How about this scenario.......
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DArklite
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Oddjob
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I'd feel safe with most any of my lights but if I had to pick one it would be my Ra Twisty. The reason is that Henry is a caver and who better to design and manufacture a light that will perform in that environment.
knightrider
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An M6 with MN21! 
Probably one of those Ra Twisty's everyone is so into. Saw the durability test thing they did, that light is tough! (I don't have one though.:mecry
Probably one of those Ra Twisty's everyone is so into. Saw the durability test thing they did, that light is tough! (I don't have one though.:mecry
Marduke
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Gotta be hands free. Stenlight S7.
BlueBeam22
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My sharper Image Night Search-Eye 10 million candlepower "Thor" spotlight. The reason why is because it has so many features; An LED flashlight attached to its swiveling arm which will runs for days on one charge, a red LED blinker on that same arm which I think would run for weeks continuously, as it provides just enough light to see by. It also has a lantern body which lights up and gives a soft ambiant light. And of course its main beam so I could possibly find my way out by lighting up the entire cave.
Good replies! I was thinking about a light that was not only tough and well built, but would have a very low setting (I do not think you would need too many lumens to light up a very dark area). You would want the light to stay on a long time. Of course, if you were an experienced caver, you would more than likely have spare batteries with you! I was thinking somewhere along the lines of my Novatac 120P.
Mike
Mike
I have done my share of caving and a headlamp is a MUST.
Unless you are just standing around you often need both hands when climbing, spanning walls etc.
I would want something like the Zebra light I guess..... don't own one but whatever it was would have to have a several lumen low (as low as possible to make batteries last as long as possible).
When your eyes get absolutely dark adjusted you would be surprised how the backlight in a digital watch lights things up.
Having one hand taken for holding a light is not an acceptable situation.
Think rock climbing with one hand.
Unless you are just standing around you often need both hands when climbing, spanning walls etc.
I would want something like the Zebra light I guess..... don't own one but whatever it was would have to have a several lumen low (as low as possible to make batteries last as long as possible).
When your eyes get absolutely dark adjusted you would be surprised how the backlight in a digital watch lights things up.
Having one hand taken for holding a light is not an acceptable situation.
Think rock climbing with one hand.
Sgt. LED
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Ra-twisty, I do want one, and my Zebralight H30 with custom SS raised button guard. That and a box of primary cells and I would be just fine for a few days!
Not that I would have just 2 on me now that CPF is part of my life.
Not that I would have just 2 on me now that CPF is part of my life.
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Princeton tec eos tactical & my mag 4d led.
Jarl
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Absolutely anything!!!
Handheld would be 6xCR123A (3 sets of 2 in parallel) light, DD with 4 independent pots in parallel to 2 cree's in parallel, fully waterproof, etc.
Like to see that one fail
Production light (is there anything similar to above as a production light?) would be a fenix E01 and anything by barbolight.
Handheld would be 6xCR123A (3 sets of 2 in parallel) light, DD with 4 independent pots in parallel to 2 cree's in parallel, fully waterproof, etc.
Like to see that one fail
Production light (is there anything similar to above as a production light?) would be a fenix E01 and anything by barbolight.
HoopleHead
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HDS Ra Twisty, with a Clicky and/or a Nautilus as backup, and a Pak Lite in reserve.
runtime is king!
runtime is king!
Raidfire Spear. Tough as nails. Will go over 600hrs on low. And although there are other lights that would go that long they couldn't throw as far while doing it. Even with only 5 lumens, or whatever it is, the Spear can throw those lumens far. And of course the high is there if you need to see to the bottom of something really deep.
Illum
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in total darkness you'd be surprised what you could do with a single 5mm LED driven at 20ma
keep in mind that brightness isn't everything, runtime could save your life. and it must be easily carried, and waterproof while being exposed to alkali environments
I'd probably carry a keychain worth of fenix E01s with Lithium L92s...not only for long runtime, but also eliminates battery changes. light up a E01, jam it somewhere so its facing up...then place another at a corner where vision may be blocked and and so on...if you walk long enough and found a E01 directly ahead of you, you'd know you've been walking in circles...and also, remember how huckleberry finn does in caves, bring lots of string!
Although I don't recommend littering caves with lights...if it means survival I'd find the idea worthwhile
keep in mind that brightness isn't everything, runtime could save your life. and it must be easily carried, and waterproof while being exposed to alkali environments
I'd probably carry a keychain worth of fenix E01s with Lithium L92s...not only for long runtime, but also eliminates battery changes. light up a E01, jam it somewhere so its facing up...then place another at a corner where vision may be blocked and and so on...if you walk long enough and found a E01 directly ahead of you, you'd know you've been walking in circles...and also, remember how huckleberry finn does in caves, bring lots of string!
Although I don't recommend littering caves with lights...if it means survival I'd find the idea worthwhile
Snow
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My Ra Twisty with Zebralight as a hands-free option.
As I would be 'trapped', which means without special preparation, I would just have to do with what I'm always carrying right on me:
NiteCore D10 (14500)
ZebraLight H30 (CR123)
Fenix P1D (CR123)
Fenix L0D (10440)
NiteCore NDI (14500)
2 x LiteFlux LF2X (10440)
Pak-Lite plus (9v Lithium)
VenusFire VF-L085 (18650)
4 spare 14500
6 spare 10440
Not to forget:
SonyEricsson K850i with 3 led light (plus 2 spare batteries and a universal 2400mAh USB recharge pack & cable)
If I would be trapped carrying my jacket, this would add some more:
JetBeam III Pro ST (18650)
Olight M20 (18650)
Fenix P2D (CR123)
Fenix L1D (Lithium AA)
4 spare CR123
4 spare 18650
4 spare 14500
4 spare Lithium AA
a universal 5400mAh USB recharge pack
a universal 2400mAh USB recharge pack
Well, I guess I would have some light for a few days at least
MiniLux
Jarl
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As I would be 'trapped', which means without special preparation, I would just have to do with what I'm always carrying right on me:
*kitchen sink*
Well, I guess I would have some light for a few days at least
MiniLux
Respect! How did I ever thing carrying 3 lights at once and a spare 18650 was extreme?
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The truth is if you are trapped and can't go anywhere in the cave light only makes you feel better. If "trapped" I would be looking for another way out or digging assuming there was a collapse.
You need BOTH hands in a cave. The walls are often smooth and wet. Sometimes you have to swim. Digging works far better with both hands free...swimming too. I have been 3 hours deep in caves....and have been in the caves far longer than 6 hours. The most important thing you have with you is your source of light (I carried many). I used to use a carbide lamp at times, something from another era. They make a lot of light for hours on a charge of carbide. I carried a second charge in a base with a cap on it. I often noticed that my companions turned their battery lights off when we were resting eating etc. because my carbide lamp would fill the room and you can't really turn it off once water is added to the carbide. Well, I guess you could but there would be no point.
Oh, and if you are a caver you would have a helmet on so the light would need to be something that could be mounted on it.
For those thinking they would rather have their light in the hand imagine crawling over a large slab of rock with little rocks all over it and a 2.5' ceiling.... again both hands are needed in a cave unless you are just sitting there and then you don't need the light unless you are writing a will.:candle:
I can remember doing the upper passage in a cave spanning the walls with my hands and feet ....and my feet, which I naturally had most of my weight on slipped off the tiny bumps on the walls which were about 3 feet apart(the walls). I caught myself with my hands and looked down. About 50' below me the crack I was spanning was a few inches wide in places and where there was a floor there were stalagmites looking up at meoo: The feeling was like amost having a head on colision with a truck on the highway.
You need BOTH hands in a cave. The walls are often smooth and wet. Sometimes you have to swim. Digging works far better with both hands free...swimming too. I have been 3 hours deep in caves....and have been in the caves far longer than 6 hours. The most important thing you have with you is your source of light (I carried many). I used to use a carbide lamp at times, something from another era. They make a lot of light for hours on a charge of carbide. I carried a second charge in a base with a cap on it. I often noticed that my companions turned their battery lights off when we were resting eating etc. because my carbide lamp would fill the room and you can't really turn it off once water is added to the carbide. Well, I guess you could but there would be no point.
Oh, and if you are a caver you would have a helmet on so the light would need to be something that could be mounted on it.
For those thinking they would rather have their light in the hand imagine crawling over a large slab of rock with little rocks all over it and a 2.5' ceiling.... again both hands are needed in a cave unless you are just sitting there and then you don't need the light unless you are writing a will.:candle:
I can remember doing the upper passage in a cave spanning the walls with my hands and feet ....and my feet, which I naturally had most of my weight on slipped off the tiny bumps on the walls which were about 3 feet apart(the walls). I caught myself with my hands and looked down. About 50' below me the crack I was spanning was a few inches wide in places and where there was a floor there were stalagmites looking up at me
oo: The feeling was like amost having a head on colision with a truck on the highway.
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