Are your Flashlights EMP-protected?

[subwoofer]

"FACTS are the ENEMY of Truth!"

But such Truth is an illusion...

 

[RetroTechie]

1.) A false flag event it not "an extremely low probability event", if you research the history of such.

Indeed... the world has been on the brink of a nuclear holocaust at least once or twice iirc (Cuba crisis, some false alarms that inspired movies like "War Games", etc). Personally I'm enough of a survivor that I'd try to at least survive an initial blast, just to have a look on 'the day after'. One could always kill him/herself later... That said: given a choice, I'll take tsunami / earthquake / zombie apocalypse any day over a nuclear holocaust. Flashlights might be useful in any case...

The cardboard lining all around and top to bottom is, if I recall correctly, to help said electronics withstand a vibration and protect it from something else I can't quite recall at the moment (let us know if you look it up!)

Imagine a direct lightning strike to a car you're in. The metal body will provide a path for the electricity to flow, while you're safe in your seat. But if you touch that metal body over some length, your body could become part of the conducting material(s).

I suspect lining a metal can with non-conductive material has a similar purpose, to keep contents isolated from the outer shell through which large currents may be flowing @ some point.

 

[dc38]

Anorak for flashlights! That's just something mcnair55 might say :laughing: anyhow, you might find it productive to turn your glove compartments and other storage areas into faraday cages for mobile emp protection. I wonder if one could line their jacket pockets with foil blankets and insulation for some on person emp protection...

 

[luxxlightsaber]

Wow, you made my day, because NO ONE has EVER called me a "smart mofo"! haha

Yes, well-researched "enlightened" minds DO think alike, don't they? (wink wink)

Yes, that certainly WOULD suck = to have $6,000. to $10,000. dollars worth of flashlights and not ONE will work because there was no cardboard-lined Galvanized Steel trash can to hold duplicates and back-ups when the solar flare's pulse came through.

How DOES one face one's wife if THAT were to happen? (or SURVIVE her? haha)

"Have no fear, dear, an EMP-protected flashaholic is here!"

Lol!! False flag emp proof flashaholic in the house!!

 

[dr. Chernobyl]

I dont have faraday cage but I trust that my maglite 6D wont fail if something bad happens

 

[Kilroytheknifesnob]

The EMP threat is vastly overrated. According to the little research that exists, most modern electronics (including cars) would SURVIVE an nuclear-bomb generated EMP. The ones most likely to be affected would probably be destroyed by the blast. (Search for "National Capital Region Key Response Planning Factors for the Aftermath of Nuclear Terrorism" for a fascinating read) A flashlight would probably be one of the least likely devices to be damaged by an EMP, due to being almost entirely enclosed by metal. So, given the extreme unlikeliness of an EMP attack, and the very unlikely chance of your flashlight being damaged by that attack, I don't think it's worth more than a fleeting thought. I would suggest spending your time and money preparing for high-probability disasters like hurricanes, fires, earthquakes, extended power outages, snowstorms, etc. Maybe buy a solar charger instead of that trashcan?

 

[RetroTechie]

I wonder if one could line their jacket pockets with foil blankets and insulation for some on person emp protection...

You missed the "green" option: how to harness that EMP energy to quick-charge one's batteries. Preferably an on-person, portable solution. Who needs solar chargers when EMP events lurk on the horizon...

 

[mcnair55]

You missed the "green" option: how to harness that EMP energy to quick-charge one's batteries. Preferably an on-person, portable solution. Who needs solar chargers when EMP events lurk on the horizon...

With ideas like that you should become a politician.Bravo sir.

 

[LetThereBeLight!]

The EMP threat is vastly overrated. According to the little research that exists, most modern electronics (including cars) would SURVIVE an nuclear-bomb generated EMP. The ones most likely to be affected would probably be destroyed by the blast. (Search for "National Capital Region Key Response Planning Factors for the Aftermath of Nuclear Terrorism" for a fascinating read) A flashlight would probably be one of the least likely devices to be damaged by an EMP, due to being almost entirely enclosed by metal. So, given the extreme unlikeliness of an EMP attack, and the very unlikely chance of your flashlight being damaged by that attack, I don't think it's worth more than a fleeting thought. I would suggest spending your time and money preparing for high-probability disasters like hurricanes, fires, earthquakes, extended power outages, snowstorms, etc. Maybe buy a solar charger instead of that trashcan?

For your information and edification:

1. According to the research I and many others have done, only pre-1972 cars would work after an EMP.

2. You must be a government DISinformation Specialist because ALL modern electronics will NOT survive, repeat: will NOT survive any EMP.

3. Likewise: Metal enclosures alone do NOT EMP-protect.

I suppose you did not know that two of our Generals refused our president's order to set off an EMP over the Northeast during GRID EX II this past Fall, an event during which our country permitted Chinese officials to learn of our grid infrastructure? See wwwdotthecommonsenseshowdotcom for recent articles on this and if you do some research you will find plenty of other confirming research.

As for spending my "time and money preparing for hurricanes"...et. al., I already a sufficiently prepared for such and "flashlights", yes, FLASHLIGHTS, are my very LAST "prep" item, the research for which led me to candle power forums.

Oh, lest I forget, I already own several solar chargers which yes, are EMP-protected.

I found your post to be quite disinformationally dismissive but I think you will be relieved to know that an EMP will not harm your knife collection!

Lastly, you know something my fellow Candlepower posters?

Those that THINK they know it all upset those of us who DO!

haha

Or as Gandhi put it, "Truth needs to be repeated as long as there are men who disbelieve it."

Amen!

 

[mcnair55]

http://thecommonsenseshow.com/

All we need now is Alex Jones to post on here.

 

[dr. Chernobyl]

For your information and edification:

1. According to the research I and many others have done, only pre-1972 cars would work after an EMP.

I think cars made in eastern bloc countries after 1972 would also work without problem

 

[RedLED]

Yes it is a total load of rubbish as you would never get the chance to find your bird cage or waste bin in the event and i would wager a cage with cardboard is as much use as an ashtray on a motorcycle.Best advice is those old fashioned mag lites that do not rely on electronics and get totally away from any towns asap as your car will not be going anywhere either. :nana:



Just because you read some barm pot idea on something like Wikilies does not make it right either.As part of your research i suggest you visit a former Cold War bunker that is open to the public,even better if it has a mock bomb going off which totally disorientates you.

The one near me states.

A surprise attack we would get just a 4 minute warning.

Lights would be the last of your worries as you would be meeting your god.

Four minutes is more than enough time for me to set up photograph the event...the photographer for the end of the world, I want that job! I better use film!!!

I want a credential that states EOW PHOTO ALL ACCESS OF WHAT IS LEFT.

and, I bet St. Peter is going to tell me" We need them Right away!"

 

[jabe1]

I believe many of us have considered the impact of an EMP specific event, there are many previous threads on the subject.
The bottom line is, as has already been stated, if you want to have an LED light working after such an event, build a faraday cage.

Some of the light manufacturers believe their lights to be EMP safe, as there are different wavelengths of EMP to be concerned with, and flashlights are small enough to not be affected by what many consider would be the predominate of these. HDS and Peak are two manufacturers I remember mentioning this.

A quick search for EMP threads will give you a wealth of info.

RedLed, I think even a crayon written credential would suffice in the given situation....

 

[idleprocess]

1. According to the research I and many others have done, only pre-1972 cars would work after an EMP.

2. You must be a government DISinformation Specialist because ALL modern electronics will NOT survive, repeat: will NOT survive any EMP.

Pre-1972 cars are generally carbeurated affairs without ECU's nor significant reliance on other solid-state electronics, so small surprise "the literature" says they'll survive a massive EMP unphased. But the modern ECU is arguably the most hardened piece of solid-state electronics that's mass-produced and is surprisingly resistant to EMP effects because it has to be thanks to the incredibly harsh electrical environment of the average automobile. Mix that hardening in with the relatively short wire runs in an automobile relative to grid-connected electronics and it's predicted that a large percentage will survive unaffected or might have to simulate sensor readings using use last-known ranges should some get zapped. Add in the fact that cars are still largely made of steel which serves to isolate the effects of EMP from sensitive electronics and odds are your average auto will be fine.

As for the alarmist all electronics will be toast claim, I'd like to re-iterate that small battery-powered electronics have minuscule surface areas and even lesser lengths of wire to conduct the EMP into them. Put them in faraday cages if you want, but odds are they're going to come out unscathed regardless. If you have spare mains-powered electronics left powered down and disconnected, odds are they'll fire up after an EMP ... provided you have a substitute source of mains power to begin with.

The last section of this report addresses some of the myths surrounding EMP's in relation to the initial intense E1 event in a nuclear EMP.

 

[pageyjim]

Would a protected battery be useless from the EMP because of the protection circuit? And if that is the case would an unprotected battery survive?
I have read differing accounts stating that a Faraday cage needs to be grounded to protect its contents.

Also if the grid goes down you wouldn't have to be near the "blast" or EMP to be affected.

 

[Kestrel]

Six posts have been deleted for language and/or personal attacks. Please post respectfully.

This may not suprise the senior members here, but this topic has already been beat to death in previous threads.

 

[cland72]

I have spare P60s and P90s in a box.

/thread

 

[TEEJ]

As mentioned the LENGTH of the device's electronics, and their orientation to the EMP event, etc, mean that small electronics that are not plugged in will have a HIGH probability of survival. The cord to the items is typically the vulnerability.

There are EMP "events" that do not include a nuclear bomb, say a neutron bomb, or, massive solar flares, cosmic radiation bursts, etc.

A big problem if there were an ATTACK typically, would be the machines used to MAKE generators, etc, to repair the infra structure, would also be taken out.

So, think wind and solar, and so forth - to recharge your cells.

 

[Kestrel]

I have spare P60s and P90s in a box.

I have four unused P30's - perfect for running my three cell SureFires with 2xAA well into the next stone age. :nana:

 

[RepProdigious]

I think cars made in eastern bloc countries after 1972 would also work without problem

Im pretty sure there's plenty more modern cars (especially diesels) that will still run fine, especially if they were running at the time of the EMP and have not been turned off yet (just keep em topped up and dont turn em off :twothumbs )