Best/brightest light for keychain/backup EDC?
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Marduke
Flashaholic
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
And where would you be getting your information from? All their Cree lights have tested spot on with what's advertised.
And where would you be getting your information from? All their Cree lights have tested spot on with what's advertised.
2xTrinity
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
I personally would recommend one of the variants of the LF2 for keychain carry, program the low output to the least amount of light you'd expect to need, and the high output to the highest you can get within your preferred runtime constraint. Then don't use any of the other features ever again. You have a simple and easy two-stage light with exactly the two settings you want.
It's also fully regulated with low battery warning, and overdischarge proteciton on either NiMH or LiIon.
Check out the link in my sig for a detailed comparison between the L0D-CE, LF2 (SSC and XR-E variants), and LF2x with things like relative overall output, beam angles, current draws, and expected runtimes.
I personally would recommend one of the variants of the LF2 for keychain carry, program the low output to the least amount of light you'd expect to need, and the high output to the highest you can get within your preferred runtime constraint. Then don't use any of the other features ever again. You have a simple and easy two-stage light with exactly the two settings you want.
It's also fully regulated with low battery warning, and overdischarge proteciton on either NiMH or LiIon.
Check out the link in my sig for a detailed comparison between the L0D-CE, LF2 (SSC and XR-E variants), and LF2x with things like relative overall output, beam angles, current draws, and expected runtimes.
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Gunner12
Flashaholic
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
I'd go for either the Fenix L0D-CE Q4 or the Liteflux LF2 X. Fenix seems to slightly overrate their lumen rating but the L0D-CE Q4 is at least 60 lumen.
I'd go for either the Fenix L0D-CE Q4 or the Liteflux LF2 X. Fenix seems to slightly overrate their lumen rating but the L0D-CE Q4 is at least 60 lumen.
bessiebenny
Enlightened
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
No one has reviewed this yet.
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=178248
But, you may also consider this KD Buckle V4 AAA flashlight with a Cree Q5.
They tout 110 LED lumens coz Q5 is driven at a current regulated 350mA.
(So this isn't really over-rated. Beamshot also looks VERY nice for SMO)
Jerry is heaps proud of this new model so I think it might be a winner. =)
No one has reviewed this yet.
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=178248
But, you may also consider this KD Buckle V4 AAA flashlight with a Cree Q5.
They tout 110 LED lumens coz Q5 is driven at a current regulated 350mA.
(So this isn't really over-rated. Beamshot also looks VERY nice for SMO)
Jerry is heaps proud of this new model so I think it might be a winner. =)
2xTrinity
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
If you only want high output, and don't plan to run 10440s, the latest buckle light looks like a great deal -- current regulated and the brightest available on NiMH.
At this point I don't need any more LEDs though, at least not until we start getting neutral and warm white emitters readily available.
If you only want high output, and don't plan to run 10440s, the latest buckle light looks like a great deal -- current regulated and the brightest available on NiMH.
At this point I don't need any more LEDs though, at least not until we start getting neutral and warm white emitters readily available.
maxa beam
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Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
That 110 lumen light looks pretty awesome in terms of output, but I can only imagine build quality/ruggedness for 20 bucks.
If only Arc made a 60 lumen light.
I'll probably end up going for the Arc, as their build quality, durability, and overall reputation is phenomenal.
And yes, Fenix over-rates their lights. They rate them for their bulb lumens, not taking into account reflector loss, lens loss, etc.
You only really get 75%(I've heard less) of the displayed lumens in a Fenix.
I wish every company would go the extra mile and get out the front measurement such as Surefire. Oh well.
That 110 lumen light looks pretty awesome in terms of output, but I can only imagine build quality/ruggedness for 20 bucks.
If only Arc made a 60 lumen light.
I'll probably end up going for the Arc, as their build quality, durability, and overall reputation is phenomenal.
And yes, Fenix over-rates their lights. They rate them for their bulb lumens, not taking into account reflector loss, lens loss, etc.
You only really get 75%(I've heard less) of the displayed lumens in a Fenix.
I wish every company would go the extra mile and get out the front measurement such as Surefire. Oh well.
Marduke
Flashaholic
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
Take another look at the testing on the various Fenix lights by chevrofreak. Most of them are within 5% of their rated lumens for TORCH lumens. In fact the LOD is under-rated in that respect.
Also, stating emitter lumens isn't overstating, it's just stating them a different way.
Take another look at the testing on the various Fenix lights by chevrofreak. Most of them are within 5% of their rated lumens for TORCH lumens. In fact the LOD is under-rated in that respect.
Also, stating emitter lumens isn't overstating, it's just stating them a different way.
Rossymeister
Enlightened
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
I Would Definitely Recommend The Fenix L0D Q4
The Ability To Change Levels/Runtime To Suit Your Needs Is Priceless
I Would Definitely Recommend The Fenix L0D Q4
The Ability To Change Levels/Runtime To Suit Your Needs Is Priceless
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
ahhh, its a been awhile since one of these "best AAA" threads...
i will end up having almost all more well known,available AAA lights soon.
i have
Jet-u
LOD-Q4
Arc-DS
Fenix E0
in transit are:
Lf2X
E01
KD "tough" aka. Buckle light V4
maybe i can get round to doing a comparison
and maxa beam, maybe YOU should spend a good 10,000 dollars for an intergrating sphere, then all the companies would want to send you a unit for testing, to ensure they dont, as you say, grotesquelly over rate, thier lumens
and inceidently, you really shouldnt judge the new KD light before anyone has really said anything about it. Do you by any chance know the whole back story behind the V4? if you dont, go read up..
and ARC's quality seems to have been slipping slightly in recent times..does anyone have a more recent, optimistic story to tell then the ones in the jeer forum? :candle:
Crenshaw
ahhh, its a been awhile since one of these "best AAA" threads...
i will end up having almost all more well known,available AAA lights soon.
i have
Jet-u
LOD-Q4
Arc-DS
Fenix E0
in transit are:
Lf2X
E01
KD "tough" aka. Buckle light V4
maybe i can get round to doing a comparison
and maxa beam, maybe YOU should spend a good 10,000 dollars for an intergrating sphere, then all the companies would want to send you a unit for testing, to ensure they dont, as you say, grotesquelly over rate, thier lumens
and inceidently, you really shouldnt judge the new KD light before anyone has really said anything about it. Do you by any chance know the whole back story behind the V4? if you dont, go read up..
and ARC's quality seems to have been slipping slightly in recent times..does anyone have a more recent, optimistic story to tell then the ones in the jeer forum? :candle:
Crenshaw
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Buffalohump
Enlightened
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
Peak LED Matterhorn 3 LED on a lithium cell is pretty darn bright...
Sorry I don't have a more scientific way of putting it but its a bright sucker.
Tough as well. Mine went through the washing machine in my pocket and came through still right as rain.
Peak LED Matterhorn 3 LED on a lithium cell is pretty darn bright...
Sorry I don't have a more scientific way of putting it but its a bright sucker.
Tough as well. Mine went through the washing machine in my pocket and came through still right as rain.
Kilovolt
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
I have three different Fenix L0D's, a Liteflux LF2 SSC and an LF2X.
My suggestion is to choose an LF2 SSC if you like a floody beam or an LF2X in case you prefer it throwy. Then I'll second the advice to program the two main levels to your liking and forget about all other functions, starting from SOS and strobe.
I have three different Fenix L0D's, a Liteflux LF2 SSC and an LF2X.
My suggestion is to choose an LF2 SSC if you like a floody beam or an LF2X in case you prefer it throwy. Then I'll second the advice to program the two main levels to your liking and forget about all other functions, starting from SOS and strobe.
bessiebenny
Enlightened
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
As Crenshaw said, I have very high expectation for the new KD V4 Buckle light.
It was based on the L0D and Jerry was extremely proud of his new creation. =)
As Crenshaw said, I have very high expectation for the new KD V4 Buckle light.
It was based on the L0D and Jerry was extremely proud of his new creation. =)
LED-holic
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
Most light situations call for low to moderate light. Any light that blasts brightness only is not very useful as a EDC. It will blind you more than help you.
A back up should be ultra reliable because it's a back up, and should be useful with decent life, but not the brightest because that is not its duty. Therefore the Fenix E01 would be the ideal back up, at its price point.
Most light situations call for low to moderate light. Any light that blasts brightness only is not very useful as a EDC. It will blind you more than help you.
A back up should be ultra reliable because it's a back up, and should be useful with decent life, but not the brightest because that is not its duty. Therefore the Fenix E01 would be the ideal back up, at its price point.
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Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
Ah, the old "favorite light" discussion...
That's why the Draco is a great choice if you can afford it: it has a much lower Low than any Fenix, particularly on Li batteries, and also has a settable level and a 110-lumen High.
Among my criteria for "best" keychain light, in no particular order:
- smooth beam with a moderate hotspot and a lot of spill,
- good color rendition,
- at least two settings, with a 2-4 lumen Low setting, and 100+ lumen High,
- jewelry-quality appearance, preferably not military style,
- Not HA alum. finish - it always scratches and looks like the devil in a year or two on a keychain,
- not interested in strobe, SOS, etc, if it gets in the way of the UI at all,
- slim and short - fatties need not apply, and I put all of the L0-XX in that category, as they are several mm longer than an ARC AAA, and a couple of mm fatter. I want no more than 13mm diameter to hold a 10mm AAA battery or 17mm for a AA.
- a "clean" tailcap for a split ring - no silly tail-stand extension.
So I bought a Draco with 10440/AAA-sized extension. It's the most nearly "perfect" match that I've found for my criteria.
Ah, the old "favorite light" discussion...
That's why the Draco is a great choice if you can afford it: it has a much lower Low than any Fenix, particularly on Li batteries, and also has a settable level and a 110-lumen High.
Among my criteria for "best" keychain light, in no particular order:
- smooth beam with a moderate hotspot and a lot of spill,
- good color rendition,
- at least two settings, with a 2-4 lumen Low setting, and 100+ lumen High,
- jewelry-quality appearance, preferably not military style,
- Not HA alum. finish - it always scratches and looks like the devil in a year or two on a keychain,
- not interested in strobe, SOS, etc, if it gets in the way of the UI at all,
- slim and short - fatties need not apply, and I put all of the L0-XX in that category, as they are several mm longer than an ARC AAA, and a couple of mm fatter. I want no more than 13mm diameter to hold a 10mm AAA battery or 17mm for a AA.
- a "clean" tailcap for a split ring - no silly tail-stand extension.
So I bought a Draco with 10440/AAA-sized extension. It's the most nearly "perfect" match that I've found for my criteria.
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Re: Best/brightest AAA/AA for keychain/backup EDC?
I dont see the low battery warning mentioned on their web site. one of the versions appears to be mounted at the rear cap to a small tripod. does require an accessory ? Do all of the LF2's have this feature ?
