2 x AA maglite thrower mod

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the thread title says it all. here are my ideas for this build so far:

-maglite 2c host
-tube to fit 2 x aa inside the body
-q5 or r2 dropin
-1 regular head, 1 ashperic head
-other parts are stock so far

i basically need this light to have 2 purposes:

1. regular thrower for when i just want to use it by itself
2. much longer range aspherical thrower for when i use it in tandem with my fenix tk40

questions:

-is it possible for this light to have a proper hotspot and spill just like the regular led throwers?

-can you suggest a suitable dropin for this build?

- any other suggestions are welcome :D

edit: forgot to mention. i want this light to be as cheap but as functional as possible.
 
I have seen one or two minimag to Maglite head adapters, but I think those were one off things. There might have been some before I found this site, those I don't know about.

If you use a reflector, you'll get hotspot and spill, like normal.

Why can't you use the 2C light by itself? It's not that big and you get more battery capacity then 2 AA batteries too.
 
HI headophile,

I actually just sold a light similar to what you mentioned. I used a 2c mag in combination with a heat sink similar to this with a Q5 WC mounted to it. Originally it ran on li-ion, but I listed it for sale on the MP and the buyer wanted to run it on alkalines so I added a driver like this so it could be run on 2 c or 2AA etc. I have also used a sleeve like what you are talking about for similar projects because I did not have any C nimh cells. I got a piece of pvc pipe with an inside diameter as close to aa size as possible and then jsut put some masking tape around the outside of the tube at each end till it fit snugly in the maglite.

One other thing is while I was removing the glow ring from around the emitter I accidentally tore off the dome of the led :eek:. It was kind of neat though. With no dome the light then fired a laser like beam the size of the head of the light, with almost no spill, on a dark night from my position ( in a kayak on the lake) to a dock probably 200 yards away. At that distance the beam was still only about 15 feet in diameter. Not something I would do to an led on purpose but it was still neat. Good luck with your build.
 
@Gunner12

that's good to know about the reflector and too bad about the adapter. now that i think about it, i actually would've preferred a minimag body for this light.

i'm specifically aiming for 2xaa in this build because it's important that i'll get to use aa alkies should i need to, just a personal preference. i'd normally use eneloops though.


@vestureofblood

great info, exactly what i was hoping for!

that driver looks great. i'd have even more battery options :twothumbs

the dome accident sounds amazing and dangerous at the same time :devil:

i'd probably just proceed with the aspherical head plan if and when i begin this project.


thanks guys!
 
one more question. (pretty stupid question about the reflector i now realize :D)

are there maglite reflectors specifically designed for extra throw and not necessarily heat?

i'm already aware of the aftermarket aluminum ones.

just want to know if there's something better than the stock smooth reflector that would focus the beam tighter and perhaps with less artifacts.
 
Just build a typical 2C Mag mod and use 2xAA cells inside of C shell adapters. For decent throw, the stock smooth Mag reflector works well with a Seoul P4 LED.

I built one using a standard 2C Maglite, Badboy Nexgen 1000 boost driver from The Sandwich Shoppe, Litemania P4 CMag heat sink, Seoul P4 U2SWOH-bin LED from Photonfanatic, 2xEneloops, and 2 Eneloop C shell adapters. The setup also can run well on 2xC alkalines. I've measured about 19,000 lux at 1 meter and about 1.2A current draw at the tail.

If you want to build a AA Mini Maglite mod, the mariposaoyako copper heat sink makes the mod very easy. Unfortunately, he is sold out of the heat sinks and has no plans for another run. I've built one of these, again using a Seoul P4 LED. Driver was a BBNG400 this time. I used a Fraen LP optic from The Shoppe, but the DX14598 18mm x 12mm reflector also works well. Tailcap switch was a Terralux TCS-1. But you can also retain the twisty switching by not using the heat sink's copper collar. When you screw down the bezel all the way, the copper heat sink is pushed downward, breaking the circuit and the light turns off. Unscrewing the bezel allows the spring pressure from the stock AA MM tailcap to push the heat sink upward, completing the circuit. If you go this route, I would roll a small o-ring over the heat sink threads so that the heat sink doesn't fall out of the MM tube when changing batteries.

You might be able to rig a work-alike Mini Mag heat sink using some copper or aluminum tubing, rod, and sheet from the hardware store. Get a 0.560" OD/0.510"ID tube (the OD is the critical measurement -- it has to be small enough to fit into the MM tube, but wide enough to fit the 14mm driver board). Thin walled tube is convenient (but not a show stopper) since the tall inductor on the 14mm BBNG driver from the Shoppe is fairly close to the edge of the driver board. If your ID is less than 0.510", you can just cut a clearance slot for the inductor. In fact, if you use an SOB driver, the inductor is right at the edge of the board and you will have to cut a clearance slot. The MAX4073 voltage sense amplifier IC pins are also fairly close to the board edge for both the BBNG and SOB drivers. Kapton tape can be used to insulate those from the metal heat sink. Cut an 0.560" diam disc of metal from the metal sheet and thermal glue it to an open end of the tube. Then cut the tube to a total height of about 0.242" (including the thickness of the metal disc that caps the end of the tube). Get some ~3/8" diam rod (has to fit through the top of the Mini Mag battery tube, which I measure at 0.410") and cut a piece 0.192" tall. Use more thermal glue to center and attach the rod to the tube at the capped end. Total height of the sink should be about 0.432"-0.433".

Drill and tap a small hole through the sheet metal cap and into the metal rod section. This will be the ground connection for the driver board. Also drill two holes through the sheet metal cap to run the LED+ and LED- wires that go from the driver to the LED that will be mounted on the top face of the metal rod section. The 3/8" (about 9.5mm) diam rod is wide enough to fully support a Seoul P4, which is 8mm in diam. The MM battery tube opening is 10.4mm diam, giving a clearance of about 0.45mm for the metal rod section. 26 gauge Teflon-jacketed wire is about 1mm diam. So, you will probably have to file two grooves about 0.5mm deep on each side of the metal rod section for the wires to clear the battery tube opening.

Edit: A key with this work-alike heat sink is that the sheet metal cap has to make good ground contact with the Mini Mag battery tube (at the top of the tube) and the driver's ground wire has to make good electrical contact to this metal cap.
 
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now why didn't i think of battery adapters? :confused:

thanks for the ideas!

i'll consider the p4 emitter.

can i ask why that driver though? it says it's for 1 cell lights. would this be fine?
 
Where does it say that the BBNG is for one cell only? Maybe one Li-ion cell. But certainly not one NiMH or alkaline. The TPS61030 boost IC used by the BBNG is rated from 1.8V to 5.5V input and the datasheet specifically says:

"The TPS6300x dc/dc converters are intended for systems powered by one-cell Li-Ion or Li-Polymer battery with a typical voltage between 2.3 V and 4.5 V. They can also be used in systems powered by a double or triple cell Alkaline, NiCd, or NiMH battery with a typical terminal voltage between 1.8 V and 5.5 V. Additionally, any other voltage source with a typical output voltage between 1.8 V and 5.5 V can power systems where the TPS6300x is
used."
 
oh i just clicked on the first link that came up on google which was this:

http://tncproducts.com/hp_zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=79

but you cleared that up quite well so i guess that's that :)

pretty detailed instructions on the minimag mod! i was looking to put a c/d reflector on this but i'll probably do that too in the future for a light i plan to give to someone.

if there was no problem sourcing the parts needed, i'd 100% go ahead with this. i'd most likely just go with what can be had at dx or kd should i decide to.

cpf is such a treasure trove of info :thanks:
 
I can't access TNC's web site. What's their price, vs ordering directly from the source, The Sandwich Shoppe? The Shoppe's price for a BBNG1000 is $13 plus shipping.
 

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