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So no talk about the switch . Is it a clicky? no mention of how this was made more reliable. To me this is the weakest point in a flashlight and mhy the PD system appealed to me. Do these incorporate a cheap standard Chinese type clicky? The only switch in the clicky format I trust to any extent is the McGizmo Mclicky
 
cave dave said:
But all in all I'm not a huge fan of Fenix type UI, so will pass on these Quarks.
If you want to go from High to Med you need to either scroll through SOS, Beacon, Moonlight and Low, or turn the light off for 3 seconds then back on at Moonlight and scroll through Low to get to Med.
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I'm with you, I've pretty much sworn off Fenix due to the consistently unacceptable UIs (to me, obviously others like them), which are reproduced in the Quarks. But, the Quarks have models that come with a "tactical interface", which is much more to my liking. It's essentially a two-mode light, and both modes are programmable -- head loose is one mode, head tight is the other. The sequence to program each mode is unnecessarily complex, but presumeably you won't do this very often. The tacticals also have a forward clicky instead of reverse. I'm a little bummed at how unnecessarily cumbersome the programming sequence sounds, but it may be good enough.
 
Joe Talmadge said:
The sequence to program each mode is unnecessarily complex, but presumeably you won't do this very often.
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The programming sequence must be complex enough, that you do not activate it by accident. I believe that it is very easy to use and the risk of accidental activation is low enough.
 
Joe Talmadge said:
I'm with you, I've pretty much sworn off Fenix due to the consistently unacceptable UIs (to me, obviously others like them), which are reproduced in the Quarks. But, the Quarks have models that come with a "tactical interface", which is much more to my liking. It's essentially a two-mode light, and both modes are programmable -- head loose is one mode, head tight is the other. The sequence to program each mode is unnecessarily complex, but presumeably you won't do this very often. The tacticals also have a forward clicky instead of reverse. I'm a little bummed at how unnecessarily cumbersome the programming sequence sounds, but it may be good enough.
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Anybody heard more specifics about the tacticals?

How about an ETA?

Thanks,
 
HKJ said:
The programming sequence must be complex enough, that you do not activate it by accident. I believe that it is very easy to use and the risk of accidental activation is low enough.
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I realize that, and was taking that into account in my opinion; more complex than it needs to be, even taking into account that it shouldn't activate by accident. In any case, the UI is heavily dependent on how people use the light, so opinions will vary obviously enough. I suppose after I get it in hand I might end up thinking it's just right.
 
wapkil said:
The UI description for regular version is here.

EDIT: note that this is for two CR123s so the runtimes (and lumens on Max) will be different for other configurations
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You know, that just look like the classic fenix UI with a couple more modes, not really anything special. :shrug:

Also I think start the light on 0.2 lumen may be too low for most use. Low low is nice to have but I wouldn't want to start on it or max everytime.
 
jzmtl said:
You know, that just look like the classic fenix UI with a couple more modes, not really anything special. :shrug:

Also I think start the light on 0.2 lumen may be too low for most use. Low low is nice to have but I wouldn't want to start on it or max everytime.
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That's also what bothered me - I didn't like the regular UI and two easily accessible modes in tactical are not enough for me. The good news is that David just wrote in the market place thread that they can offer a revised UI, with blinky modes moved to the tightened bezel group as many, including me, proposed :)
 
I went to the Blade Show in Atlanta Friday, and got to play with the Quarks at the 4sevens booth. They had both an AA and a 123. They seem to have good fit and finish, with a substantial feel in the hand. Both had R2 emitters. They were similar in color and feel to the Nitecore, only with a clicky rather than piston switch. Everybody at the booth was very helpful and friendly.
In contrast, the Surefire booth, which was only a few yards away, did not have any of their new four die lights that I saw, only a very slick catalog describing them. They had only a portion of their consumer level product line to play with.
My impression of the Quark was favorable overall, but I really didn't play with them enough to get a feel for the UI.
 
cave dave said:
But all in all I'm not a huge fan of Fenix type UI, so will pass on these Quarks.
If you want to go from High to Med you need to either scroll through SOS, Beacon, Moonlight and Low, or turn the light off for 3 seconds then back on at Moonlight and scroll through Low to get to Med.
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This very reason also gives me hesitation on the quark. I might stick to my trusty solid D10, for its' reliable switch and a little more compact form.
 
OK, I'm mistaken then. I thought if you were in high, and wanted to go to med, all you had to do was loosen the head (which would put you in moon mode) and then give the tail switch 2 half clicks to go up to medium.

My mistake.
 
IMO, the UI should be like this:

4 programmable modes - Two for a tightened head, two for loosened. Switch between the two in each tightened/loosened mode by a quick tap on the clicky.

If I had a light like that, I'd have it set up like the following:

Loosened:
low (~5 lumens) -> high (~100 lumens on a ~190 lumen 2xCR123a light)

Tightened:
Max -> some sort of strobe / beacon

That'd be just about perfect for me.
 
wapkil said:
That's also what bothered me - I didn't like the regular UI and two easily accessible modes in tactical are not enough for me. The good news is that David just wrote in the market place thread that they can offer a revised UI, with blinky modes moved to the tightened bezel group as many, including me, proposed :)
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Hmm, that might be good. The only thing about my Fenix that I didn`t care for was that the head was somewhat tough to tighten/loosen. The Quarks sound much better. Knurling on the head and smooth operating square threads.

I agree with those who commented that the .02 lumen low sounds...well, really really low. But, weee shall see. Or maybe not :green: LOL.
 
.02 sounds really low until your eyes are dark adapted. Then it's a great level of light. You can see everything well indoors and not get any eye strain. Now outside with any ambient lighting going on then sure you might want to bump it up a notch so you can see more.

OH I know I can't explain it right or convince anyone but if you get this light and try the .02 out you'll see it's pretty nice. Now if you just walked inside during the daytime and you use .02 to look for something in the floor of a closet you might not get much benefit from it. :D
 
Just noticed something, how come 123a version doesn't have removable/reversable clip while the other three do? :confused:

Sgt. LED said:
.02 sounds really low until your eyes are dark adapted. Then it's a great level of light. You can see everything well indoors and not get any eye strain. Now outside with any ambient lighting going on then sure you might want to bump it up a notch so you can see more.
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It is, but I bet 95% of the time people use flashlight it's way too dim, so having to bump it up everytime is kinda a pain.
 
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DAMN!!! I'm now somewhat regretting my P100A2 purchase. My 2 wishes for it are the Eagletac clip I bought, which doesn't work too well with the A2 and I'd love a neutral tint. What kind of beam is this going to have? I also LOVE that blue tailcap switch.
 
Badbeams3 said:
The dark is the antiquark.
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Now that would be an interesting invention...a device that removes light from wherever its pointed! :ooo:

Just imagine...it's a bright sunny day, it's very hot and you want some shade. You simply turn on your flashlight sized device and set it on a table, or chair pointed toward where you're sitting. Instant shade! :thumbsup:
 
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