Surefire’s 2009 New Lights Discussion - Part II

[Outdoors Fanatic]

Which one of these come in black? Just the Invictus?

Nope. The new A2Z Combat Light is all in Black Hard-Anodized and the Z2 is Black Type-II.

 

[leon2245]

Thanks O.F.

 

[electromage]

Regarding the A2L: Not to say "I told you so", but...I told you so.

And now, I must have one! I just hope it's still cheaper than the Kroma, but I have a feeling it will be.

 

[PinarelloOnly]

I'd like to see yellow/green offered in the A2L ................

Me too!!!!

The yellow /green led's are the best for me in terms of reading nautical maps.

I wouldn't buy a new one anyways based on the clips on the newer lights.

I may be alone on this but I actually hate those clips shown on the newer lights.

 

[Monocrom]

I think we'd need a new tailcap, too, for the 2 levels?

I'm wondering if the old tailcaps will work with the LED heads. Probably cause the heads to be one level, max brightness. I'd be happy with that. Still, probably going to be awhile before we discover if the new tailcaps are absolutely necessary with the new heads, or if the old ones will work with a loss of the low-level output.

When looking at the prices for single LED heads I guess buying a new light instead of the two items will be cheaper.
bernie

That's the other thing.... It's Surefire after all. Even if the old tailcaps will work on the new heads, the money saved in buying a head would likely only be a few bucks over buying the entire light.

 

[Size15's]

I hear ya. Its just that they seemed to have 'missed' one. Though I understand that past sales numbers probably dictated the color lineup.

Perhaps if they had touted the Y/G combo benefits some more? Maybe it'll be added next season.

I think it's more likely that a Y/G version will be offered and it'll be through a military/law enforcement catalog or channel rather than where it's benefits are highlighted.
It's perhaps bearing in mind that the catalogs are by no means tablets of stone as have been demonstrated year after year after year after year. If SureFire do release a product based on the A2L concept in the future it may well be quite different to the proto-type concept shown at SS2009.

Al

 

[SilentK]

Re: Surefire's 2009 New Lights Discussion - Part II

I may be alone on this but I actually hate those clips shown on the newer lights.

Dont worry, you are not alone. i also hate the way the a2L clip looks. they should make add-on clips so if one style is not for you, you can spend a few bucks and get another style.

 

[L.E.D.]

Wow, the SureFire M3TL is SWEET!!! I wonder if the beam will exhibit the cross / philips screw looking beam, or if the optics will make the beam perfect...

 

[ozner1991]

just taggin along

any new news on the natural e1b yet?:candle:

 

[PinarelloOnly]

Dont worry, you are not alone. i also hate the way the a2L clip looks. they should make add-on clips so if one style is not for you, you can spend a few bucks and get another style.

The one thing for me is, the "fold" or the area where the clip makes the
"U" bend near the tail.

With those newer clips, it is now one of the biggest (diameter wise in
hand) of the light. You are definitely going to feel that clip the whole time
its in your hand.

It just won't be a nice streamline feel as say on the incan Aviator where
the nice long clip gradually slopes toward the tail of the light.

I can see how that style clip works for some on E1B but not everyone is Kojak.

 

[Bullzeyebill]

See updated Surefire website. Noticed one change right off. L4-improved performance. 120 lumens. :naughty:

Bill

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

See updated Surefire website. Noticed one change right off. L4-improved performance. 120 lumens. :naughty:

Bill

That's not exactly breaking news... Check it out: https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/218892

 

[Size15's]

See updated Surefire website. Noticed one change right off. L4-improved performance. 120 lumens. :naughty:

Bill

We have a thread on the updated L4 already. We're waiting for CPF members to get hold of them to show us details and do some runtime plots

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

We have a thread on the updated L4 already. We're waiting for CPF members to get hold of them to show us details and do some runtime plots

Yep. Here is the thread for future reference:

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/218892

 

[Bullzeyebill]

Yep. Here is the thread for future reference:

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/218892

Thanks guys, I thought that was new posted info on their site.

Bill

 

[KeyGrip]

Me too!!!!...
I wouldn't buy a new one anyways based on the clips on the newer lights...

How about this; if you get a new A2 and those new clips are interchangeable with the regular E series clips, I'll trade you my E2L's regular long clip for the new two-way long clip.

 

[Sgt. LED]

I want to stick the M3TL on my M6 body running 2 18650's.
I will then be at peace.

If it only gives me 1 level I am perfectly fine with that. Actually I bet one of our custom parts makers will use this as the initiative to finally make an M6 clicky.

 

[LED61]

I´m thinking the low beam regardless of color will be much improved in these new units.

 

[knldgskr]

The LX2 has substituted a TIR for the micro-texture reflector. Is this going to do away with the L2's floodlight characteristic?

 

[txgp17]

I notice the X400 is on there site now. I don't recall seeing that in the past.
http://www.surefire.com/X400-LED-WeaponLight