E2DL: Combat Ring & Twistie? Small discussion.

[Search]

I just bought a Single Mode E2DL for to have but I wanted to see how well it performed in tactical situations.

Our classes are coming up soon and last time I used a 6PL and a PD30.

From my experiences I've learned a few things that have made me realize what a tactical light should be and should only be.

From everything I've seen and read about the E2DL I'm curious on how well it will perform, hence why I bought the single mode.

Whilst I would be the first to say a forward clickie would be a good feature on a tactical light meant for real life and not the internet, I do think a twistie is slightly better.

This leads me to my first question:

Will a twistie tail cap from my 6PL fit my E2DL and because it is single mode would it momentary and twist into constant at the full brightness of the flashlight as if it had the forward clickie. Because the head changes modes in the dual mode version, I figured this would work.

I'm a big fan of the Rogers - Surefire technique which leads to my second question:

Will a Surefire Combat Ring fit my E2DL? Hopefully it isn't too long though but I'm not sure yet.

Now, considering these two questions can be answered with yes (or even the first question alone), would the clickie from my E2DL fit my 6PL and make it work properly? I would have no tail cap for the 6PL until I ordered a new one. I don't plan on doing this because I like my money in the bank.



I am trying a few configurations to see which I like best:

Single Mode E2DL (Stock; Twistie; Combat Ring; Twistie + Combat Ring)

Fenik TK11 (I love how you can go into a low mode by twisting the bezel. This gives you the best of both worlds but the low mode can't interfere with.. your life.)

6PL (Stock; Combat Ring; Different Malkoff drop-ins; Combination)

Z2 LED Combat Light (Stock; Different Malkoff drop-ins)

 

[SureAddicted]

Will a twistie tail cap from my 6PL fit my E2DL...

If you have both lights, give it a shot.
The diameter of the P series tailcaps is bigger than E series tailcaps, it should be obvious just by looking at the two tailcaps.
You can use your E2DL as a twisty, by using the clicky to switch it on then twist the tailcap to switch it on/off.

 

[gsxrac]

Hey Search, sorry to say but I dont think so. The executive series is much smaller.

 

[carrot]

I have a lot of Surefires so I can play all sorts of Surefire lego. The answer is emphatically no, but you can find twisty E-series switches around occasionally. They are fairly rare by comparison since Surefire has phased out twisty E-series in the past few years but I am sure there were a lot sold.

As far as the Combat Ring I am not sure but I think they were designed for the C series only (6P-sized).

 

[zven]

To answer your first question, the tailcap from the 6P will not fit the E2DL, unfortunately. As you suspect, since the head of the E2DL takes care of all the brightness control and such, the 6P tailcap would operate with no change in brightness from your normal tailcap. However, it has a different diameter from the E2DL body, so it won't fit. But if it's a twisty you want, SF does make an E-series twisty tailcap. They no longer seem to sell it on their website (though you could try calling and see if they have any in stock you could buy), but you can definitely find them elsewhere (such as the CPF MarketPlace). I forget the part number on that tailcap, so someone else will have to chime in for that (or a search of the forums here should yield some results).

As to your second question, the combat rings also won't fit the E2DL, as the body diameter of the light is too small. You might be able to find something to wrap around the E2DL to fit between that and the combat ring to get it to fit, but it might be hard to get it to be totally secure.

In any case, you're sure to be pleased with the E2DL. From everything I've seen around here, it's about as bright as the Malkoff drop-ins you could get for your 6P. The hotspot is a good bit wider, which I like a lot. It does, however, have a good deal less sidespill than the other lights you list. The spill is still plenty bright and useful, but the SF optics concentrate more of the light into the hotspot than do other lights.

 

[Sean]

Your stock E2DL still works as a twisty if you leave it in the on position and twist it. If that's not good for you then ask around because there are E series twisty tailcaps out there (as carrot said).

 

[Search]

I don't like the twistie because you twist it to keep it on.

I like it because you can press as hard as you want and not have to worry about it going into constant and you're operating under low light.

Low light where you use momentary. It's just one more hassle to avoid.

I'm going to try it like it is and see how well it performs. If I would rather have a twistie I'll call Surefire then start surfing the marketplace.

I am upset the Combat Rings do not fit. I'll try to rig something up or contact Surefire about possibly putting some into production.

I'm going to test it out then move on to some other lights. I just need to buy a couple of Malkoffs to see which I prefer. Then I'll either put it in a Z2 LED or my 6PL.

Thanks for the quick responses.

 

[l2icel3all]

I just bought a Single Mode E2DL for to have but I wanted to see how well it performed in tactical situations.

Our classes are coming up soon and last time I used a 6PL and a PD30.

From my experiences I've learned a few things that have made me realize what a tactical light should be and should only be.

From everything I've seen and read about the E2DL I'm curious on how well it will perform, hence why I bought the single mode.

Whilst I would be the first to say a forward clickie would be a good feature on a tactical light meant for real life and not the internet, I do think a twistie is slightly better.

This leads me to my first question:

Will a twistie tail cap from my 6PL fit my E2DL and because it is single mode would it momentary and twist into constant at the full brightness of the flashlight as if it had the forward clickie. Because the head changes modes in the dual mode version, I figured this would work.

I'm a big fan of the Rogers - Surefire technique which leads to my second question:

Will a Surefire Combat Ring fit my E2DL? Hopefully it isn't too long though but I'm not sure yet.

Now, considering these two questions can be answered with yes (or even the first question alone), would the clickie from my E2DL fit my 6PL and make it work properly? I would have no tail cap for the 6PL until I ordered a new one. I don't plan on doing this because I like my money in the bank.



I am trying a few configurations to see which I like best:

Single Mode E2DL (Stock; Twistie; Combat Ring; Twistie + Combat Ring)

Fenik TK11 (I love how you can go into a low mode by twisting the bezel. This gives you the best of both worlds but the low mode can't interfere with.. your life.)

6PL (Stock; Combat Ring; Different Malkoff drop-ins; Combination)

Z2 LED Combat Light (Stock; Different Malkoff drop-ins)

This maybe a little off topic but, I was wondering where you purchased the single stage E2DL from? I've been looking for one for some time now.

 

[youreacrab]

I don't like the twistie because you twist it to keep it on.

I like it because you can press as hard as you want and not have to worry about it going into constant and you're operating under low light.

Low light where you use momentary. It's just one more hassle to avoid.

I'm going to try it like it is and see how well it performs. If I would rather have a twistie I'll call Surefire then start surfing the marketplace.

I am upset the Combat Rings do not fit. I'll try to rig something up or contact Surefire about possibly putting some into production.

I'm going to test it out then move on to some other lights. I just need to buy a couple of Malkoffs to see which I prefer. Then I'll either put it in a Z2 LED or my 6PL.

Thanks for the quick responses.

might want to try one of these:

http://www.lighthound.com/NovaTac-EDC-Tactical-O-Ring_p_1322.html

i think its the same one they used to carry for the leef body. those fit the e-series fine.

 

[Bruce B]

I just bought a Single Mode E2DL for to have but I wanted to see how well it performed in tactical situations.

Search,

Just curious.

Where did you purchase your single stage E2DL from? New or Used?

 

[Sean]

I am upset the Combat Rings do not fit. I'll try to rig something up or contact Surefire about possibly putting some into production.

Why don't you get a C2L, G2Z or a Z2L? I know these may not be what you want, but that's why Surefire makes different models. The E2DL isn't a combatlight. It's a civilian defensive light. The other lights I mentioned are LED combatlights with combat grip rings. It seems like there is a lot you don't like about the E2DL that is already incorperated in other lights. I'm just wondering what you don't like about the other Surefire lights that already have combat rings attached to them?

 

[Owen]

You might be interested in this collar, whose purpose was to attach an E series light to a swivel clip.
http://theledguy.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?cPath=48_55&products_id=207
That's what I would try, but you could also post a question here as to whether the ring from a Streamlight NF-2 fits the E body. I believe they are smaller than the C series SFs, and it could possibly fit. Maybe someone here would send you one, or you could get one from Streamlight.

edit:
Looking at dimensions from the above collar, and the specs on the Streamlight, it's .8" for the SF vs. .875" for the SL, but that could possibly be made up. The collar from the Sandwich Shoppe looks like a really simple solution, though, especially for $7.50 plus shipping.

 

[Search]

This maybe a little off topic but, I was wondering where you purchased the single stage E2DL from? I've been looking for one for some time now.

Search,

Just curious.

Where did you purchase your single stage E2DL from? New or Used?

I'm not going to say who sold it to me because I'm not sure if he/they would want me to.

I can say I bought it from a dealer.

I made a thread about how to possibly modify a dual stage to make it only a single stage and he pmed me and said he had one left over he didn't sell and would give it to me.

I was going go to the Market Place and put a thread up about wanting one but he surprised me.

Why don't you get a C2L, G2Z or a Z2L? I know these may not be what you want, but that's why Surefire makes different models. The E2DL isn't a combatlight. It's a civilian defensive light. The other lights I mentioned are LED combatlights with combat grip rings. It seems like there is a lot you don't like about the E2DL that is already incorperated in other lights. I'm just wondering what you don't like about the other Surefire lights that already have combat rings attached to them?

I'm getting a Z2L also. I'm going to put a combat ring on my 6PL too.

Then I'm going to buy a P7, MC-E, and M60 drop-in from Malkoff to try on each. I don't know if I would rather have P7 or MC-E so I'll buy both for sh*ts and giggles.

I just want to find something that suits me well so I'm going to try everything.

You might be interested in this collar, whose purpose was to attach an E series light to a swivel clip.
http://theledguy.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?cPath=48_55&products_id=207
That's what I would try, but you could also post a question here as to whether the ring from a Streamlight NF-2 fits the E body. I believe they are smaller than the C series SFs, and it could possibly fit. Maybe someone here would send you one, or you could get one from Streamlight.


edit:
Looking at dimensions from the above collar, and the specs on the Streamlight, it's .8" for the SF vs. .875" for the SL, but that could possibly be made up. The collar from the Sandwich Shoppe looks like a really simple solution, though, especially for $7.50 plus shipping.

Good find. I'll order one after this next training even depending on what I find.

I might decide the E2DL isn't going to be cut out for this job with or without a combat ring type device.

 

[Owen]

I just want to find something that suits me well so I'm going to try everything.

I can't tell you how much that philosophy has cost me(not just for flashlights!), but I sure do like the way you think

 

[greenLED]

Search, I rigged a combat ring + Tiger ring on my e2d.

Find 2 FAT o-rings that fit snugly over the body of the e2e and there's your combat ring. It's worked well for range work, etc.

As far as rigging a Tiger ring, I slipped a smaller, thinner o-ring under the two fat ones. I then attached a swivel to the smaller o-ring, and a larger split ring on the other side.

I can't take credit for the idea. A good buddy'o mine rigged it up for his defensive light and I copied his design.

If you need me to take some pics of my setup, PM me.

Say good bye to pocket carry, though, as the rubber kinda makes the light stick to your pocket. I'm looking for a good belt holster solution.