6D mag Hid mod?

[wesinator]

Alight, so i was looking around battery junction and i found these boss lithium d cell batteries...
http://www.batteryjunction.com/xl-205f.html
... and i was wondering if there was some mod to an 6D maglite that i could do to turn it into super powerful like 5000 llumen hid with these batteries. becuase the batteries are 3.6 volts each, and have 19Ah each. I guess i really am just asking what the most powerful bulb that will fit in a maglite is.

 

[Lumencraft (Matt)]

Hi wesinator,

As far as I know the largest hid ballast that will fit into a maglite is 14watt. From what I understand about the mod its closer to 500 lumen than 5k. I have a light I built in a 4D called m*g623 that runs on 4x 3.6v li-ion. It is not an HID it uses a halogen bulb (osram 64623) It is a 12 volt bulb but overpowered to 14.8 volts its rated at about 4400 lumens. I am no battery expert by any means but I don't think those cells would be good for this application, because I'm not sure they would handle a 10 amp draw. Even if they did that would get expensive @ 15$ per cell because those are non rechargeable so with 19Amp available and a 10Amp draw that's roughly 45$ per hour to run the light. If what you really want is a 5000 lumen monster you can certainly do it in a 6D mag, but maybe with different cells.

 

[socom1970]

I could be wrong, but I don't know if those will work for high-drain applications. They appear to be cells for long-term memory storage. Slow drain, VERY long, stable lifespan under minimal to moderate loads.

If anyone else knows different, I would be curious as well.

I have used similar 123-type cells used for aforementioned applications, and they were not impressive performance-wise at all.

 

[kongfuchicken]

I could be wrong, but I don't know if those will work for high-drain applications. They appear to be cells for long-term memory storage. Slow drain, VERY long, stable lifespan under minimal to moderate loads.

If anyone else knows different, I would be curious as well.

I have used similar 123-type cells used for aforementioned applications, and they were not impressive performance-wise at all.

You are correct; these cells are for very low drain applications only.
I think you're better off going with li-ion cells.

 

[Illum]

IIRC Lithium Thionyl Chloride chemistry goes with lithium primaries...meaning they are single use batteries, even IF they do work...your looking at a hilariously large marginal cost for a ridiculously small marginal benefit...especially considering HID lights that uses other types of cells

the ones you are referring to is designed for low current consumption applications, typically in the hundreds of milliamps, an HID mod would put you in the amps range, or thousands of milliamps...a very dangerous combination for this sort of cells in my opinion.

the Xeno XL-205F D s designed specifically for long-term (3 to 15 years) applications, featuring a few UA based currents and periodic pulses, typically in the 5-150 mA range.

 

[SafetyBob]

Go to the HID forum and also the Homemade forum and start looking at what we have been doing with HID lights with parts from Welch Allyn.

You won't need a 6D at all, 4D max and in reality a slightly longer than 3D would be perfect. Go look there and all you questions will be almost answered.

Actually, go as quick as you can at my "My M@g HID" thread which is about half way down the list on the Homemade and Moddified Lights forum. You will have part numbers, prices, phone numbers, and even machining measurements to complete the best M@g HID currently available.

Bob E.

 

[Gunner12]

Why is this in the LED section?

IIRC the batteries aren't meant for high drain applications so they mige give pretty bad runtimes.

The largest ballast that fits the Maglite is one of the 14watt ones. I'm not sure what the input range is but I remember them being run off 3 Li-ion batteries(I could be wrong).

It might be easier to make a high power Hotwire maglite. Check here.

 

[wesinator]

Thanks guys, your answers have been really helpful. I was just wanting to do something with my 6D mag because it seems like it would have the most potential for a super bright mod.

 

[DM51]

Moving this to Spotlights/HID.

 

[Lumencraft (Matt)]

Thanks guys, your answers have been really helpful. I was just wanting to do something with my 6D mag because it seems like it would have the most potential for a super bright mod.

There are still several (some very easy) mods that can be done with your 6D. An Hid may not give you what you are looking for, but 5000 lumens out of a light that size is still doable. If you are looking for a light that is easy to build, A ROP on a 6D host would give 1000+ b.lumens and with 6x 10k mah nimh D cells would give over 2 hours run time. If you are dead set on a blinding fire starter, with some safe chemistry Li-ion (Li-mn) 5x18650s and some work to the switch reflector etc. you could probly run a 65watt osram IRC like this for your 5000 lumens.