoff page that unless the dropin is a low output model "L or LL," Do not operate more than 15 minutes in a plastic type light.
I'm looking for info on M61 and M30 regarding the following attributes. I am confident to suggest that the only difference between M60F and M60WF [as well as M60LF versus M60WLF] is the tint...but I'm not sure about M30
None of Malkoff's original websites are working. Originally I wanted to compile a list of the different dropins in a graphical manner indicative of comparison between attributes. At this time however, information regarding the discontinued editions are not easily found. Most of the available threads are primarily discussing user experience as well as performance with different batteries or lights. It is hardly informative to serve the intention of quick references.
Its not so much a reference for others to see what new model they'll want to buy in the future, but instead for the benefit of the members who own malkoff's older dropins to know what they have on hand. Consider it an act to preserve a part of Malkoff history.
To make it easier for others who may use this thread as a quick reference, just copy the code and paste in the different attributes :thanks:
For example: M60L web page http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop2/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_14_18&products_id=8
As far as I understand it, Malkoff's line of dropins began of with 6V flashlights. So everything beguns with the "M6-" prefix
To my knowledge the list expanded to M60, M60L, M60F, M60LF, M60LL, M60WF, M60WLF, before pushing into M61, M61L, M61LL, M61W, M61WL and then dropping into M30, M31, M31W...
The following is a loosely compiled list of available P60 drop-ins from his webpage, its easier to compare dropins without needing multiple tabs or multiple windows.
Name: M31
Tint: Cool white[?]
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 350+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff Valiant VME Head, and SureFire 3P flashlight.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 0.8 -3.3 volts. >1.8v for full output. NOT li-ion compatible. 1 Amp at 3 volts and 1.4 Amps at 2.4 volts.
Output: "~230 measured OTF lumens at 1.8-3.3v and 150 lumens at 1.2v."
Runtime: Unknown
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m30-to-fit-a-surefire-p-29.html
Name: M31W
Tint: Neutral
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 350+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff Valiant VME Head, and SureFire 3P flashlight.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 0.8 -3.3 volts. >1.8v for full output. NOT li-ion compatible. 1 Amp at 3 volts and 1.4 Amps at 2.4 volts.
Output: "~210 measured OTF lumens at 1.8-3.3v and 130 lumens at 1.2v."
Runtime: Unknown
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m30w-warm-tint-beam-to-fit-a-surefire-flashlight-p-31.html
:thanks: Selectron for M60 info
Name: M60
Tint: WG
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XRE 7090 Q5
Optics/Reflector: CREE 8 degree optic
Throw Range: 350+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V, 780ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: 235+ Lumens
Runtime: 1.5 Hours on 2xCR123s
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20080107...om/main_page/product_info/products_id/18.html
CPF Review/Beamshots: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/183924
CPF Review [SureFire 9P with Malkoff M60 review]: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/208772
M60 in 6P runtime: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2835305&postcount=128
M60 in 9P runtime: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2859303&postcount=177
Name: M60F
Tint: WG[?]
Beam: Flood
LED: CREE XRE 7090
Optics/Reflector: CREE 20 degree optic
Throw Range: ~120 feet
Compatible Lights: P60 Dropin compatible
Electrical Characteristics: 750ma [Vin = 750ma]
Output:220+ Lumens
Runtime: 1.5+ hours on 2xCR123A
Source: http://flashlightconnection.com/Malkoff-Devices/Malkoff-M60F-Drop-In-p97.html
:thanks: Selectron for M60L info
Name: M60L
Tint: WG
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XRE 7090 Q5
Optics/Reflector: Khatod 6 degree optic
Throw Range: 150+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V, 350ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: 140+/- Lumens
Runtime: 4.5 Hours on 2xCR123s
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20080314...dex.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=20
Name: M60LF
Tint: WG[?]
Beam: Flood
LED: CREE XRE 7090
Optics: CREE 20 Degree
Throw Range: ~80+/- feet
Compatible lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Current draw approximately 350ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: ~140 lumens
Runtime: 4.5 hours on 2 CR123 primary batteries.
Source: http://flashlightconnection.com/Malkoff-Devices/Malkoff-M60LF-Drop-In-p99.html
Name: M60LL
Tint: WG
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XRE 7090 Q5
Optics/Reflector: Khatod 6 degree optic
Throw Range: 100+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V. current draw approximately 170ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: 80+/- Emitter Lumens
Runtime: ~8 Hours on 2xCR123A
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20080314...dex.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=25
Name: M60WF
Tint: Warm
Beam: Flood
LED: CREE XRE 7090
Optics: CREE 20 Degree
Throw Range: ~120+/- feet
Compatible lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V. current draw approximately 750ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: Approximately 170 lumens
Runtime: "1 1/2+ hours on 2 CR123 primary batteries."
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60wf-warm-tint-flood-to-fit-a-surefire-flashlight-p-35.html
Name: M60WLF
Tint: Warm
Beam: low output flood
LED: CREE XRE 7090
Optics: CREE 20 degree
Throw Range: "typically limited to approximately 60+/- feet."
Compatible Lights: Designed for SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.8-9V, Direct drive <3.8V. Current draw approximately 350ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: Approximately 100 lumens
Runtime: "approximately 4 1/2 hours on 2 CR123 primary batteries."
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/...put-flood-for-a-surefire-flashlight-p-36.html
Name: M61L
Tint: Cool white[?]
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 200+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff MD2, Elzetta ZFL-M60, and SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.4-9V. Below 3.4V the output is direct drive. Current draw appriximately 300ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: "approximately 175 OTF Lumens"
Runtime: "approximately 5 hours on two CR123 primary batteries with a nice long taper as voltage drops."
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60l-low-output-to-fit-surefire-p-8.html
Name: M61LL
Tint: Cool white[?]
Beam: Primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 100+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff MD2, Elzetta ZFL-M60, and SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.4-9V. Below 3.4V the output is direct drive. Current draw appriximately 150ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: "approximately 100 OTF Lumens"
Runtime: "approximately 10 hours on two CR123 primary batteries with a nice long taper as voltage drops."
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60ll-lowest-output-to-fit-surefire-p-9.html
Name: M61W
Tint: Neutral
Beam: primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 350+ feet
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff MD2, Elzetta ZFL-M60, and SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.4-9V. Below 3.4V the output is direct drive. current draw approximately 650ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: Approximately 240 OTF Lumens
Runtime: Approximately 2 hours on 2xCR123A
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60w-warm-tint-beam-to-fit-a-surefire-flashlight-p-33.html
CPF info: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/283108
Name: M61WL
Tint: Warm
Beam: primarily throw
LED: CREE XPG
Optics/Reflector: Proprietary McGizmo OP
Throw Range: 150+ feet range
Compatible Lights: Designed for Malkoff MD2, Elzetta ZFL-M60, and SureFire 6P, 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 flashlights.
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 3.4-9v. Below 3.4V the output is direct drive. current draw approximately 300ma [Vin = 6V]
Output: Approximately 125 OTF Lumens
Runtime: Approximately 5 hours on 2xCR123A
Malkoff Product Page: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60wl-warm-tint-low-output-to-fit-a-surefire-flashlight-p-34.html
Name: M91 [Added by pnwoutdoors, :thanks:]
Tint: T6 [?]
Beam: Moderate throw with generous spill
LED: CREE XM-L
Optics/Reflector: McGizmo McR-20, by Don McLeish
Throw Range: 250+ feet
Compatible Lights:
Electrical Characteristics: Vin = 6.5 - 12V; below 6.5V it will flash repeatedly or turn off (depending on batteries used)
Output: 500 lumens (OTF)
Runtime: 1.5 Hours on 3xCR123 "primary" cells, followed by a long taper/drawdown in output
Source: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m...pin-p-107.html
CPF Review/Beamshots:
There were a few custom builds flying around such as the M60 MCE
Nonproduction: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/225508
Custom built for users Lampenfisch, bigchelis, jslappa, and others.
Misc:
M60F beamshot: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/198954
M60LL in 6P runtime: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2815326&postcount=108
M60LL in G3 runtime: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2815335&postcount=110
It was mentioned on the malkoff page that unless the dropin is a low output model "L or LL," Do not operate more than 15 minutes in a plastic type light.
I'm looking for info on M61 and M30 regarding the following attributes. I am confident to suggest that the only difference between M60F and M60WF [as well as M60LF versus M60WLF] is the tint...but I'm not sure about M30
Code:
Name:
Tint:
Beam:
LED:
Optics/Reflector:
Throw Range:
Compatible Lights:
Electrical Characteristics:
Output:
Runtime:
CPF/Review, malkoff Sales page, runtime or beamshot webpage:
Its not so much a reference for others to see what new model they'll want to buy in the future, but instead for the benefit of the members who own malkoff's older dropins to know what they have on hand. Consider it an act to preserve a part of Malkoff history.
To make it easier for others who may use this thread as a quick reference, just copy the code and paste in the different attributes :thanks:
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