What can out throw a SF M3T for less $$ and about the same size?

[GarageBoy]

I like my C3T and all, but after $200, the only thing going for it is the size. Anything similar that'll smoke it in the throw dept?

 

[search_and_rescue]

My best guess is the Princeton Tec Surge at $27.00. Another one is 6D Maglite at $25.00.

Unfortunately, the Surge may only be equal or even slightly less throwy than the M3T on fresh batteries, and the 6D Mag is much bigger in size, though I believe the throw is significantly further than the M3T. Also beam hotspot quality can't compare.

 

[glockboy]

Try Streamlight TL3.

 

[GarageBoy]

I'm thinking of ROP, but how to minimize bulk?

 

[Mikeg23]

I'm thinking of ROP, but how to minimize bulk?

I think the ROP-LE with the low output Big D bulb is supposed to be comparable to the M4 with a high output bulb. Then your throw will be determined by which reflector you use.

I have a ROP-LE and with the mirror reflector it throws very well. I can only imagine what the high output Big D bulb looks like.

 

[mdocod]

ROP high with a LOP in a 2C using a pair of AWs up and coming C size li-ions. not much bigger, but a LOT brighter.. cost would be around the ~$100 region all said and done...

another option is doing the mod that plasmaman describes in post number 8 over here
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=149830
should outdo the M3T in throw using sheer overpowering lumen's. Price wouldn't be too bad eithor.

 

[FAAbUlights]

The Streamlight Ultra Stinger is a little longer and heavier, a lot cheaper, and is rechargeable. This light definately outthrows my M3T even with the MN16 installed. I love using this light in the back yard or at my friends farm. It does very good at work in high ambient light to inspect the wings and tails of 767's and such. Farthest throwing stock light I own....maybe not after I get my M6 but we'll see. For the money you cant go wrong with the Ultra Stinger.

 

[Size15's]

I guess it depends on what GarageBoy means by "about the same size".
In my opinion that means similar in length, bulk and weight.

Both the TigerLight 8" and UltraStinger have a longer-throwing beam compared to the M3T, but the TigerLight is too bulky and heavy compared to the M3T, and the UltraStinger is too long and too heavy compared to the M3T.
My PrincetonTek Surge doesn't come close to beating my M3T's for throw.



Of course SureFire's aim is not for the furthest throwing light - the beams are designed to be ideal for the uses they are most often put to, not that this is important here.

I would suggest it is possible to go wrong with the UltraStinger - I most certainly have. When I purchased them the US and TL were similar in price. I can't think of an application for which I'd suggest an UltraStinger over a TigerLight 8".

Al

 

[GarageBoy]

So Al, at what range is the SF KT2/MN15 most ideal for?
I'm also not that happy that the head scratched itself on the C3 body's clip..

 

[Size15's]

So Al, at what range is the SF KT2/MN15 most ideal for?
I'm also not that happy that the head scratched itself on the C3 body's clip..

I understand that Operators use the M3T (and the WeaponLight versions) on carbines/rifles in urban/suburban 'street'/industrial type environments.

Regarding you scratching up the TurboHead adapter collar on the C3's PocketClip; I've been in that situation but realised it would happen before I screwed it on too tight (in my case it was an M2 bezel on a C2 body) and was able to seat the PocketClip further down with a bit of physical persuasion...

Al

 

[GarageBoy]

There was still another full turn before the head seated fully. I yanked off the clip and its safe now. How hard would it be to put it back on?

 

[CLHC]

What about unobtainium FM.Fat.Mag—I think? Don't know about the pricing though. . .

 

[Art Vandelay]

What is the lux at one meter for a SF M3T? Thanks.

 

[Brighteyez]

Have to agree with Glockboy, the SL TL-3 is in the same class, same size, and will most likely outperform the M3 series in throw at less than half the price.

Had a friend visting and he seemed a little disappointed when he compared it against a Stinger. Even more so when he found out that a Stinger is about $60 these days compared to the $250 that he paid for his M3.

I like my C3T and all, but after $200, the only thing going for it is the size. Anything similar that'll smoke it in the throw dept?

 

[Size15's]

The M3 and M3T are very different animals.

 

[Brighteyez]

Yes, I'm aware of that. There's also a bit of a price difference between the two as well.

The M3 and M3T are very different animals.

 

[FAAbUlights]

Yes it would depend on the interpretation of "about the same size." Trying to at least stay with similar body diameter and head size was why I recomend the Ultra Stinger and not a D sized body tube such as the Tigerlight. There's less bulk.

 

[mdocod]

the TL-3 has good throw... but If I already had a M3T, I can not see any logical reason to consider the TL-3 to be a nice "step-up" in performance... LOLA for the M3T will have throw in the same ballpark as the TL-3, and the HOLA will totally blow it away in both overall output and throw.

 

[GarageBoy]

Wait, I thought HOLAs don't improve throw (as with the P60/61)

 

[Strauss]

Does anyone know how a TL-3 with the H1499 bulb and 17500's compares with Surefire's M3 and M3T?