Solarforce L2P or Eagletac T20C2??

[dhouseng]

i spoiled my newly bought fenix tk12 R2. ($90 gone for no reason)

so i want to find a new light similar to the tk12 R2's size and uses 18650. should i get the solarforce L2p (upgradable) or the eagletac T20C2 (fixed for life) ?

what are the pros and cons? i have no experience with p60 type of lights. Does the modularity of the p60 means poorer heat dissipation or less solid (durable)?

also, why would people still buy non upgradable 18650 sized lights when LED technologies are evolving fast?

 

[ace0001a]

In my opinion, the Surefire C format is probably one of the most versatile around. The Solarforce L2 is one of many Surefire 6P clones out there and is fully thread compatible (with exception to the bezel ring) to Surefire C format flashlights like the 6P. Ultrafire, Spiderfire, Uniquefire...all the other damn China "fire" brands have clones as well as they cloned Hong Kong based Solarforce. It's kind of ironic that a clone gets cloned, so that's funny to think about. Anyway, the other Fire brands didn't keep their clones thread compatible for some reason and so the Solarforce L2 remains the best value and in my opinion, best quality 6P clone on the market. So if you get one, you'll open yourself up to the plethora of P60-type LED dropin modules on the market. For the most part, all the well known dropins are reliable and heat doesn't seem to be an issue. Now if you're talking about custom super high performance dropins, there are tricks that can be done to make better heat transfer from dropin module to the body of the flashlight, but it hasn't been an issue in general up until this point for most of the dropins available. And of course the most obvious is the ability to easily upgrade as technology progresses.

 

[Jimdo]

+ 1 for the Solarforce L2P (though I am a little bit biased)

 

[old4570]

Either way , though I do much prefer P60 hosts as they are very easily upgradeable , or if you just feel like trying something different ..

Whats wrong with the Fenix ? Not crushed or anything overly severe ....
It might not be beyond salvaging

 

[rookiedaddy]

so i want to find a new light similar to the tk12 R2's size and uses 18650. should i get the solarforce L2p (upgradable) or the eagletac T20C2 (fixed for life) ?

just want to point out that the newer EagleTac T20C2 MKII is not "fixed for life". It uses what EagleTac calls ET28 mount to support drop-in module for different output, with the intention to support future upgrades.

 

[dhouseng]

ok, now i am having a hard time finding fully regulated drop-ins. I've checked out nailbender's dropins but i dont think they are FULLY regulated. is there any high performance (300 OTF lumens or more) dropins which is fully regulated?

i want something like the fenix Tk12 R2, 2.5 hours of 240 OTF constant lumens.

 

[ace0001a]

ok, now i am having a hard time finding fully regulated drop-ins. I've checked out nailbender's dropins but i dont think they are FULLY regulated. is there any high performance (300 OTF lumens or more) dropins which is fully regulated?

i want something like the fenix Tk12 R2, 2.5 hours of 240 OTF constant lumens.

The Malkoff Devices dropins are arguably the best if not one of the best P60LED dropins on the market. The one drawback is that they are really hard to get.

http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m61-mod-to-fit-surefire-p-7.html

 

[jhc37013]

just want to point out that the newer EagleTac T20C2 MKII is not "fixed for life". It uses what EagleTac calls ET28 mount to support drop-in module for different output, with the intention to support future upgrades.

Glad you pointed that out to the OP and the Eagletac is already 300 lumen OTF and regulated with future Eagletac drop-ins supported.

 

[skyfire]

go with the L2P, and then look up malkoff or nailbender.

ive been thinking of a L2P with a SST-50 for my next light.

 

[gcbryan]

What is the advantage of buying the more expensive "best of the best" drop-in modules over a cheaper (and more available) module given that technology is changing so fast that whatever you buy you'll likely be upgrading that soon?

If you're going to be upgrading whatever you buy soon why worry about getting "the best"?

 

[ace0001a]

What is the advantage of buying the more expensive "best of the best" drop-in modules over a cheaper (and more available) module given that technology is changing so fast that whatever you buy you'll likely be upgrading that soon?

If you're going to be upgrading whatever you buy soon why worry about getting "the best"?

I guess in this case, the P60LED module is much like buying a car based on resale value is one good reason. Also, the Malkoff Devices M60/M61 have a unique design different from the common P60LED modules you see on the market. And last but not least, it is by far the best built module on the market. So you are definitely getting what you pay for here. I guess to the average flashlight enthusiast, the cheap $15 dropins can arguably have "comparable" performance and so if you're on a tight budget, those aren't a bad way to go either.

 

[dirtech]

Glad you pointed that out to the OP and the Eagletac is already 300 lumen OTF and regulated with future Eagletac drop-ins supported.

Does anyone have any idea how upgradable the pill itself is? That is doing emitter and/or driver swaps. That could be one advantage of the P60 format still if Eagletac pill/reflector assemblies are difficult to modify.

 

[Squidboy]

I'd be interested to know what happened to the tk12