True, Mags aren't something I'd use while robbing a museum or working the other side and hopping fences after some guy with a bag full of some one else's jewelry. I consider Maglites to be the bare minimum for a good light. If my relatives had to be stuck in a stairwell during a blackout with a single light, I'd rather it be a Mini-Mag rather than some grocery store piece of junk. Sure, in a perfect world we'd all come out of the womb and be handed Surefires, but Mags are decent quality for a low price. Now that these are coming out, the Unenlightened will really understand that LEDs really work. Sure, it took Mag ten years to simply do what everyone else was doing, the power of their name alone will help us all with the competition they'll provide. I just saw them for the first time an hour ago. The Target near me is selling out all their Mags like rapid-fire because they've been priced down to make room for these. I got a few MMs for cheap for when Nite Ize makes those color LEDs. Will I get an MLED? Maybe, maybe not, but these things even existing got me a discount on some lights I was going to purchase anyway. Same with everyone who bought those other lights on sale. We saved money, and more good lights are out in the world. Do I have any bad feelings about Mag? Yes. Simply because they didn't LED a Solitaire. Besides that, we're all on the same team here, lighting up the same darkness.