HDS Systems EDC # 20

[FroggyTaco]

So, I was playing with my hcri 200lm Clicky last night, and had forgotten that a six click from off command resulted in true tactical momentary on max level. Is there any way to exit that other than removing the battery for 60 seconds?

Nope & it was programmed that way presuming you went into "tactical" intentionally & thus requiring a very deliberate action to get out of that mode.

 

[scout24]

Thank you. :thumbsup:

 

[recDNA]

Does the XP-G3 have high enough availability to replace the XP-G2 in the 250?

 

[ven]

I am not a fan of the xp-g3 at all, ones i have had are no more! I think the xp-g2 are a "better" option still out of them both. Of course others may have a different view, yes brighter and presumably more efficient, but the off tints are worse from my experience.

 

[Tachead]

Does the XP-G3 have high enough availability to replace the XP-G2 in the 250?

The Xp-G3 has has terrible tint shift and a strongly off coloured corona just like all the new fully phosphor coated Cree's(XHP50.2, XHP70.2, XP-L2, XP-G3). So, it is kind of a downgrade imo other then it's slightly better efficiency and higher CRI(depending on bin).`

 

[recDNA]

The Xp-G3 has has terrible tint shift and a strongly off coloured corona just like all the new fully phosphor coated Cree's(XHP50.2, XHP70.2, XP-L2, XP-G3). So, it is kind of a downgrade imo other then it's slightly better efficiency and higher CRI(depending on bin).`

For tint i bought the Nichia. For more throw a 250 with g3 might be a 280

 

[Tachead]

For tint i bought the Nichia. For more throw a 250 with g3 might be a 280

The extra throw produced by that extra 30 lumens is going to be very minimal. And with that, you are going to get a strong yellowish green corona(2-3 times as bad as the XHP35 in your SC64). Trust me, it is not desirable.

If you want extra throw, great tint, and tint consistency across the beam, I would buy a 325(XP-L) HDS and have it modded with an XP-L HI.

 

[recDNA]

The extra throw produced by that extra 30 lumens is going to be very minimal. And with that, you are going to get a strong yellowish green corona(2-3 times as bad as the XHP35 in your SC64). Trust me, it is not desirable.

If you want extra throw, great tint, and tint consistency across the beam, I would buy a 325(XP-L) HDS and have it modded with an XP-L HI.

I prefer smaller hotspot. In a thrower I don't care at all about tint. The 250 is the closest thing to a thrower. If there were an R2 with 250 lumens it would be nice.

 

[Tachead]

I prefer smaller hotspot. In a thrower I don't care at all about tint. The 250 is the closest thing to a thrower. If there were an R2 with 250 lumens it would be nice.

The XP-L HI will produce a smaller more intense hotspot then the XP-L. Keep in mind, that achieving a "thrower" out of a light this small with this low of output is going to be hard if not impossible. An HI emitter(specifically engineered for throw) or a tiny emitter is going to give you the best results however.

 

[recDNA]

The XP-L HI will produce a smaller more intense hotspot then the XP-L. Keep in mind, that achieving a "thrower" out of a light this small with this low of output is going to be hard if not impossible. An HI emitter(specifically engineered for throw) or a tiny emitter is going to give you the best results however.

Good idea

 

[Tachead]

As I said the Hi has had some bad reports.

The XP-L HI emitter has had some bad reports? Where? I don't know if I have ever heard anyone complain about the HI emitters unless they don't like throw. Both the XP-L HI and XHP35 HI are two of the best, if not the best, emitters that Cree offers in most peoples opinions. They offer the least tint variation across the beam and the most consistent overall tints from Cree. They also offer great throw and very nice beam profiles. They really are the cream of the crop when it comes to Cree imo. Really, the only downsides they have is a slightly lower lumen output(-10-15%) at the same drive level when compared to their HD variants. But, they beat them in throw by a significant amount so, it is a trade off.

 

[recDNA]

The XP-L HI emitter has had some bad reports? Where? I don't know if I have ever heard anyone complain about the HI emitters unless they don't like throw. Both the XP-L HI and XHP35 HI are two of the best, if not the best, emitters that Cree offers in most peoples opinions. They offer the least tint variation across the beam and the most consistent overall tints from Cree. They also offer great throw and very nice beam profiles. They really are the cream of the crop when it comes to Cree imo. Really, the only downsides they have is a slightly lower efficiency(-10-15%) when compared to their HD variants.

We've been talking in two threads. I confused what you meant with ZL thread. Yes an XPL HI in a 325 is a possible solution. Hogo says some new things coming. Maybe that will be one.

 

[recDNA]

My 3 o'clock has a nice beam. Just needs to be brighter.

 

[Tachead]

We've been talking in two threads. I confused what you meant with ZL thread. Yes an XPL HI in a 325 is a possible solution. Hogo says some new things coming. Maybe that will be one.

Oh right. I thought that may be the case.

Yeah, I am excited to see what is coming from HDS this year. Sounds like we should at least finally see the 18350 tube which is great.

 

[Tachead]

My 3 o'clock has a nice beam. Just needs to be brighter.

Yeah, while you can make due with 200 lumens for a lot of uses, it still isn't enough for many things(in my daily life anyway). I wish Henry would just make certain models that are designed for Lithium Ions so he could throw out his 1 amp rule on them. With HDS's thermal regulation and heavy body, there is no reason why he couldn't offer a much higher output model if it were specifically designed to run on Lithium Ions(16340/18350/18650).

Really, if an HDS and a Zebralight mated, it might produce the perfect flashlight offspring lol.

 

[recDNA]

Oh right. I thought that may be the case.

Yeah, I am excited to see what is coming from HDS this year. Sounds like we should at least finally see the 18350 tube which is great.

That doesn't interest me at all unless it means more output. Runtime is already forever

 

[recDNA]

Yeah, while you can make due with 200 lumens for a lot of uses, it still isn't enough for many things(in my daily life anyway). I wish Henry would just make certain models that are designed for Lithium Ions so he could throw out his 1 amp rule on them. With HDS's thermal regulation and heavy body, there is no reason why he couldn't offer a much higher output model if it were specifically designed to run on Lithium Ions(16340/18350/18650).

Really, if an HDS and a Zebralight mated, it might produce the perfect flashlight offspring lol.

Probably the lifetime warranty gets in the way.

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

So, I was playing with my hcri 200lm Clicky last night, and had forgotten that a six click from off command resulted in true tactical momentary on max level. Is there any way to exit that other than removing the battery for 60 seconds?

If you don't want to wait 60 seconds, you can unscrew the head while keeping the light on (constantly pressing the button). Once the light goes out, just screw it back together.

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

Really, if an HDS and a Zebralight mated, it might produce the perfect flashlight offspring lol.

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

 

[Tachead]

That doesn't interest me at all unless it means more output. Runtime is already forever

Yeah but, runtime on a 16340 is not that good and the new 18350's offer more the 40% more capacity. But, yes more output would be good too no matter what.