At 3 AM You Are Awaken By Sounds Outside Your Door... What Light Do You Want?

[Torky455]

A few years ago, I was awakened by a very unexpected knock on the door of my apt. at about 2am. I made my way to the door without turning on my 6Z/P61 (now an M60), and turned on the porch light. After looking out a window, I opened the door to see what the nice Officers wanted....of course, I set the 1911 down out of sight first :whistle:. Turns out, they were responding to a domestic, and went to the wrong door :oops:.

 

[SupremeEye]

I recently had some bad experience with some ...... no-US flashlights.

So, I would DEFINATELY go with a Surefire M6/MN21 backed up with a mounted Surefire X300, 617 or Streamlight TLR-2. With your life on the line, would you trust anything else other than Made in USA?

yep sure would with lights of the Fenix kind.

LD20, TK11 R2, E01.

 

[270winchester]

yep sure would with lights of the Fenix kind.

LD20, TK11 R2, E01.

I value my 2nd Amendment rights as an American. Therefore, I trust my life on American lights.

Feel free to move to where Fenix is made and enjoy your rights there.

 

[american lockpicker]

I value my 2nd Amendment rights as an American. Therefore, I trust my life on American lights.

Feel free to move to where Fenix is made and enjoy your rights there.

+1

 

[Zatoichi]

I value my 2nd Amendment rights as an American. Therefore, I trust my life on American lights.

Feel free to move to where Fenix is made and enjoy your rights there.

Are you suggesting that every member of this board who buy a Chinese light are communist sympathisers or something? Even to suggest it of every American who does so seems inappropriate here.

When it comes to protecting myself and my family, I tend to be objective about my purchases, rather than political and idealistic. The same goes for my hobbies to some extent. We can't all afford the luxury of being otherwise. I don't think anyone comes here to be dumped on for where their flashlights come from.

I respect your beliefs, but not the way you seem to be putting others here down for not sharing them equally. If I've read too much into your post I apologise. It's just the way it comes across, and it's not the first time I've seen people pushing American lights simply because they're American. I come here for flashlights not politics.

 

[270winchester]

On Topic:

I use a 6P with P7 drop in from Gene. That thing has a nice flood beam that lights everything up and I don't get blinded if I hit any light colored surface with it. And of course I will have my cell phone because the police will be there instantaneously if something goes wrongjust like they tell me on TV.

Are you suggesting that every member of this board who buy a Chinese light are communist sympathisers or something? Even to suggest it of every American who does so seems inappropriate here.

that's quite an assertion. Feel free to put words in my mouth, it is the Internet, after all.

I respect your beliefs, but not the way you seem to be putting others here down for not sharing them equally. If I've read too much into your post I apologise. It's just the way it comes across, and it's not the first time I've seen people pushing American lights simply because they're American. I come here for flashlights not politics.

I trust MY life on lights made in MY country. Excuse me if that offends you. Please allow me to be appreciative of products made in my country before they go the way of Doc Martens, Jaguars, and Rovers.

 

[Zatoichi]

I trust MY life on lights made in MY country. Excuse me if that offends you. Please allow me to be appreciative of products made in my country before they go the way of Doc Martens, Jaguars, and Rovers.

That doesn't offend me at all, and I did question what you said rather than put words in your mouth. It was mostly your 'move to China' comment that made me feel you were putting others down for buying Chinese and making it political. If I'd have responded with my political views all hell would break loose, and this isn't a political forum.

I'm always happy to read about Surefire's build quality, their wonderful optics and proven track record etc. What I don't want is to be told we shouldn't buy Chinese lights because of their working conditions or anything else of that nature.

 

[Chrontius]

At 3 AM You Are Awaken By Sounds Outside Your Door... What Light Do You Want?

I suppose "muzzle flash" is not a valid choice?

Id probably go with my M20 since its always on me or beside my bed ;)

You people... I just LOL'd incredibly hard.

 

[CARNAL1]

Surefire M2 with R2 Drop-in in my left hand. Smith & Wesson .44 Mag in my right hand.

Nuff said.

 

[Ny0ng1]

I somewhat feel more secure walking in a dark street with my 30mw green laser in my pocket compare with just my lights (none of them is 200lumens or more btw)
One shot on the eye is enough.... now for the remaining eye.... :D

 

[ttate90303]

At 3 AM You Are Awaken By Sounds Outside Your Door... What Light Do You Want?

I suppose "muzzle flash" is not a valid choice?

This my friend brought a big smile to my face. Thanks. :twothumbs

 

[brucec]

I value my 2nd Amendment rights as an American. Therefore, I trust my life on American lights.

You are certainly in your rights to use American lights, but I don't see how it applies to the 2nd Amendment, unless it's attached to a gun.

Feel free to move to where Fenix is made and enjoy your rights there.

OK, I must respectfully remind you that not everyone on this forum is from the US. Are you implying SupremeEye should move to China because he/she thinks Fenix's lights are reliable? For all we know, SupremeEye might actually be Chinese and living in Beijing! Even if SupremeEye were American, it seems a bit over the line.

Sorry, but I find it irritating that we American CPF'ers so often tell other CPF members from, for example, Australia or the UK, that they should buy American. That must be annoying as hell. Let's try not to give people the image that we are a country of zenophobic trigger-happy cowboys.

Regarding this thread, I find it somewhat disturbing that so many people answer their doors with guns in hand instead of common sense in mind.

 

[KiwiMark]

For moving around in the house without alerting the possible intruder I would use my Jetbeam Jet-IIIM on low, since it is only 2 Lumen it tends not to alert anyone that is not close to it. For opening the door holding a bright flashlight ready to shine it in a possible intruders eyes I would go for holding either my ROP Low or my ROP High. My ROP high does have the advantage of living in a Mag 6D which would make a pretty decent club.

 

[dalekcommander]

Without giving out too much detail, I did clobber a guy on the noggin with my Wolf Eyes M90 about a year ago.

It worked!

Wasn't even the 13v conversion, just the standard 2 cell model.

Didn't knock him dowm, but it put the hurt on him long enough to get a handle on him. :whistle:

 

[Superdave]

I would probably take my P7 Maglite :laughing:.

rayman

X2.. i have a ton of lights but that thing stays on my nightstand.

800+ lumens on high, 260 medium and ~85 low. That's more than enough to ruin someones night. :D

 

[seattlite]

I recently had some bad experience with some ...... no-US flashlights.

So, I would DEFINATELY go with a Surefire M6/MN21 backed up with a mounted Surefire X300, 617 or Streamlight TLR-2. With your life on the line, would you trust anything else other than Made in USA?

My intention with the above comments wasn't pro-American nor to bash anti-American lights, but rather to bring up the issue of reliability and design. Surefire and Streamlight have been around for a VERY long time and have extensive experience in designing combat, tactical and weapon light systems. Their lights have gone through extensive R&D and field testing, thus, I wouldn't hesitate to use one of their products for a scenario for which they were designed.

IMHO, if a non-US company made similar quality(R&D and field tested) lights, then I could see myself choosing that as my "go-to" light. But, currently, I don't see that many combat/weapon lights of the same quality as Surefire.

 

[Zatoichi]

Their lights have gone through extensive R&D and field testing, thus, I wouldn't hesitate to use one of their products for a scenario for which they were designed.

Perfectly reasonable. Surefire's track record is one of the things that made me want to try one. I now have 2, and only lack of funds has stopped it becoming 3 or 4. Non Americans love them too! :twothumbs

 

[KiwiMark]

With your life on the line, would you trust anything else other than Made in USA?

The answer would be a resounding yes, providing the product was good enough to trust my life with it.

Surefire and Streamlight have been around for a VERY long time and have extensive experience in designing combat, tactical and weapon light systems. Their lights have gone through extensive R&D and field testing, thus, I wouldn't hesitate to use one of their products for a scenario for which they were designed.

I don't see that many combat/weapon lights of the same quality as Surefire.

But this is a good point - rather than put down every other brand from every other country in the world, it is fair to make the point that companies like Surefire have very high standards and you feel comfortable putting your trust in their products. It is hard to argue with that!

Some of my favourite possessions are made in the USA and I appreciate the superior quality of them over all the cheap clones out there. e.g. My Leatherman Wave - almost a decade old and I could easily convince someone that it is a couple of weeks old, it is just made well and made to last.

But then I also own a Victorinox Cybertool which is also well made and about a decade old. The pen still writes even! So the Swiss know how to make a quality product too!

If I was buying a handgun would it be wrong to choose a Beretta over a Colt?

For flashlights I have no qualms about the quality of my Jetbeam, Olight or Fenix torches. For that matter is Surefire even completely made in the USA, including drivers/bulbs/emitters?

If you are going to trust your life with any product then sure, make sure it is a product you can trust - regardless of the country that the product was made in.

 

[ruger357]

Surefire 6p with Lighthound led drop-in in my left hand, SW1911 in my right.

 

[PetaBread]

LF3XT with the shortcut to Max Output and my Spyderco Tenacious.

Edit: or I'd just bust out the big boyz