Safety Warning With Carley-1794 Bulb (Explosion) - New - Photos Taken of 27 Bulbs

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Update: Please go to my Post #38 in this thread, where I took closeup images of all my 1794 bulbs, and I believe shows evidence of manufacturer defects.

This is not intended to cast negative aspersions on Nite, FiveMega, or Carley (well maybe a bit on Carley). Rather this is a public safety warning when inserting/removing these bulbs.

This has never happened to me with any of the incan bulbs I have been dealing with over the last few years, including all those I intentionally overdrove in my destructive testing thread. I know almost all halogen bulbs are under various amounts of high pressure, but after working with at least 250-300 bulbs, I let my guard down, and it scared me because of what could have happened. I regard this as a Carley defect, and just "one of those things."

Anyway, I was holding with a Kleenex and inserting one of the new batch of CL-1794 bulbs that Nite is generously selling here into FM's D26 holder. The pins were perfectly aligned with FM's holder, and as I pushed down (not hard), I noticed a very tiny side piece of the glass stem split off to the outside when it was about 80% seated.

I set it sideways (bulb not touching) on corkboard, and turned over to my table behind me to get a magnifying lens. No more than 3 seconds after setting it down there was a loud POP explosion. It was about as loud as a ladyfinger firecracker, or capgun going off.

I felt pieces of the glass bulb hit me in the back, and back of my head about 3 feet away, so this was a significant amount of force. I was not injured in any way.

My concern for others of course is to make sure you ALWAYS WEAR EYE PROTECTION when inserting/removing these bulbs, as had I been facing or looking up close without eye protection, it would potentially have been a disaster. Here are two shots of the 'exploded' bulb. Interestingly, you can see the filament is still connected to the posts.
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fascinating to think the bulb wasn't powered on at the time of the explosion
 
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Yeah, the D-26 holder has to be removed and loaded outside of light. This was either over pressurized, or the crack from bottom fracture spread slowly. Thank God, because when I was inserting it, I was NOT wearing eye protection.
 
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Glad to hear you are ok!:eek:oo:

I'll be careful when handling these!

Now go put it in something and fire it up to finish it off!..:devil:
 
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Thanks for this advice, Lux - and I'm very glad to hear you are OK.

With their phenomenal performance for such a small size, these tiny bulbs must be right on the edge of what is possible, and I suppose we shouldn't be too surprised that the internal pressure is high.
 
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You lucky SOB! Thank God everything is ok. And thanks for letting us know about this potential hazard.

Cheers.
 
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It should be a safety warning with all high pressure incan bulbs. It seems like your bulb just so happens to have a defect in the envelope and enough pressure to blow the bulb apart.
 
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rarely, some of my customers have reported crushing, breaking, cracking bulbs, I have crushed one or two myself when not centered. I have chipped them as well during install. Its rare.

This is the first time i have heard of a damaged bulb then exploding on its on.:poof:

Where are my safety glasses?

glad your unhurt.

thats a one in a million fracture. small enuff to lead to catastrophic failure, but after 3 minutes!

should I post a warning?
 
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LuxLuthor- Glad to hear you were not blinded by the glass.

I did find it humorous that you noted the element was still intact and ready to rock... lol. An observation of a true flashaholic for sure..
 
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rarely, some of my customers have reported crushing, breaking, cracking bulbs, I have crushed one or two myself when not centered. I have chipped them as well during install. Its rare.
Honestly, I have had this happen with as many as 20-25 bulbs, sometimes a fairly large chunk of glass...especially if I'm not pressing exactly straight into holders (FM's G4, KIU holder, etc.).
This is the first time i have heard of a damaged bulb then exploding on its on.:poof:
That was the shock. I always knew all these small halogen incan bulbs are under pressure, but after using hundreds of them...testing to their destruction, etc., this was the first time one exploded.
but after 3 minutes!

should I post a warning?

It was after 3 seconds. I only turned over to table behind me started reaching for magnifying glass, and KAPOW!

On the possibility that these small 1794 bulbs may be under even more pressure (I don't know their design) than other halogens, I think it would be wise to post a warning for people to wear eye protection when inserting/removing them in first post. Most people will be looking at bulb up close to get tiny legs in tiny holes of FM's D26 holder.

Again, Nite, I know how conscientious you are, so please don't feel at all responsible for this. Like you say, this may be the only time this ever happens to anyone, so no need to overblow reactions.
 
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Glad to hear you wern't hurt and thanks for the warning Lux! The two 1794 bulbs i put in my FM D26 holder broke. I was unhappy because of what they cost, I would have been even more than unhappy if glass would have got into my eyes! From now on I will be wearing my safety glasses.
 
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A bold warning insisting on safety glasses was added to the thread the other day based on your experience.

Right above the paypal addy.

they cant miss it.

thanks.




glad your unhurt. :rolleyes:
 
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Sounds good, Nite. It may have just been one of those freak things...but in case it was under a higher pressure by design, hopefully it won't happen to anyone else. We forget about using eye protection though.
 
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The same happened, but the burning bulb was exposed to moisture and shock so I can only blame myself. The loud :poof: is scarier in real life.

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What potted bulb was that? It is a good reminder to always wear eye protection when doing funky things with bulbs.
 
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What potted bulb was that? It is a good reminder to always wear eye protection when doing funky things with bulbs.

1331, I got an urgent call of nature and brought my mag31 without a head on and while washing my hands I splashed some water and heard a sizzle and there was a loud scary pop. The only thing I could do is point the thing away from me. Thank God I still have 2 working eyes.
 
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So you went to the head without a head? :crackup:

Splashed water on it, yeah that would do it! :poof:
 
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OMG!!! Someone needs to do a bit of research here on CPF. JS, Lux Luther, Ginseng, others have all posted info re keeping the head on the light while running it.

Bill
 
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One of my new ones popped on me, too. I think I used a bit too much force when inserting it, but it definitely went "Pow!", and shattered. No harm to me, but one less 1794.
 
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