The Official Malkoff Junkie thread - Part 2

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Greenbean

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I like the Camo a lot more than I thought I would, it looks great!

I picked up a couple of the new M361's. One cool white and one neutral. I can't wait to test them out tonight. Just playing around with them, I can already tell that the mode spacing is great.

S1LVA

That may be my next purchase, after the MD3s come back in stock....
 

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Do I still count as a junkie with this lineup?

M30WF
M31N
M60W MC-E
M61N
M61W
M91W
Hound Dog (Neutral)
Wildcat (Neutral)

M361N en route

All neutral or warm with clean beams....
 

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Let me see:
M60
M61W
M61WL
M61WLL
M61SHO 219
M61 219
M61 219
M31 219
M361N just in :twothumbs
Hound Dog Neutral
Wildcat Neutral

Waiting for whatever neutral coming.....
 

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Yes, low first is definitely the way to go with a non tactical drop-in. Also, and I don't know if someone has already asked the question but what happens if you use the LMH drop-in in an MD2 with a High/Low Ring? Do you get 6 Modes? Or does the driver interpret the reduction in current as a dead battery and it just doesn't come on?

Okay. No one could answer this question for me so I did the CPF thing and bought one so I could test it myself :devil:

Here are the results for all three modes with the head tight and loose using a two stage ring: (Please not these were not ceiling bounce measurements but rather measured at the center of the hot spot at 1 meter so this may actually represent peak intensity better than overall output)


Mode
High
Lux (Tight)
5200
% of Max
100.00%
Lux (Loose)
83.1
% of Max
1.60%
Med107020.58%18.90.36%
Low2104.04%5.60.11%

So it actually does give you 6 modes. A High, Med, and Low, and then low low, low low low, and low low low low.

I got curious about whether the modes would work at all after the light dropped out of regulation so I tried it on a single CR123 reading 3.01 volts. Here are the results:

Mode
High (CR123)
Lux (Tight)
1330
% of Max
25.58%
Lux (Loose)
16
% of Max
0.31%
Med (CR123)2605.00%160.31%
Low (CR123)500.96%160.31%


So you do get modes when the head is tight, but you only get one output with the head loose.

Also, to give you an idea what to compare these lux numbers to, here are some other lights I did with the same setup at the same time:


Light
M61 SHO
Lux (High)
5900
%of Max
113.46%
M61 (XP-G2)430082.69%
M61N (XP-G2)310059.62%
MDC420080.77%


The M361 is advertised as 400 lumens and the SHO is advertised at 385 but the SHO is measuring a little over 13% brighter so (assuming they're both using the same reflector and LED) something's wrong. But, it does perform measurably better than the M61 XP-G2 (about 18%) and it appears to be optimized for a single Li Ion so that's awesome.

One more comment on the modes. As others have mentioned, it's not, strictly speaking, a LMH. It doesn't always come on in low. In fact, it only comes on in low if the last time you used the light you let it burn more than 5 seconds on whatever mode you were using. If you had it on for less than 5 seconds, it will come on in the next higher mode than whatever it was when you turned it off. Also, if you try to change modes too quickly by just light pressing the switch rapidly, it won't change modes. You have to wait just a fraction of a second after soft pressing the switch to press it again if you want to progress through the modes. You have to be pretty quick to trick it, but it happened to me a few times.

Hope this all helps!

-G
 
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Hey there Junkies - can some of you guys with M30 & M60 modules in your collection post if they use the EZ900 die or the larger EZ1000 die?

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EZ900 on right
 

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My new favorite light! Md2 M361N w/ high/low ring anyone that wants a moonlight mode on your malkoff, this is it. It's not quite firefly mode but is low enough to look at the emitter, maybe a 1/2 to 1 lumen on the lowest mode.

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@ Norm, hey try using a hi/low ring with your triple. It does lower the low but still not a moonlight mode.
 

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@ Norm, hey try using a hi/low ring with your triple. It does lower the low but still not a moonlight mode.

I use two AA Eneloops with a M31 219 and a MD 3 body as my bedside light and that gives me moonlight when I move around the house at night.

AS the triple is already three speed HML, I'm using the standard aluminium ring enlarged slightly to fit the triple.

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First pic shows the module fitted, next how the ring now fits the module, next you can see how the lager diameter has been Dremeled slightly leaving the lip untouched.

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Showing how the head sits up a little compared to a Malkoff drop in (still plenty of O ring coverage), and the bezel fitted with a SolarForce lens that was ground down to fit, still using a Malkoff gasket. The aperture has been enlarged using a tapered ream.


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Nice job on the triple. I know your a 219 man, what about a mule version. Drop in is the awesome work of S1lva.

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Very cool to see how the Silva Mule fits in there! Is that with no other modifications? Do the ring and head fit on flush? Any significant difference from an M61?

I've got a Ti VME and a M361N on the way. Looking to match them up with my Fivemega SS 18650 body.
 

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No mod needed for the mule, it fit right in. It does have to have a larger lense to seal enough to be waterproof. It's best used with the standard ring, the resistor on the hi/low ring touches the body of the drop in which doesn't allow the resistor to function. It could be made to work though. You'll like the M361, very nice!
 

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I finished a couple of runtime tests on the M361N and posted them up as part of my review.


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The M361N ran for about 102 minutes before dropping out of regulation. I ended the test after another hour (not shown on chart) and it was still putting out enough light to walk in the dark (probably 3-4 lumens).

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On medium mode, it ran for about 8.5 hours before dropping out of regulation. After that, it began a loooong taper down to that 3 or 4 lumen level. I got tired of watching it, so I ended the test at 11 hours and it was still producing light.

There is no way I have the patience to try a test on low. I actually want to use the light some :devil:

I also did a quick comparison of the various output levels when used with an MD2 equipped with the High/Low bezel switch, just as GeoBruin did and are results are pretty much the same. I'm calling the levels High, Medium, Low, Low-low, Low-low-low, and Low-low-low-low. Overall, the spacing between levels is pretty good, running at about a 5:1 ratio which matches what Gene posted for the drive currents. The only exception is Low and Low-low are a little bit closer than that.

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I haven't had time for any beamshots yet. I'm planning on getting a round finished this weekend with the M361N, the new MDC Li-Ion head, and the E2DL Ultra. I'll post 'em up when I get them.
 
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Got my Malkoff E2 today. Gene freaking nailed it. As a bonus, it fits E series filters as well!

Props to Cathy for being a good sport :)

 
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