Actual Lumen Readings in 10.5in Sphere.

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Thanks! I appreciate the extra effort. Very surprising info. You may want to edit your P20 data. You posted P20C2 with 18650 but I think you meant 17670 right?

That is correct. Thank you.

 

[daimleramg]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Hey Big C,

Have you received the sample from moddoo yet? I have received mine and it is very bright. The only way I can test this is when I use the ceiling bounce technique with the triple XPG R5 and my Wolf-Eyes Storm R2, the room is brighter with the triple XPG R5. But very very floody even with my clear narrow optics, my Storm has a small pronounced hotspot and generous amounts of flood.

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Hey Big C,

Have you received the sample from moddoo yet? I have received mine and it is very bright. The only way I can test this is when I use the ceiling bounce technique with the triple XPG R5 and my Wolf-Eyes Storm R2, the room is brighter with the triple XPG R5. But very very floody even with my clear narrow optics, my Storm has a small pronounced hotspot and generous amounts of flood.

I have not received the Moddoo Tripple XP-G R5 yet:shrug:

I do have to test the:

• Anto P60 XP-G R5 drop-in
• Dereelight P60 MC-E with 2.5A driver
• Dereelight P60 MC-E with 2.1A driver
• Solarforce Masterpiece and a couple others.

 

[csshih]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

thank you for the new results!

the lummi wee SS is rated to 50 lumens

 

[psychbeat]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

NB D-36 SST50 in 26650fivemega!!

Im going to get one this week either way but
am curious if anyone is sending you one.
sorry if its been done already- didnt see it.
thanks!!

 

[MrGman]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

My new Anto XP-G R5 is very bright. My semi new Thrunite XP-G is dead. Tried to run it at the 9V it says its rated for with a dc supply at 9v even and flash the driver went out. Useless. The Anto was compared to it before it died and it was definitely much brighter. The XP-G has a very useful overall beam. Take readings with the 4.2 lith ion and just a quick read with the 6V battery pair big C. Too see if the brightness changes at all. I couldn't see any different on the power supply from 4.5V to 7.5V in a quick read but of course that's just an eyeball. You got the latest and greatest sphere O truth. :thumbsup:

 

[kramer5150]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Great work BC (& MrG too).

your hard work is very appreciated

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

I will test the Anto XP-G R5 with both IMR 18650 and 2 new CR123 Primareis:wave:



I just tested my Dereelight MC-E P60 drop-in. Originally it had a 2.4A driver, but I now has the shinningbeam 2.5A driverr; which have 3 modes. I used my 6P bored (18650) and the bezel has a UCL lens.

Here is what I got:
Surefire 6P w/UCL____________Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.5A______________ 1 IMR 18650________________________ 489.2________________1 sec
Surefire 6P w/UCL_____________Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.5A________________ 1 IMR 18650_________________________439.2_______________ _30 sec
Surefire 6P w/UCL_____________Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.5A________________ 1 IMR 18650_________________________435.4_______________ _1 min
Surefire 6P w/UCL_____________Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.5A________________ 1 IMR 18650_________________________410.0_______________ _2 min
Surefire 6P w/UCL_____________Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.5A________________ 1 IMR 18650_________________________398.5_______________ _3 min

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

I finally got a chance to test the Anto P60 drop-in. I used the same hosts, UCL lens, and IMR 18650. Interesting to note that with 2 primaries (top of the input voltage) the Anto P60 1.4A module performs poorly compared to just a single IMR 18650.

I can't account to why the lumens drop so much after 1 second. I am not recording peak intant lumens, that is actually the number that pops up at turn-on aka. 1 second reading.

With the Anto P60 XP-G R4 I would get 1.43A steady at the tail. With the new XP-G R5 I get a solid 1.401A at the tail.

Here it goes:
Name of light__________________LED Type ________________Batteries ________________Lumens __________ Time
Solarforce w/ UCL_________________ Anto P60 XP-G R5__________________ 1 IMR 18650______________________ 353.8_________________1 sec
Solarforce w/ UCL___________________Anto P60 XP-G R5__________________ 1 IMR 18650_______________________296.2_________________ 30 sec
Solarforce w/ UCL___________________Anto P60 XP-G R5__________________ 1 IMR 18650_______________________291.5_________________ 1 min
Solarforce w/ UCL___________________Anto P60 XP-G R5__________________ 1 IMR 18650_______________________284.6_________________ 2 min
Solarforce w/ UCL___________________Anto P60 XP-G R5__________________ 1 IMR 18650_______________________280.8_________________ 3 min
Solarforce w/ UCL_________________ Anto P60 XP-G R5__________________ 2 Primaries_______________________292.2_____________ ___ 1 sec
Solarforce w/ UCL___________________Anto P60 XP-G R5___________________2 Primaries________________________237.7____________ ____ 30 sec
Solarforce w/ UCL___________________Anto P60 XP-G R5___________________2 Primaries________________________240.0____________ ____ 1 min
Solarforce w/ UCL___________________Anto P60 XP-G R5___________________2 Primaries________________________250.0____________ ____ 2 min
Solarforce w/ UCL___________________Anto P60 XP-G R5___________________2 Primaries________________________249.2____________ ____ 3 min
Solarforce w/ UCL___________________Anto P60 XP-G R5___________________2 Primaries________________________256.2____________ ____ 4 min
Anto P60 w/L2 ________________________ XPG-R4 ___________________ 1 IMR 18650 w/ 1.43A ________________ 286.2 ________________ 1 sec
Anto P60 w/L2 _________________________ XPG-R4 ____________________1 IMR 18650 w/ 1.43A _________________ 286.9 ________________ 30 sec
Anto P60 w/L2 _________________________ XPG-R4 ____________________1 IMR 18650 w/ 1.43A _________________ 298.5 ________________ 1 min
Anto P60 w/L2 _________________________ XPG-R4 ____________________1 IMR 18650 w/ 1.43A _________________ 296.9 ________________ 1.5 min
Anto P60 w/L2 _________________________ XPG-R4 ____________________1 IMR 18650 w/ 1.43A _________________ 292.3 _________________2 min
Anto P60 w/L2 _________________________ XPG-R4 ___________________ 1 IMR 18650 w/ 1.43A _________________ 288.5 _________________3 min
Anto P60 w/L2 _________________________ XPG-R4 ___________________ 1 IMR 18650 w/ 1.43A _________________ 283.1 ________________ 4 min

 

[csshih]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

wow! thanks for all those readings :thumbsup:


the solarforce turbohead is the Pro-I, and it runs brighter on 2 rcrs :naughty:


RA clicky 140 -- got a 142 OTF reading.. LOL nice! psst - the liteflux lf2xt TI is a XP-G R5

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

wow! thanks for all those readings :thumbsup:


the solarforce turbohead is the Pro-I, and it runs brighter on 2 rcrs :naughty:


RA clicky 140 -- got a 142 OTF reading.. LOL nice! psst - the liteflux lf2xt TI is a XP-G R5

Thanks.

What is the brand of the Damascus light?

 

[Anto]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

I can't account to why the lumens drop so much after 1 second. I am not recording peak intant lumens, that is actually the number that pops up at turn-on aka. 1 second reading.

PM'ed you. I believe this problem might be isolated to your module due to a slight ground revision.

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

NB D-36 SST50 in 26650fivemega!!

Im going to get one this week either way but
am curious if anyone is sending you one.
sorry if its been done already- didnt see it.
thanks!!

Nope...Not yet.

The only one tested was the SST-50 with 2.5A driver from shinningbeam.com and it was absolutely awesome at 470 OTF and over 400 at 4 mintues in P60 6P type hosts with IMR 18650.

If you get it we can test it. The next time there is a Bay Area BBQ, I will take the IS Sphere and we can see how bright it is or you can ship it to me if you can't wait. Some DD D36 SST-50 inspite of the big IMR 26650 cell the current may be well below 4A which might help in the OTF department. My particular SST-50 in P60 DD format was pulling 5.8A which really hurt in the OTF that is why I sent it back for 2.5A driver. You may also experience switch meltdowns at those high current temperatures.



bigC

 

[psychbeat]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Id be happy to send it to yah after I get it
to satisfy my curiosity and maybe a few others out there?

 

[csshih]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Thanks.

What is the brand of the Damascus light?

it's the new NAITHAWK brand, see here:
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=213486

 

[kramer5150]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

@ Anto... wow that XPG-R4 looks like a winner.
I am running an R4 off a 4x7135 board, with rev-polarity diodes bypassed and am very happy with the result. Hopefully I can get it in the sphere of truth II soon.

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Update:

I have been reading about the DBS hosts being able to make more lumens vs. a 6P type hosts due to the added surface area ect....

Well I got a stock DBS MC-E; it comes with a 2.1A MC-E able to run up to 14v. I used a 6P vs. DBS hosts and with the same cells I got more OTF lumens initally and throught the 3 minutes runtime too:twothumbs

Surefire 6P w/ 18650ext.______Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.1A____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________ 463.1________________1 sec
Surefire 6P w/ 18650ext.________Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.1A_____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________ 416.2________________30 sec
Surefire 6P w/ 18650ext.________Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.1A_____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________ 393.8________________1 min
Surefire 6P w/ 18650ext.________Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.1A_____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________ 365.4________________2 min
Surefire 6P w/ 18650ext.________Dereelight P60MC-E w/2.1A_____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________ 348.5________________3 min
Dereelight DBS hosts_________Dereelight P60 MC-E w/2.1A____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650__________________ 470.8________________1 sec
Dereelight DBS hosts__________Dereelight P60 MC-E w/2.1A_____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________ 420.8________________30 sec
Dereelight DBS hosts__________Dereelight P60 MC-E w/2.1A_____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________ 414.6________________1 min
Dereelight DBS hosts__________Dereelight P60 MC-E w/2.1A_____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________ 406.9________________2 min
Dereelight DBS hosts__________Dereelight P60 MC-E w/2.1A_____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________ 402.3________________3 min

 

[flashfiend]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Now I really want to get my direct drive DBS sst50 tested.

 

[joshconsulting]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

MORE lumens with the DBS? I assumed there would be fewer with the deeper reflector but that there would be less of a lumen drop from temperature. Now I'm even more interested in 2.5/2.8/IMR DD/LiPo DD SST-50 GJ results with the DBS

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

MORE lumens with the DBS? I assumed there would be fewer with the deeper reflector but that there would be less of a lumen drop from temperature. Now I'm even more interested in 2.5/2.8/IMR DD/LiPo DD SST-50 GJ results with the DBS

Well,,

I did manage to test my Nailbender drop-in SST-50 with 2.5A driver. Anto didn't pot it after all, but this allowed me to use the pill in the DBS:thumbsup:

Name of light__________________LED Type ________________Batteries ________________Lumens __________ Time
Dereelight DBS hosts_______________Nailbender SST-50 w/2.5A______________1 IMR 18650_______________________499.2_________________ 1 sec
Dereelight DBS hosts_______________Nailbender SST-50 w/2.5A______________1 IMR 18650_______________________433.1_________________ 30 sec
Dereelight DBS hosts_______________Nailbender SST-50 w/2.5A______________1 IMR 18650_______________________423.8_________________ 1 min
Dereelight DBS hosts_______________Nailbender SST-50 w/2.5A______________1 IMR 18650_______________________416.9_________________ 2 min
Dereelight DBS hosts_______________Nailbender SST-50 w/2.5A______________1 IMR 18650_______________________413.8_________________ 3 min

Here is what it did before in MrGmans 6in IS Sphere in a 6P type hosts, but in both cases with the same IMR 18650. You should also note that both the L2 and the DBS have AR coated lens.
Nailbender SST50_P60_H_____470__turn-on____________1_IMR 18650__________Solarforce L2 with AR coated glass.
Nailbender SST50_P60_H_____450__20 sec,____________1_IMR 18650__________Solarforce L2 with AR coated glass.
Nailbender SST50_P60_H_____444__30 sec,____________1_IMR 18650__________Solarforce L2 with AR coated glass.
Nailbender SST50_P60_H_____430__60 sec,____________1_IMR 18650__________Solarforce L2 with AR coated glass.
Nailbender SST50_P60_H_____416__120 sec,___________1_IMR 18650__________Solarforce L2 with AR coated glass.
Nailbender SST50_P60_H_____407__180 sec,___________1_IMR 18650__________Solarforce L2 with AR coated glass.
Nailbender SST50_P60_H_____405__240 sec,___________1_IMR 18650__________Solarforce L2 with AR coated glass.