I spoke to customer service at Surefire today and was informed they are now going to release the Invictus before the Optimus. They stated they received so many calls on the Invictus, they decided to release it in June. Has anyone else heard this? I was holding out for the Invictus. Looks like its going to be a shorter wait.
Surefire Invictus & Optimus - expectations
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Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
Well - I (and my wallet) hope you are right, but based on how I feel about these two lights, I think this would be a marketing blunder for SureFire, if true.
I am certainly more interested in the Invictus than I am the Optimus - but I had already figured in my own mind that I was likely to get one of each of these lights primarily because I'm interested enough in the Optimus so to purchase one, but mostly because I am really terrible at delaying gratification and I'd get the Optimus since I couldn't really hold out for the Invictus, and then I'd get the Invictus as well.
However - reversing the release of these lights does not create the same situation for me! If the Invictus comes out first, I suspect I'll get it and be content enough so that it's much less assured that I'll end up with an Optimus, as well.
But of course, that's just me. I suspect SureFire could release these lights in either order and it would not impact sales much.
Well - I (and my wallet) hope you are right, but based on how I feel about these two lights, I think this would be a marketing blunder for SureFire, if true.
I am certainly more interested in the Invictus than I am the Optimus - but I had already figured in my own mind that I was likely to get one of each of these lights primarily because I'm interested enough in the Optimus so to purchase one, but mostly because I am really terrible at delaying gratification and I'd get the Optimus since I couldn't really hold out for the Invictus, and then I'd get the Invictus as well.
However - reversing the release of these lights does not create the same situation for me! If the Invictus comes out first, I suspect I'll get it and be content enough so that it's much less assured that I'll end up with an Optimus, as well.
But of course, that's just me. I suspect SureFire could release these lights in either order and it would not impact sales much.
yaesumofo
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Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
If true IMHO this is too bad. I was looking forward to the optimus.
I was really looking for the ability to adjust the beam from wide to tight. I love the ability to have 2 beams in my new McGizmo Lunasol. The OPtimus takes this concept to the bleeding edge. Personally I am not positive that the difference between 200 and 400 lumens is worth giving up the ability to adjust/focus the beam.
there are 11 settings between low to high. so in reality the invictus just adds one brightness level to the optimus and removes the ability to focus.
The UA2 IMHO is the most high tech flashlight in the pipeline today. with the invictus running a close second.
Both lights are too big for my style of EDC but one of the UA2 OPTIMUS WILL BECOME A REGULAR FIXTURE INSIDE MY BAILOUT BAG. (Current light in bailout bag is a elektrolumens blaster Nice light great runtime)
I will be waiting for the UA2 before succoming to the temptation to buy the INVICTUS. I just don't feel like I need that much power.... Call me crazy.
Yaesumofo
If true IMHO this is too bad. I was looking forward to the optimus.
I was really looking for the ability to adjust the beam from wide to tight. I love the ability to have 2 beams in my new McGizmo Lunasol. The OPtimus takes this concept to the bleeding edge. Personally I am not positive that the difference between 200 and 400 lumens is worth giving up the ability to adjust/focus the beam.
there are 11 settings between low to high. so in reality the invictus just adds one brightness level to the optimus and removes the ability to focus.
The UA2 IMHO is the most high tech flashlight in the pipeline today. with the invictus running a close second.
Both lights are too big for my style of EDC but one of the UA2 OPTIMUS WILL BECOME A REGULAR FIXTURE INSIDE MY BAILOUT BAG. (Current light in bailout bag is a elektrolumens blaster Nice light great runtime)
I will be waiting for the UA2 before succoming to the temptation to buy the INVICTUS. I just don't feel like I need that much power.... Call me crazy.
Yaesumofo
Gladius01
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Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
I hope it is June, Just can't wait to get Invictus.
I hope it is June, Just can't wait to get Invictus.
Lightguy27
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Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
Does'nt really matter to me, I was going to get both anyway and with summer travel I appreciate the extra light.
-Evan
Does'nt really matter to me, I was going to get both anyway and with summer travel I appreciate the extra light.
-Evan
Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
I also thought it was odd from a marketing standpoint. I thought they were releasing the Optimus first then the Invictus because a lot of people would want to see what another 200 lumens will deliver and purchase the Invictus. Even thought I did not preorder a Optimus I immediately thought wow those people are not going to be happy. From what they were saying it sounds like the difference of a couple of months with both out by September. Lets see 1 Invictus, 1 E2DL and 1 Arc6. It looks like an expensive summer.
I also thought it was odd from a marketing standpoint. I thought they were releasing the Optimus first then the Invictus because a lot of people would want to see what another 200 lumens will deliver and purchase the Invictus. Even thought I did not preorder a Optimus I immediately thought wow those people are not going to be happy. From what they were saying it sounds like the difference of a couple of months with both out by September. Lets see 1 Invictus, 1 E2DL and 1 Arc6. It looks like an expensive summer.
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Interesting. The order doesn't seem to make too much sense, but oh well. I was actually looking forward to the Optimus more than the Invictus. The optimus is $279, I wonder how much the Invictus is going to be.
Interesting. The order doesn't seem to make too much sense, but oh well. I was actually looking forward to the Optimus more than the Invictus. The optimus is $279, I wonder how much the Invictus is going to be.
Tempest UK
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
Oops...
:devil:
Regards,
Tempest
Oops...
:devil:
Regards,
Tempest
Size15's
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tazambo
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Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
This is something that needs to be officially confirmed or not, as the case may be.
I've just ordered a E2DL, and will happily wait to have it shipped with a UB2 in June/July to save on postage.
I need to know......
Dave
This is something that needs to be officially confirmed or not, as the case may be.
I've just ordered a E2DL, and will happily wait to have it shipped with a UB2 in June/July to save on postage.
I need to know......
Dave
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WildChild
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Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
If it's true, I'm a happy camper because I was waiting for the Invictus!
If it's true, I'm a happy camper because I was waiting for the Invictus!
Force Attuned
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Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
I would have thought if this was the case that Surefire would have released pricing details in the Invictus...any word yet??
I would have thought if this was the case that Surefire would have released pricing details in the Invictus...any word yet??
Size15's
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Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
I don't recall the UA2 having a release date.
(which is why I found it strange that CPF and certain dealers seemed to expect it to be released as early as this summer)
Is that the release date purported on CPF and by SureFire Dealers on CPF?
I don't recall the UA2 having a release date.
(which is why I found it strange that CPF and certain dealers seemed to expect it to be released as early as this summer)
Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
I wonder if the run time will be better on one than the other at 200 lumen. I hope the Invictus isn`t a batt hog...as the 400 lumen light will be my pick as opposed to the 200 lumen focus.
I hope the price of the Invictus is no more than the Optimus. Should be about the same cost to make as it leaves out the veri-beam technology and I don`t think the bulbs are much differant in cost.
I wonder if the run time will be better on one than the other at 200 lumen. I hope the Invictus isn`t a batt hog...as the 400 lumen light will be my pick as opposed to the 200 lumen focus.
I hope the price of the Invictus is no more than the Optimus. Should be about the same cost to make as it leaves out the veri-beam technology and I don`t think the bulbs are much differant in cost.
Tempest UK
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
Aren't the release dates a few of the dealers are offering provided to them by SureFire? At least that's the impression I got. Not that that makes them set in stone at this point, of course...
Regards,
Tempest
Aren't the release dates a few of the dealers are offering provided to them by SureFire? At least that's the impression I got. Not that that makes them set in stone at this point, of course...
Regards,
Tempest
Size15's
Flashaholic
Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
I don't know - something must have been very confused along the way because I was never given the impression the UA2 would be released before the UB2.
Tempest UK
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Surefire Invictus & Optimus Breaking News!
Ah well, as long as they get here. It's not as if I'm in desperate need of one until they arrive
Regards,
Tempest
Ah well, as long as they get here. It's not as if I'm in desperate need of one until they arrive
Regards,
Tempest
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