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Perhaps she was checking out your butt!
Or just having a good laugh!
Awesome pics Don, I used to think I had a whale of a time when visiting Maui... you really put me in my place!
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Perhaps she was checking out your butt!
Or just having a good laugh!
Awesome pics Don, I used to think I had a whale of a time when visiting Maui... you really put me in my place!
tino_ale
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About the "what's going on in animal's head" thing, it may not be the subject here to open a debate, but I'll just throw one thought :
Not so long ago (actually, amazingly recently that was), it would have sounded even more "to out there, new age AND just plain goofy" to even *imply* that black people had thoughts, feelings, intelligence... you name it.
I think we're still living in a time of great obscurantism and ignorance on these areas of knowledge, and respect of life.
Not so long ago (actually, amazingly recently that was), it would have sounded even more "to out there, new age AND just plain goofy" to even *imply* that black people had thoughts, feelings, intelligence... you name it.
I think we're still living in a time of great obscurantism and ignorance on these areas of knowledge, and respect of life.
Tino,
I would guess your observation might be on thin ice but I believe supportable if one turned back the time as you suggest. I recently was sent a link to a YouTube video regarding some dolphin and I was amazed at how many similar links to videos and stories of whales and dolphin saving people there were. There was also a story of a small fishing village where for generations of both people and dolphin, the dolphin herd fish in to shore and then clear the area while the fishermen cast their nets. It appears to be a good and viable cooperation between dolphin and man where both parties benefit in fish. There are numerous examples and cases of these animals going out of their way and even into harms way to benefit man. Why?
Some of us might consider as a good sign of intelligence, the level of success one has had in securing pleasure and fun in a sustainable and rewarding lifestyle. This can be evaluated both in terms of material goods but sans them as well. Depending on the parameters, one could easily make a case that the dolphin (whales) are quite successful and spend more of their time in the pursuit of pleasure and sport than we do.
I would guess your observation might be on thin ice but I believe supportable if one turned back the time as you suggest. I recently was sent a link to a YouTube video regarding some dolphin and I was amazed at how many similar links to videos and stories of whales and dolphin saving people there were. There was also a story of a small fishing village where for generations of both people and dolphin, the dolphin herd fish in to shore and then clear the area while the fishermen cast their nets. It appears to be a good and viable cooperation between dolphin and man where both parties benefit in fish. There are numerous examples and cases of these animals going out of their way and even into harms way to benefit man. Why?
Some of us might consider as a good sign of intelligence, the level of success one has had in securing pleasure and fun in a sustainable and rewarding lifestyle. This can be evaluated both in terms of material goods but sans them as well. Depending on the parameters, one could easily make a case that the dolphin (whales) are quite successful and spend more of their time in the pursuit of pleasure and sport than we do.
After enjoying some really clean surf in great conditions and to myself today, I came in to the beach intent on drying off and heading home to work. This is the same spot where I got the shots of the mom and calf about 10 days ago and I have seen a mom and calf out there many days but whether its the same whales or not, :shrug: .
Anyway, I saw a whale on the surface to the south and not far out so I decided to grab the camera and mask on the outside chance that the whales would head north and perhaps swim by me. I paddled out and as luck would have it, I was not disappointed.
I got to watch a classic and leisurely swim by of the mom and calf and noticed the escort lagging behind and under me, just above the bottom.
Anyway, I saw a whale on the surface to the south and not far out so I decided to grab the camera and mask on the outside chance that the whales would head north and perhaps swim by me. I paddled out and as luck would have it, I was not disappointed.
I got to watch a classic and leisurely swim by of the mom and calf and noticed the escort lagging behind and under me, just above the bottom.
DimeRazorback
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Beautiful picture Don!
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Nedtheshred
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VERY NICE photo Don
Thank you for sharing
Ned
Thank you for sharing
Ned
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Is it just me or are there faint light rays that appear to be coming up from the bottom right? Could they simply be artifacts from the housing being partially out of the water?
They are light rays but coming from the sun above. It seems odd but you can see the rays converge underwater sometimes. They aren't always parallel and they don't diverge. I know the wide angle lens and domed port do distort some so perhaps the rays should appear parallel in the shot. I have looked down from above many times though and seen rays converge to a point somewhere below the surface.
socom1970
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Wow, Don!!! I know this is repeating what has been said many times, but your pictures of your underwater paradise are so beautiful!oo: I love looking through your Maui Time thread and seeing all the colorful and exquisite photos. I especially love your whales that you photograph. They are so graceful and beautiful to see.
Thanks so very much for sharing your pictures with us.:thanks:
oo: I love looking through your Maui Time thread and seeing all the colorful and exquisite photos. I especially love your whales that you photograph. They are so graceful and beautiful to see. Thanks so very much for sharing your pictures with us.:thanks:
The presence of the seahorses compelled me to start visiting the reef and beach where they resided. I noticed that there was a pretty funky right breaking on the reef outside of them and it was a wave that rarely had anyone out riding it. I started going out with my waveski to take advantage of these endless riderless waves that came in to shore. With all of the swells we have had this winter, I have been there on almost a daily basis and come to know the beach and reef there rather well. I wouldn't have had the opportunity to see the whales above if it were not for the waves drawing me to this spot.
There has been a cloud over this beach though and that relates to the fact that there is a permanent rip current here which is well posted and explained by some signs on the beach and there are even three buoys out in this sand channel marking it as the location of this rip current and the area to avoid. I think the seahorses picked their spot which is at the inside and beginning of this out going river of water as it likely brings them a constant stream of new water with food in it.
The rip is no big deal to anyone with decent swimming skills and an understanding of its nature. The more surf there is, the stronger this rip becomes. On the days where there are plenty of waves, the rip is functioning in full force and I use it as a quick aid in getting back outside to the break after riding a wave in.
Unfortunately, there are many tourists who have no concept of this rip feature and they often find themselves out from the beach and unable to swim directly back in, against this rip. To get out of its clutches, they need to either swim up or down the coast 10 - 20 yards and into the shallower water where the waves are breaking. The posted signs detail just this solution but nobody reads the signs!!
Over a dozen times now, I have had to come to the aid and rescue of someone who finds them self panicked and yelling for help. There are no lifeguards here and the locals are the first to respond if they are present. It is really difficult to pull or tow another person out of this rip and on my first rescue attempt where I swam out with fins and a borrowed boogie board, I found after getting about 3/4 of the way in that I had to yell for additional horsepower from the beach to help me pull the old man in. I was getting fatigued to the point that I was making very little progress and realized that the prudent thing was to call for help before it became a necessity.
If there is any surf breaking and if it is a nice sunny day with light wind it is almost a given that there will be a few people needing some assistance in getting back to shore. It is not a big deal provided someone is there and game to provide such assistance. After a few of my rescues, the fire rescue trucks showed up at the beach after being summoned by someone calling 911. I suspect they are summoned often only to find that the situation has already been successfully resolved. Last Monday was a nice day with some fun waves and I ended up towing two people in at different times while I was out riding the waves. The next day I was talking with a friend who is a retired fire chief and I mentioned that someone was going to drown there one of these days when the conditions were really bunk and no local present because of the bunk conditions.
Last Thursday I decided to drive down and check out the waves even though I expected them to be bad because of a strong wind and a large and confused swell coming in. As I drove down the access road to where I park, I saw that the parking area was full of police cars and fire-rescue vehicles. I immediately felt a tug in my gut and had a hunch about what was wrong.
There were two many vehicles for this to be a false call. There were a couple jet skis out in the surf and a couple fire rescue and coast guard boats out past the surf.
Within minutes of my arrival, a helicopter showed up as well.
From what I could gather, a young man (20) was last seen about 20 minutes prior to my arrival out past the third buoy. There was a husband and wife and presumably daughter and son on the beach talking with the officials and the daughter (teen) was sobbing uncontrollably. A local who I recognized had arrived about the time of the problem and he told me that the young girl and her younger brother had just made it out of the water and were screaming about this fellow who was out past the last buoy. The local told me he looked for the guy and he was prepared to paddle out on his board if need be but he couldn't see anyone. This local has himself also provided a few rescues here. I immediately felt really bummed because had I arrived 45 minutes earlier, I am confident I would have recognized the problem and padled out on my wave ski and simply put another "assist" on my belt. No big deal. A friend who runs a surf school here would also have taken care of the problem but the conditions were so crappy that he wasn't present. He and his assistants have probably uncountable rescues to their credit. It actually gets old and quite frustrating! Here are two large resorts on either side of this rip current and due to considerations based on liability, they make no attempt to warn guests beyond the signs posted (and ignored) on the beach.
I have an idea for an on site rescue rig that could be deployed from the beach and use horsepower from people standing on the beach to tow in a swimmer in need. I mentioned this idea to police, fire rescue and the county life guard that was present there that day and they all agreed that it was probably a good idea but the beach is state owned and the state's responsibility. These guys all show up when called but have no authority or responsibility in taking any proactive measures. I am no expert but from what I know and have experienced with the currents and tides here, their search area should have been expanded to a much greater area from the get go and it almost looked like the search was more of a show for the people at the incident area than an intelligent and comprehensive approach to the possible area in which the swimmer might have drifted (alive or drowned). The water was also murky enough that a tiger shark attack shouldn't be ruled out. But what do I know. :sigh:
I went back last Friday hoping to get some waves but the parking lot was closed and filled by fire rescue vehicles and yesterday was a repeat. I type this today, Sunday, prior to going back there so I don't know if the search is still in progress or not. Thursday night there was a coast guard helicopter with search lights flying up and down the coast past my bed time. The cost of this search could probably fund any number of viable solutions to safeguarding and educating folks enjoying this particular beach.
This is ending up a too long post and perhaps nothing more than a means for me to vent some serious frustration. That young man didn't need to disappear and I believe he did due to a known problem and threat to the safety of the uninformed. In every case of someone I have towed in, I asked them while I was aiding them if they had read this large posted sign warning of the rip current and the answer was always no. Granted, they may have been fibbing.
If any of you visit any beach resorts and are not strong or savvy swimmers, please consult the locals and find out if there are any danger areas or conditions you should be aware of!
My heart goes out to all those who have suffered in the loss of this young man and I can only hope that this problem will be addressed in the consideration of the safety of future unknowing swimmers.
For me personally, there is at least a bit of a silver lining to this cloud. There is a surf break a few hundred yards south of this spot and because of the parking area being closed, I opted to park in a new beach access lot down by this other break. I hadn't surfed it before but this prompted me to expand my horizons and I surfed it the last two days and found that it is a better spot when the wind is up like it has been.
There has been a cloud over this beach though and that relates to the fact that there is a permanent rip current here which is well posted and explained by some signs on the beach and there are even three buoys out in this sand channel marking it as the location of this rip current and the area to avoid. I think the seahorses picked their spot which is at the inside and beginning of this out going river of water as it likely brings them a constant stream of new water with food in it.
The rip is no big deal to anyone with decent swimming skills and an understanding of its nature. The more surf there is, the stronger this rip becomes. On the days where there are plenty of waves, the rip is functioning in full force and I use it as a quick aid in getting back outside to the break after riding a wave in.
Unfortunately, there are many tourists who have no concept of this rip feature and they often find themselves out from the beach and unable to swim directly back in, against this rip. To get out of its clutches, they need to either swim up or down the coast 10 - 20 yards and into the shallower water where the waves are breaking. The posted signs detail just this solution but nobody reads the signs!!
Over a dozen times now, I have had to come to the aid and rescue of someone who finds them self panicked and yelling for help. There are no lifeguards here and the locals are the first to respond if they are present. It is really difficult to pull or tow another person out of this rip and on my first rescue attempt where I swam out with fins and a borrowed boogie board, I found after getting about 3/4 of the way in that I had to yell for additional horsepower from the beach to help me pull the old man in. I was getting fatigued to the point that I was making very little progress and realized that the prudent thing was to call for help before it became a necessity.
If there is any surf breaking and if it is a nice sunny day with light wind it is almost a given that there will be a few people needing some assistance in getting back to shore. It is not a big deal provided someone is there and game to provide such assistance. After a few of my rescues, the fire rescue trucks showed up at the beach after being summoned by someone calling 911. I suspect they are summoned often only to find that the situation has already been successfully resolved. Last Monday was a nice day with some fun waves and I ended up towing two people in at different times while I was out riding the waves. The next day I was talking with a friend who is a retired fire chief and I mentioned that someone was going to drown there one of these days when the conditions were really bunk and no local present because of the bunk conditions.
Last Thursday I decided to drive down and check out the waves even though I expected them to be bad because of a strong wind and a large and confused swell coming in. As I drove down the access road to where I park, I saw that the parking area was full of police cars and fire-rescue vehicles. I immediately felt a tug in my gut and had a hunch about what was wrong.
There were two many vehicles for this to be a false call. There were a couple jet skis out in the surf and a couple fire rescue and coast guard boats out past the surf.
Within minutes of my arrival, a helicopter showed up as well.
From what I could gather, a young man (20) was last seen about 20 minutes prior to my arrival out past the third buoy. There was a husband and wife and presumably daughter and son on the beach talking with the officials and the daughter (teen) was sobbing uncontrollably. A local who I recognized had arrived about the time of the problem and he told me that the young girl and her younger brother had just made it out of the water and were screaming about this fellow who was out past the last buoy. The local told me he looked for the guy and he was prepared to paddle out on his board if need be but he couldn't see anyone. This local has himself also provided a few rescues here. I immediately felt really bummed because had I arrived 45 minutes earlier, I am confident I would have recognized the problem and padled out on my wave ski and simply put another "assist" on my belt. No big deal. A friend who runs a surf school here would also have taken care of the problem but the conditions were so crappy that he wasn't present. He and his assistants have probably uncountable rescues to their credit. It actually gets old and quite frustrating! Here are two large resorts on either side of this rip current and due to considerations based on liability, they make no attempt to warn guests beyond the signs posted (and ignored) on the beach.
I have an idea for an on site rescue rig that could be deployed from the beach and use horsepower from people standing on the beach to tow in a swimmer in need. I mentioned this idea to police, fire rescue and the county life guard that was present there that day and they all agreed that it was probably a good idea but the beach is state owned and the state's responsibility. These guys all show up when called but have no authority or responsibility in taking any proactive measures. I am no expert but from what I know and have experienced with the currents and tides here, their search area should have been expanded to a much greater area from the get go and it almost looked like the search was more of a show for the people at the incident area than an intelligent and comprehensive approach to the possible area in which the swimmer might have drifted (alive or drowned). The water was also murky enough that a tiger shark attack shouldn't be ruled out. But what do I know. :sigh:
I went back last Friday hoping to get some waves but the parking lot was closed and filled by fire rescue vehicles and yesterday was a repeat. I type this today, Sunday, prior to going back there so I don't know if the search is still in progress or not. Thursday night there was a coast guard helicopter with search lights flying up and down the coast past my bed time. The cost of this search could probably fund any number of viable solutions to safeguarding and educating folks enjoying this particular beach.
This is ending up a too long post and perhaps nothing more than a means for me to vent some serious frustration. That young man didn't need to disappear and I believe he did due to a known problem and threat to the safety of the uninformed. In every case of someone I have towed in, I asked them while I was aiding them if they had read this large posted sign warning of the rip current and the answer was always no. Granted, they may have been fibbing.
If any of you visit any beach resorts and are not strong or savvy swimmers, please consult the locals and find out if there are any danger areas or conditions you should be aware of!
My heart goes out to all those who have suffered in the loss of this young man and I can only hope that this problem will be addressed in the consideration of the safety of future unknowing swimmers.
For me personally, there is at least a bit of a silver lining to this cloud. There is a surf break a few hundred yards south of this spot and because of the parking area being closed, I opted to park in a new beach access lot down by this other break. I hadn't surfed it before but this prompted me to expand my horizons and I surfed it the last two days and found that it is a better spot when the wind is up like it has been.
BigHonu
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Don,
Thanks for your vigilance. Hopefully our government leaders can get together to put something better together in these types of circumstances. I have a couple of friends in water rescue on the Big Island, and I'm sure they can relate to your frustrations.
Thanks for your vigilance. Hopefully our government leaders can get together to put something better together in these types of circumstances. I have a couple of friends in water rescue on the Big Island, and I'm sure they can relate to your frustrations.
London Lad
Flashlight Enthusiast
A very sad story
They have called off the search now and I was able to park there today. The winds are light and the ocean smooth with whales surfacing all over out there. Plenty of sun and a really beautiful day with some small waves coming in in infrequent sets.
There is enough surf that the rip current was active. While surfing and paddling back out after a wave I spoke with a number of people who were near where the rip gets strongest and asked them if they were aware of it. None of them were. After one wave while paddling out, I saw two guys swimming in place where it is at its strongest so I paddled up and asked if they were OK. NO. They asked for some help and I towed them together out of the rip and into the surf zone. One of them had told me earlier in the day that he was fine and aware of the rip. while pulling them out of the rip, I talked with them and they had heard about a guy drowning here a couple days ago but knew nothing of the particulars. They were sure they were OK until they discovered they weren't. Neither of them understood they could easily have taken care of themselves by simply swimming perpendicular to the current until they had escaped it.
My wife was on the beach and saw the whole thing. My friend Mike the diver who is seen previously in this thread with the big octopus was on the beach and he swam out to see if I needed any help. By the time he had arrived I had the young men out of the strong part of the current and they proceeded in on their own. My wife told me that upon reaching the beach, one of the guys pulled a flower out of a memorial on the beach that had been placed for the lost swimmer and had it in his teeth while taking a shower there to rinse off. I guess someone walked up and gave him an ear full and walked the young men over to the sign that explains the rip current.
Maybe there should be a new sign posted that simply states:
"WARNING: Darwin trap! Proceed with your own intelligence and confidence; real or imagined"
Even a public address system secured on the beach could be a help.
Big Honu,
My wife found an updated article on the Coast Guard's site detailing the thousands of miles actually searched looking for the lost swimmer and explaining that the search was suspended. The resources and expenses involved in this can't be trivial! To be clear, I am not being critical of the search but I am dismayed and saddened that it was necessary in the first place.
Thanks for letting me ramble and rant guys.
There is enough surf that the rip current was active. While surfing and paddling back out after a wave I spoke with a number of people who were near where the rip gets strongest and asked them if they were aware of it. None of them were. After one wave while paddling out, I saw two guys swimming in place where it is at its strongest so I paddled up and asked if they were OK. NO. They asked for some help and I towed them together out of the rip and into the surf zone. One of them had told me earlier in the day that he was fine and aware of the rip. while pulling them out of the rip, I talked with them and they had heard about a guy drowning here a couple days ago but knew nothing of the particulars. They were sure they were OK until they discovered they weren't. Neither of them understood they could easily have taken care of themselves by simply swimming perpendicular to the current until they had escaped it.
My wife was on the beach and saw the whole thing. My friend Mike the diver who is seen previously in this thread with the big octopus was on the beach and he swam out to see if I needed any help. By the time he had arrived I had the young men out of the strong part of the current and they proceeded in on their own. My wife told me that upon reaching the beach, one of the guys pulled a flower out of a memorial on the beach that had been placed for the lost swimmer and had it in his teeth while taking a shower there to rinse off. I guess someone walked up and gave him an ear full and walked the young men over to the sign that explains the rip current.
Maybe there should be a new sign posted that simply states:
"WARNING: Darwin trap! Proceed with your own intelligence and confidence; real or imagined"
Even a public address system secured on the beach could be a help.
Big Honu,
My wife found an updated article on the Coast Guard's site detailing the thousands of miles actually searched looking for the lost swimmer and explaining that the search was suspended. The resources and expenses involved in this can't be trivial! To be clear, I am not being critical of the search but I am dismayed and saddened that it was necessary in the first place.
Thanks for letting me ramble and rant guys.
So sad - tragic in the face of such beauty. How great it could be if everyone who ever goes to a beach could read your posts!
Thanks for sharing....sorry for the loss
Thanks for sharing....sorry for the loss
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What a tragedy. I have been educated in riptides as I have done some extended coastal hiking in areas known for strong rips and rogue waves. It's tricky, because unless you know what's going on, swimming perpendicular to the coast instead of towards the coast is not a normal instinct. It's easy to see how someone who didn't know better could find themselves in the trap and wear themselves out before someone can get to them. :green:
It's insane to swim out on a beach without reading the signs and talking to rangers/lifeguards/locals. But a lot of people qualify. Darwinism indeed! :shrug:
Don, I can see feeling bummed you didn't make it out 45 minutes earlier. I'm sure I'd feel exactly the same if I were in your position. But you shouldn't feel any guilt about it. The thing about life is it's a terminal event!
I know you know all this, of course....
It's insane to swim out on a beach without reading the signs and talking to rangers/lifeguards/locals. But a lot of people qualify. Darwinism indeed! :shrug:
Don, I can see feeling bummed you didn't make it out 45 minutes earlier. I'm sure I'd feel exactly the same if I were in your position. But you shouldn't feel any guilt about it. The thing about life is it's a terminal event!
I know you know all this, of course....Well, to add some "data points" ... before becoming so fat I was a relatively good swimmer and used to swim in the sea. Every once in a while I got caught in such a current that wanted to drag me out in the ocean.
I remember th efirst time. I knew that such things existed, and I knew what to do. But at that moment, when it was pulling me out, boy did I go in "red alert and panic immediately" mode asap. I eventually regained proper control of my brain, but I can very much understand how good swimmers can suddenly behave like idiots and die in the face of panic.
bernie
I remember th efirst time. I knew that such things existed, and I knew what to do. But at that moment, when it was pulling me out, boy did I go in "red alert and panic immediately" mode asap. I eventually regained proper control of my brain, but I can very much understand how good swimmers can suddenly behave like idiots and die in the face of panic.
bernie
DM51
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It is sad to hear that a shadow of tragedy has been cast over such a beautiful place. I hope you will be able to influence others to implement proper life-saving measures for swimmers there.
Barefootone
Enlightened
Don,
Such sad news and my heart goes out to the young man's family. Sad but, true tragedy even comes to paradise. As others have said if people would just take the time to read signs and be cautious about their surroundings a tragedy like this may have been averted.
It's so true swimming perpendicular to the current will generally get you out of trouble. Rip currents take lives all over the world every year. We vacation in Ocean City, Maryland and last summer I witnessed no less than 6 rescues by the lifeguards due to rip currents. Despite the lifeguard's warnings and the all most constant blowing of warning whistles people still go out in the surf to far and end up having to be rescued. People need to realize that the ocean is a cruel mistress and has to be respected. The lifeguard at our beach conducted a brief safety class instructing us on how to identify a potential rip current from the shore line and to avoid such areas. We were instructed to swim perpendicular to the current which at this beach would generally be up or down along the beach.
I know first hand how scary a rip current can be :sick2:. A number of years ago I was pulled under by a rip current and as I was spun downward my head crashed into the bottom and luckily I didn't pass out, but I was dazed. I was actually so dazed that I can't say I actually was able enough to swim with the current as much as going with it and guiding myself into the shore line. All I know is I was glad to hit the beach breathing and God was looking out for me that day.
Don, your idea of a rescue rig that could be deployed from the beach is a good one. Maybe if forwarded to the proper state agency that is responsible for the beaches and parks, it would be given some study and consideration. Although bureaucracy is some what hard waters to navigate when trying to speak to the right official.
Don,
stay safe!
Such sad news and my heart goes out to the young man's family. Sad but, true tragedy even comes to paradise. As others have said if people would just take the time to read signs and be cautious about their surroundings a tragedy like this may have been averted.
It's so true swimming perpendicular to the current will generally get you out of trouble. Rip currents take lives all over the world every year. We vacation in Ocean City, Maryland and last summer I witnessed no less than 6 rescues by the lifeguards due to rip currents. Despite the lifeguard's warnings and the all most constant blowing of warning whistles people still go out in the surf to far and end up having to be rescued. People need to realize that the ocean is a cruel mistress and has to be respected. The lifeguard at our beach conducted a brief safety class instructing us on how to identify a potential rip current from the shore line and to avoid such areas. We were instructed to swim perpendicular to the current which at this beach would generally be up or down along the beach.
I know first hand how scary a rip current can be :sick2:. A number of years ago I was pulled under by a rip current and as I was spun downward my head crashed into the bottom and luckily I didn't pass out, but I was dazed. I was actually so dazed that I can't say I actually was able enough to swim with the current as much as going with it and guiding myself into the shore line. All I know is I was glad to hit the beach breathing and God was looking out for me that day.
Don, your idea of a rescue rig that could be deployed from the beach is a good one. Maybe if forwarded to the proper state agency that is responsible for the beaches and parks, it would be given some study and consideration. Although bureaucracy is some what hard waters to navigate when trying to speak to the right official.
Don,
stay safe!
BigHonu
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I know the Oahu lifeguards have some of their jet skis set up with a platform that they tow behind them. From shore, they drive up to the swimmer in distress, the swimmer flops onto the platform, and hangs on while the lifeguard drives back in. I hear they can deploy that system relatively quickly from the beach.
