You know, lumens are not everything. I have lately been looking at getting some lower powered lights with solid quality and UI's. The Fenix LD40 fits that bill and I suspect that the LD41 will too. the PA40 has a terrible UI in my opinion. Forward clicky is an awful to switch modes. But to each there own on that one. And as someone who uses their lights, the only time I need that much light is when I am on duty and it's my safety at stake, or if it's an emergency situation at the house. I.E. dogs being attacked by coyotes, someone breaking in, fire, etc... But to be honest, how many times does something occur where that amount of light is detrimental. I don't know... it's late and I'm tired so don't mind my ranting. I just feel that the LD41 is getting some undeserved hate here. I know it's fugly, but, to me so is a Glock. But a Glocks pure, brilliant function makes it the second most beautiful handgun in the world to me. Followed only by my Colt 1911. But, you know, to each there own.