Canada to go to all zero emission passenger vehicles by 2035

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Hertz selling 20,000 EVs from fleet, to reinvest in gas-powered vehicles.
 

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If you go by current rates, 50% EV sales by 2025 and 70% by 2027. The change will happen quicker than planned. Prices will drop radically. 4 million cheap Teslas and Chinese imports will cause Toyota, GM, Ford and many other auto makers to go bankrupt. Everyone's going to be like rats escaping a sinking ship. ICE cars will be stranded assets. Worthless and too expensive to run. VW will move all manufacturing to China. People already are starting to understand solar and batteries means energy independence. Electric efficiency is what makes this possible. People want to save money and have convenience. Electric anything is durable and reliable. When was the last time you took your washer in for a tuneup? The big oil and auto paradigm is coming to an end.
Sure thing, lol, by 2036 even showers, and chairs will be electric. :crackup:
 

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Hertz selling 20,000 EVs from fleet, to reinvest in gas-powered vehicles.
You could save $10k on a model Y plus incentives. I could have paid cash and no loan. But we could use the tax break.
 

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You could save $10k on a model Y plus incentives. I could have paid cash and no loan. But we could use the tax break.

Zero emissions my foot -- they're just shifting the exhaust from the tailpipe to the powerplant's smoke stack.

Most EVs are charged at night when wind and solar power are nil. Pumped storage is a joke. 1x 55 gallon drum of water has about as much potential energy as an AA battery. It's coal, oil, gas that really powers the EVs unless you're near hydro, and hydro has its own environmental impact.

Then there's the issue of the electrical grids and power plants. 2035 is ~10 years away. It takes at least 10 years to get the permitting to actually build a plant. In my area, no new plants are scheduled to be built. Then you have to upgrade the grid and that infrastructure as well. More amps = more wires and thicker wires needed. Larger transformers needed, etc.

While there's a place for EVs, they're not the holy grail they're touted as being.

I spent close to a year doing detailed research before buying my current car. Ultimately, buying my luxo-barge gas-powered car was FAR more environmentally-friendly than EVs would have been, cradle-to-grave, including the fuel it used. The real irony was having the US' own EPA tell me I couldn't get the car with a powertrain that got a legitimate 85MPG (not eMPG, real MPG) and insisted I get one with 28MPG, and the bureaucrat told me with a straight face that 28MPG was better(!) for the environment.
I charge my EV during sunlight. Have solar. Paid $550 for one year of energy, housing and transportation. Will get batteries to reduce further. Would like to go off grid. But not allowed.
 

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I charge my EV during sunlight. Have solar. Paid $550 for one year of energy, housing and transportation. Will get batteries to reduce further. Would like to go off grid. But not allowed.
All that investment in solar...what will happen when there is a big volcanic eruption, and ash is blown up high into the atmosphere, and we have a nuclear winter--i.e. no sunlight for solar cells? Huddle over your batteries? Short-circuit them to warm yourself as they burn? Yes, Black Swan events do happen. I'm not predicting this, but it is very possible, there is precedent for years that did not have a summer.
 

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If you go by current rates, 50% EV sales by 2025 and 70% by 2027. The change will happen quicker than planned. Prices will drop radically. 4 million cheap Teslas and Chinese imports will cause Toyota, GM, Ford and many other auto makers to go bankrupt. Everyone's going to be like rats escaping a sinking ship. ICE cars will be stranded assets. Worthless and too expensive to run. VW will move all manufacturing to China. People already are starting to understand solar and batteries means energy independence. Electric efficiency is what makes this possible. People want to save money and have convenience. Electric anything is durable and reliable. When was the last time you took your washer in for a tuneup? The big oil and auto paradigm is coming to an end.
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Even without black swan events. it is just not sustainable without massive gvmnt tax dollar injections. Nor the tech is ready, manufacturers finding that out now the hard way, they can't sell them nearly as much as they hoped, fleets getting rid of them, cuz they turn out more troubles than they worth. Yes there is market for them, but it is not nearly as big as they thought it would be, and mandating it is really a crime.
 

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It's not a joke, that is my reality. I spent "literally" $550.00 for one year of energy. How much did you spend on poisonous fossil fuel, to run your household and vehicles?
I spent a lot. And don't mind it one bit. Nope, not one bit. Probably do my part to increase my carbon footprint even more this year. But at least my city don't have turd maps and rampant crime because our air is so polluted all the bad folks and bums are flocking to San Fransisco.
 

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I spent a lot. And don't mind it one bit. Nope, not one bit. Probably do my part to increase my carbon footprint even more this year. But at least my city don't have turd maps and rampant crime because our air is so polluted all the bad folks and bums are flocking to San Francisco.
Oh, you are that ******* from Flushing. Where your comments need to go. What does where I live have anything to do with the comments I make. Saving money is no joke. I do what I do because I want to save money and not poison EVeryone around me with my inefficient waste. You're like the guy who eats beans and doesn't have the courtesy to walk outside to fart.
 

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It's not a joke, that is my reality. I spent "literally" $550.00 for one year of energy. How much did you spend on poisonous fossil fuel, to run your household and vehicles?
No it is really funny, as you probably noticed no one cares how much you save, and as you probably guessed not everyone believes what you say either. You seem to be unable to comprehend that tasty cake comes out of the other end as smelling poo. I'm not referring to crap on your city street, i'm referring to a damaging lifestyle you lead and support, while completely oblivious to what comes out on the other end. You are absolutely in no position to tell anyone their cars are inefficient waste, while you completely ignore your own. it is like taking a dump, not wiping, and be proud of how good you are, ignoring the skid marks you leave everytime you sit somewhere, figuratively speaking of course.
BTW flushing queens is much cleaner than SF, and safer too. have you ever been there?
 
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