My Fire-foxes 35W&40W HID

Hello everyone.I am a novice.Best regards

This is my collection of two HID a flashlight.


Fire-foxes 35W&40W HID The 35W HID.Measurements: L 186mm.diameter 44mm.diameter 70mm,5500k tube.Use three 18650 batteries ,Supply 3,000 lumens light output .Can continuous output 45 minutes.186mm Really very small.

Flux: the 3,500 lumen
Startup time: acuities 15s (cold) more than 3 seconds (hot)
Colour temperature: 5500K
Bulb life: 3000 hours
Volume: 186mm*44mm. lamp holder diameter 70mm
Weight: 420 g. (excluding battery)
Material: 6061 aviation aluminum
Surface treatment: hardened oxidation
Lens material: ultraviolet type high temperature sclerosis optical glass
Stability 35W intelligent digital communication for stability and implement
Battery protection: 10% soc flashing suggest (still don't appear support lithium iron phosphate battery)
Waterproof: waterproof splash

The 40W HID.Measurements: L 210mm diameter 49mm. lamp holder 80mm,Weight: some 900 grams (excluding battery).Use philips 4300K 40W tube.Provide light output 3700 lumens.Use four 18650 batteries,Can use continuously 45 minutes.

Flux: the 4,000 lumen
Colour temperature: 4300K
Bulb life: 3000 hours
Lens material: coating type filter ultraviolet broadband increase through strengthening lens (K9 optical substrate)
Optical glass coating: medium membrane protection silver
Startup time: more than 15 seconds (cold); More than 3 seconds (hot)
Volume: 210mm*49mm. lamp holder diameter 80mm
Weight: some 900 g (excluding battery)
Material: 6061 aviation aluminum
Surface treatment: low temperature hard anode oxidation
Ballast: 40 w intelligent digital communication stability device
Output power: 38 1/2 + 0.5 W
Waterproof: IPX7, IP67 soaking, short-term
Supply mode: user replaceable battery frame, battery




The 35W very small and contrast Thrunite




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The left was 35W HID



From left：XML-T6 Olight SR50 Fire-foxes35W 40W

Great pictures! I really like the Firefox 35W! I remember these being talked about on another forum but at the time I don't think they were available in the states. It would be great to know where these can be purchased. Thanks

now if they made a handle wot take double the batteries they i would be interested, 45min is a bit low , hour and a half with out messing about with cell chainges...

Damn I want that 40W F-F! Looks just awesome. Is there any chance to buy those from Europe?

coolmeester said:

Damn I want that 40W F-F! Looks just awesome. Is there any chance to buy those from Europe?

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40W F-F also limited Players customized version, now can't buy it

Oh i LOVE that 40W. That's exactly what I've been looking for, a real hand held flashlight sized HID without the blue 5500K+ LED type output that most of them are famous for.

It is a little larger than the 35W, but the output is SO much nicer. I would even prefer a little warmer than 4300K, but this is a big step in the right direction!

It looks like we're about where we should be, an M6 sized HID with warm natural output!!!

At 80mm head size and 4 x 18650, this is waaay larger than an M6. Still, it's the smallest "40W" light that I've seen and the "35W" version is about the size of a WE Boxer.

With regards to the comments made about runtime, we've got plenty of choices when it comes to larger 6-8 x 18650 HID lights. The data point about these lights is their small size and that's what makes them unique.

Patriot said:

At 80mm head size and 4 x 18650, this is waaay larger than an M6. Still, it's the smallest "40W" light that I've seen and the "35W" version is about the size of a WE Boxer.

With regards to the comments made about runtime, we've got plenty of choices when it comes to larger 6-8 x 18650 HID lights. The data point about these lights is their small size and that's what makes them unique.

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It's true,I just like it small Especially 35w F-F.It can be said is the world's smallest 35W HID

What I like is the 18650's. Most HID Flashlights have proprietary cells, which many CPF members find either too expensive, over-rated or defective.

Patriot said:

At 80mm head size and 4 x 18650, this is waaay larger than an M6. Still, it's the smallest "40W" light that I've seen and the "35W" version is about the size of a WE Boxer.

With regards to the comments made about runtime, we've got plenty of choices when it comes to larger 6-8 x 18650 HID lights. The data point about these lights is their small size and that's what makes them unique.

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Is it? The OP's description of the dimensions are a bit confusing, but he mentioned 210mm for the "tube". I'm assuming he is just referring to the body length and not of the body and the head together. If 210mm refers to the overall length of the light, then it is pretty close to the M6 overall length of 197mm.

JulianP said:

What I like is the 18650's. Most HID Flashlights have proprietary cells, which many CPF members find either too expensive, over-rated or defective.

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Absolutely. And you can carry plenty of spare cells with you for extra runtime. The holy grail I think is HID's like this that will also run on primaries in place of the 18650's in emergencies. Plus these batteries are easily replaceable with any manufacturer's 18650 cells when old ones get tired or ware out. Everyone and their mother produces 18650 cells these days.

I like the smaller 35W better. There's hardly any power differences between the two,
one out put is 35W & the other out put is 38W.

The brightness difference has more to do with Philips bulb used in the 40W version, but
I don't like the yellow/green tint from Phillips 4300K HID bulb. The picture looks better than whan I've seen when I played with Phillip bulb, but still I can see the hint of unpleasant tints.

At the size of 24W boxer (~30Klux?), the 35 FF should go above 100Klux, as HID ballast under 35W are extremely inefficient. I want a FF 35W, Now

ma_sha1 said:

At the size of 24W boxer (~30Klux?), the 35 FF should go above 100Klux, as HID ballast under 35W are extremely inefficient. I want a FF 35W, Now

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You can have it now, but you'll have to buy in a lot of 100. :naughty:

Sexy lights eh....I thought I saw a hint of Sunwayman.

ampdude said:

Is it? The OP's description of the dimensions are a bit confusing, but he mentioned 210mm for the "tube". I'm assuming he is just referring to the body length and not of the body and the head together. If 210mm refers to the overall length of the light, then it is pretty close to the M6 overall length of 197mm.

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Yeah it's 210 x 49mm tube x 80mm lamp holder, meaning either head or reflector diameter. Even the 35W light will take up more room than a M6 in a pack with its 70mm head. Still, I wouldn't have thought, 5 years ago, that we'd see lights that were close in size to the M6 yet 6 times more output. Judging from the specs, the 35W light would destroy the WE Boxer, yet it's slightly smaller than the Boxer, including a 7mm smaller head diameter. Now I'm really wondering now about thermal issues since even the Boxer body hits 145F degrees in 30 minutes if you're not holding it.

So true about the battery formula! This is one of the reasons why I like and use the WE Boxer, FM Megallennium, Raptor RRT-3 and other 3 x 18650 systems.

Ethen: Great review! The 40w version is just what I'm looking for as a suitable pair-up with my Titanium Innovations L35. I was looking to purchase the Novae Products 26w HID but I didn't like the idea of a proprietary battery pack(like the L35) due to the fact that if the battery packs fail, its expensive to replace. Whereas using readily available 18650 cells solves that problem for me. However from what you've mentioned, we cannot buy it yet?? So when does it go on sale? Will there be an introductory CPF special for CPF members?

They are custom lights made by a guy in Chinese flashlight forum shoudian.com, not available elsewhere unfortunately.

You could always post a WTB on the linked forum. I've just had a browse around the site, Google translate does a half decent job of it.

How much do these lights go for? Damnit these would be so awesome to have!!

Fusion_m8 said:

Ethen: Great review! The 40w version is just what I'm looking for as a suitable pair-up with my Titanium Innovations L35. I was looking to purchase the Novae Products 26w HID but I didn't like the idea of a proprietary battery pack(like the L35) due to the fact that if the battery packs fail, its expensive to replace. Whereas using readily available 18650 cells solves that problem for me. However from what you've mentioned, we cannot buy it yet?? So when does it go on sale? Will there be an introductory CPF special for CPF members?

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Hi Fusion m8:
You have cannot buy it.Because FF is the release of limited customized,But perhaps you can buy secondhand
Soon may be have a Enterprise Edition FF

ampdude said:

How much do these lights go for? Damnit these would be so awesome to have!!

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35W FF is 750RMB. 40W is 1500RMB,Because is custom-made version of players, without any additional.
The designer is a good man