Ok, so can we just assume there's a "smarter" PD on the way?

tempman

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I think the general consensus around here is that there needs to be a change to the programing on the Nitecore Smart-PD lights. I feel I can safely say that over 90% of Smart-PD owners would like the light to automaticly ramp up if it's on minimum, and ramp down if on maximum. If it is a smart system, then shouldn't it act like it?

If nitecore continues with it's great "customer input" buisness practices, then I feel as if we should be expecting this feature available pretty soon. Right?

The above is a must for me to buy another one. Here are two more things that I would consider a bonus...

1. (From off) a single click turns light onto user defined mode. double turns on to minium, click press maximum.
(from on) a single click turns light off, double for min, click press for max

2. LED should not emit light until the user is done with his clicks. Meaning, If I am in bed and wake up at 2am, I want to triple click to get to minimum mode. I don't want it to light up until that triple click sequence is over. Right after the first click (of the triple click) the led wants to turn on to the last used setting until I have finished the double click, and it is like "oh, you wanted minimum, here you go, sorry for the burst of light at 2am"

anyone with me here?
 
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You don't have to wait for a smarter PD light. Just get the LF3XT. It does everything with that the NiteCore EX10/D10 should have done. It ramps in the correct direction with the first press, and always retains the user defined mode even after shortcuts.
Although it doesn't have a piston drive, there are no problems with the split ring sticking, misfiring with ramping, and sore thumbs. On top of all this you have a smooth, artificact free beam, and an alternative full featured interface that rivals a more expensive Novatac. It even has a battery condition readout under load, more accurate that expensive battery testers.
And all of this costs about $60.:twothumbs

Oh, I forgot to mention. Ramp the user defined mode to minimum. It will always turn on in minimum if you don't ramp the user defined mode again. If you then need more light switch to either High or low and ramp to the level you need. These temporary settings in high and low modes are NOT retained, but the user defined mode is so it will come on in minimum. The light comes on with the first click in minimum.
 
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personally, I wouldn't want option 2. When I turn the light on, I want instant light, I don't want it waiting for more clicks. It's easy enough (at least for me, to each his own) to get into the habit of leaving it on minimum when I go to bed, or at least to turn it on into my hand at first, so I can be sure.
 

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I'm happy with the D10 how it is. I can see how improvements could be made to benefit some (maybe most?) people, but after a brief learning period, it works how I want it. So no complaints from me, although I'm all in favour of progress. :D
 

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I love my EX10 and my D10. The ramping issue is a minor annoyance and I'd like to see it fixed, but I would still buy another of either light in spite of it. I don't own a LiteFlux or JetBeam yet. Hmm...something more I can't afford but will probably buy.
 

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I feel I can safely say that over 90% of Smart-PD owners would like the light to automaticly ramp up if it's on minimum, and ramp down if on maximum. If it is a smart system, then shouldn't it act like it?
You say that when on minimum it's not ramping up? So it's ramping down from minimum... My D10 SE (Magma and Sunspot) both ramp in correct direction. Only thing I miss is memory. It remembers last setting when switched off/on but not when turned to minimum or maximum. That's how it works now:
min<-(2C)adjustable(C+PH)->max
LF3XT does it nicer:
min<-(2C)->adjustable<-(C++PH)->max
I can go back to adjustable mode which is great function!
 

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Yeah, I like the simplicity of the ex10/d10's programming. There are plenty of other multi-mode lights on the market for those that want that.
 

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...I feel as if we should be expecting this feature available pretty soon. Right?

They beat this one to death last time. :dedhorse:

The final answer, if I recall correctly, was the PIC is out of memory. No space left to "fix" the "bug". Just for the record, I have an EX10 and the bug drives me nuts. I'd buy a fixed version in an instant if it ever came out - but I'm not holding my breath.
 
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Sorry..it's not 90% who don't like the UI on their Nitecores. I love mine....and use the ramp feature so seldom it just doesn't matter. I like the quick jump from min to max
 

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They beat this one to death last time. :dedhorse:

The final answer, if I recall correctly, was the PIC is out of memory. No space left to "fix" the "bug". Just for the record, I have an EX10 and the bug drives me nuts. I'd buy a fixed version in an instant if it ever came out - but I'm not holding my breath.

Are you serious? If that's the case then the LF3XT should be the size of a 2AA Maglite to fit all those features...
 

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Sorry..it's not 90% who don't like the UI on their Nitecores. I love mine....and use the ramp feature so seldom it just doesn't matter. I like the quick jump from min to max

I liked mine just the way it was.
I ramped about a dozen times, didn't care for it. I was happy jumping from min to max alone.
 

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I like jumping too! Oh, no, wait, that's Catalina on "My Name Is Earl"!! But seriously, I hardly use ramping either. But instant access to min. and max. I use all the time.

Before I bought my EX10, when I would read something like "the low isn't low enough" about any light, I'd think "who the hell needs low, give me bright as possible, that's all I need. Well, after EDCing this light basically every day since I got it, my opinion has changed. Now I look for "low" low as as feature when considering a new light.
 

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I guess I should have left the last two tidbits out of the equation. I'll leave them up just for the heck of it. Either way, I still can't accept the fact that someone would not rather have the ramping sequence know which direction it should go in. If you had the choice of...

1. A Smart PD that used trial and error to get the brightness setting to ramp...

vs

2. A Smart PD that knew if it was already at the bottom or top of the ramping sequence to begin with, thus ramping the opposite way...

wouldn't you choose the 2nd option if it were available for the same price, size, form, basically the same everything? From a few responses here it seems like some prefer trial and error ramping. However, I do realize that a few responses were simply saying that they were happy with the way it currently is, which if they are happy with it, then it is fine with me. I just prefer ultimate simplicity, not simplicity with a catch.
 

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I guess I should have left the last two tidbits out of the equation. I'll leave them up just for the heck of it. Either way, I still can't accept the fact that someone would not rather have the ramping sequence know which direction it should go in. If you had the choice of...

1. A Smart PD that used trial and error to get the brightness setting to ramp...

vs

2. A Smart PD that knew if it was already at the bottom or top of the ramping sequence to begin with, thus ramping the opposite way...

wouldn't you choose the 2nd option if it were available for the same price, size, form, basically the same everything? From a few responses here it seems like some prefer trial and error ramping. However, I do realize that a few responses were simply saying that they were happy with the way it currently is, which if they are happy with it, then it is fine with me. I just prefer ultimate simplicity, not simplicity with a catch.
I can see your point if you are at max. or min., you'd want it to go the other way. But what if you set the brightness, had the light on for awhile (say 20 minutes or so, long enough to forget which way you ramped to get to its current brightness), which way should iy ramp next?

But yes, hindsight is 20/20, I'd choose option 2, but really (for me), it's a moot point, as I very rarely use ramping at all.
 

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There sure was a lot of opinion voiced for the ramping to be fixed when the PD's first came out and although we've all become accustomed to using these lights I still wish they would update the UI to at least ramp in the opposite direction once it has reached max.

Like many of other users of the D10/EX10, I tend to use the shortcuts most of the time, but if I had a 3rd user setting available, I would definitely use it more than the shortcut to high.
 
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