Fenix L1D Cree or Rebel?

dhwfd46

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Title says it all; which is better, the Cree or Rebel?

I need something for the wife. I was going to give her an E2E/KL1, but she would probably loose it. Besides, she wouldn't know what a CR123 was if it hit her between the eyes. :confused: I think an L1D would be perfect. It would fit on her key chain, making it less likely to be lost, and she could probably even handle putting the right battery in it.:clap:
 
I would suggest the LOD over the L1D for keychain carry

Comes in red, olive, or black. Make sure to look at the Q4/Q5 versions of anything you get.
 
Unless you're going to be in charge of battery swaps or supply her with l92 lithiums or convince her to deal with recharging nimh cells, I suggest getting her a lower powered light, e.g. an E0 if you like Fenix or maybe an Arc AAA if you want something that looks a little nicer and is a little brighter.
 
I agree with Paulr.

My Wife has had the E0 on her keychain forever and I don't think we have ever changed the battery since she's had it. :) It probably about time.
 
To answer your question... I have the Rebel 100 and love it. I had the cree with smooth reflector and didn't like the black doughnut it cast. Both are good lights but I prefer the R100 with OP Reflector.:twothumbs
 
I would suggest the LM31 for this purpose. Lower priced, simple to use and 1 AA. Also solves the LED problem because it uses neither the Rebel or the Cree :p

The Rebel and Cree version, either one should be fine.
 
She does Home Health visits, in some really remote areas. I'm talking 1 room wooden shanty, with an outhouse. Can you say "Deliverance ?" I want her to have a substantial light which is small enough, that she'll actually carry it. I'll keep her in batteries; I just think a AA light would be better for her. I'll probably feed it 2650 mAh NiMH Duracells.
 
She does Home Health visits, in some really remote areas. I'm talking 1 room wooden shanty, with an outhouse. Can you say "Deliverance ?" I want her to have a substantial light which is small enough, that she'll actually carry it. I'll keep her in batteries; I just think a AA light would be better for her. I'll probably feed it 2650 mAh NiMH Duracells.

In that case this sure looks like it could be awesome.
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showpost.php?p=2109730&postcount=1
 
I'm not sure if you have looked into the Photon series of lights. They are inexpensive very small and light weight and don't take up much room on a key chain and put out a nice bright light.

http://www.batteryjunction.com/phmiiimimaco.html This one comes in an assortment of beam colors and runs on the lithium watch batteries.


http://www.batteryjunction.com/phfrmipesafl.html This version has one of the newer Nichia DS LED's and is very bright and you can adjust the light intensity with a very simple interface from Full strength down to a very dim light.


http://www.batteryjunction.com/proton-rex.html This is Photon's newest light and it was just recently released. It is also a keychain light and has a very small form factor but slightly larger than the other two lights above. The benefit of this light is that it is rechargeable from any standard battery of 6 volts or less. There are quite a few threads on the forums about this light and the others.


I hope you find something that suits and fits your wifes needs.

'Light up the Darkness"
 
I second the L0D CE Q4 suggestion. It spits a pretty ridiculous amount of light. The "red" is pretty much a "salmon", though - be aware. It's a nice salmon, just more coppery than red.

It's also very easy to keep stocked with lithium AAAs, and is tiny tiny tiny. Great for any keychain, methinks.
 
She does Home Health visits, in some really remote areas. I'm talking 1 room wooden shanty, with an outhouse. Can you say "Deliverance ?" I want her to have a substantial light which is small enough, that she'll actually carry it. I'll keep her in batteries; I just think a AA light would be better for her. I'll probably feed it 2650 mAh NiMH Duracells.


ok, first off i have both of the lights you are asking about. second, in some cases my wife makes housecalls too when patients can't make it into her office, but in not quite as rural areas - rather suburban and urban areas (which are more dangerous and, on occasion require one or two armed escorts, usually off duty LEO's - she carries some prescription drugs she might prescribe or administer, including opioids, and so would be a prime target by local "slimely, belly crawling slugs").

now, that i know the specific use, here's my two shekels:

1. i really like a smooth beam-pattern free of artifacts. that said...

2. for my main use, i prefer SMOOTH reflector Q5 lights so that i can use the lowest possible o.p. (output) level and get the greatest Throw and burntime. but my application requires longer burntimes and greater throw at lower light o.p. levels. however,...

3. in your wife's case, i would guess that even if she's hiking >0.5miles through some forest, that she's NOT going to be interested in MAXIMUM burntimes as she can change cells (she really needs to know how to do this, IMO, and if she's NOT going to learn how to do this for herself, then, IMO, she really needs to carry a second light also) at the patient's home, or when she's back in the car. so,...

4. a textured reflector Q5 or a Rebel (if a warmer tint is preferred) would both work well for her application. on the higher output levels, a smooth reflector wouldn't be required for her to see far enough ahead. she'll also have less complaint about beam artifacts, more specifically "rings" in the smooth reflector Cree beam. therefore,...

5. i'd recommend that you get her a L1D-Q5 (with TEXTURED/OP reflector) or L1D-Rebel as her primary light and also a L0D-Q4 as a backup light. electronic failures are rare; drop failures might be rare too, but you don't want her stuck in total darkness half-way between a home and her vehicle - if that distance is too great. the L0D-Q4 is smaller, but now you need a different battery type. however, since it's purely a BACKUP light, a single Li primary cell would suffice. too big for a backup light? go with a Photon Freedom Microlight with a Nichia DS emitter - plenty bright for 15-30min on two FRESH CR2016 cells (after 30min its down to about 25% of initial MAX brightness, but 15-30min is long enough to find her way back to her vehicle if her primary light fails for some reason). lastly,...

6. i don't recommend normal NiMH cells for her application. the higher self-discharge makes them unwise unless you're RELIGIOUSLY charging them frequently and swapping out the cells (including a spare cell or two she ought to carry, IMO). if you want NiMH cells vs. Li primary cells, then go for some Eneloop LSD (low self-discharge) cells. Eneloops will require less maintenance.


these suggestions are pretty much what i would want to equip my wife with if she were performing home heath visits in an environment similar to your wife.

hope some of this info helps.
 
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i like the rebel most because of their even beam.
i think, your wife will use it for nearer distances, so the hotspot isn't very usefull. the rebels have more sidespill than the crees.
for me (as a women) it has to be a rebel (or SSC, which has a cooler tint).
i don't use any crees no longer. :thumbsdow
 
Thanks to all, and especially Half-wit for some excellent and greatly appreciated info.

We live in a real city, but things really change, when you head south, 2 counties. I'm about an hour SW of Pittsburgh, PA. I can't even find a decent flashlight dealer in Pittsburgh, so you all are my research base.

Thanks again,
Dave
 
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